BattleBots 2015 Discussion

[Shield]

Episode thoughts

-Bronco vs Tombstone wooooooooooooooooooow that was epic. too bad that last hit did that stuff tho
-ghost raptor vs bite force was... eh tbh.
-Nightmare's disc seemed waaaaaay slower and less hard hitting in the rumble.
-congrats to Bite Force. Though I was really really hoping Tombstone would win.
-Does anyone have any idea how well the show did in terms of ratings and viewers? could be an indicator if Season 2 will be a thing

EDIT: agree with joe 100%

[Jonzu95]

Goddammit I hate these commercials. There's too much and they're like 100% more annoying than here in Finland

So we do have another finn here after a long time...

[Natef]

THIS IS IT

Did this statement really need a spoiler?

Sorry I was trying to be careful with spoilers and I guess I got a bit carried away.

[Resetti's Replicas]

I know I'm going to sound salty, byt I didn't like Bite Force's "tactics" of skirting the active weapon requirement. I understand that it was what they needed to do three times to get a W, but if everyone starts pulling that "psych, it's actually a wedge!" trick, then we might not be as guaranteed a next season.  There have to be certain concessions in place for the sake of making good TV.  There'll always be a place for nets and wedges at the live circuit. 

. That said, I'm overjoyed at the revival, and will continue doing everything I can to help them get a season 2.

[Jonzu95]

Also I may get lynched for saying this but I actually like the Ghost Raptor guy and he seems cool.

[Probably Rob]

I've got nothing against him, either

[yugitom]

Also I may get lynched for saying this but I actually like the Ghost Raptor guy and he seems cool.

I've got nothing against him, either

Yeah, same here.

[Natef]

I like all of the builders. There's nothing about any of them that makes them worth hating.

[Philippa]

Also I may get lynched for saying this but I actually like the Ghost Raptor guy and he seems cool.

I've got nothing against him, either

Yeah, same here.

Me too.

I agree with Joe as well.

[Resetti's Replicas]

In addition to the Giant Nut, there were two special awards, the Giant Screws, and theu actually thread with the Giant Nut!  The two awards were:

Most Destructive, chosen by the judges and awarded to:

Tombstone

, and the Best Design, voted on by the builders, and awarded to

Warhead

[Cody Furlong]

I have to say that the final fights went mostly as expected, except for the final, I was hoping for the other bot to win. He probably would have if his weapon didn't stop working part way through. He shouldn't have gone for that last hit in the previous fight, it really messed him up.

[Urjak]

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly don't think competitors should be allowed to modify their robots in order to counter a particular opponent. The last straw for me came when Ghost Raptor put on their "de-icer", a weapon that could only ever be effective against Icewave, and that would have almost certainly lost them a match against any other robot. Biteforce's use of the massive steel plow was another low point for me, as it basically transformed them from a lifter/clamp into a pure wedge, just because they knew that the lifter would be ripped apart by strong spinners. It behaved like a different bot, which brings me to my next point.

Why couldn't a competitor just bring two separate bots, and then choose to fight with the one most effective against their opponent? How is that really any different than what is happening already? And if the two-bot strategy is unacceptable, where do we draw the line? If I keep the frame but replace all of the interior and exterior parts—including the weapon and drive—is it still the same robot? How about if I keep some of the components but change the frame? I say that an entrant should be required to keep their robot the same between matches, barring irreparable damage to a particular component, in which case the team would be expected to mirror the original as much as possible in their repairs.

[Probably Rob]

To be fair to Raptor, though, the blade had been ripped off. How would they have used that de-icer with the blade? Unless taking off the blade would've been THAT easy? I'd say quick and intelligent thinking, if I'm right

[Philippa]

Yeah, but they should have tried to fix the bar first. Because they didn't do that they changed to a lifter which it kinda was able to be anyway, but I do agree that the De-Icer was pretty cheap. Interchangeable weapons should be declared before an event at least.

Also:

[Natef]

I've used attachments like what Ghost Raptor and Bite Force used to my advantage, and I think it's 100% fine. Unless it goes against the rules (like entanglement weapons), or is over the weight limit, it should be allowed.

[Urjak]

I've used attachments like what Ghost Raptor and Bite Force used to my advantage, and I think it's 100% fine. Unless it goes against the rules (like entanglement weapons), or is over the weight limit, it should be allowed.

So do you believe that people should be allowed to enter one robot, but also bring along a different one, and then choose which to use in a fight? And if not, why?

[Reier]

no because there's a difference between adding a small attachment and bringing 2 entire robots

[Urjak]

no because there's a difference between adding a small attachment and bringing 2 entire robots

What qualifies as a "small attachment"?

[Reier]

dude how many attachments could you possibly bring

[russian roulette]

I'd say that if a weapon is interchangeable, it'd have to be some that doesn't completely change the robot into a ball of safety. A good example would be Tornado's anti Razer frame of cheapness which had 360 degrees of safety. Ghost Raptor still had vulnerable spots and couldn't drive correctly if the "de-icer" was always engaged. As for BiteForce, there were also many vulnerable spots on it and Tombstone should have done more strategic driving and weapon activation.