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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 06:38:41 AM »
If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

Yes and No.

Yes, they are programs because of that and being executed by the computer, but no, not all viruses need other files in order to work, most of them just use that in order to be downloaded onto a computer without being seen, and to be disguised. Like a soldier wearing camo. Isn't particularly needed, and can still be a soldier with camo, but usually helps.
Question is, why do you think virus was the term given to it? If you look into most viruses, in order to become resident, they need to attach themselves to a file, just like a normal virus needs to attach itself to a cell in order to become resident. Some viruses, like Creeper, create their own program, but quite a lot of them just infect other files

If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3


Anyway...

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ambulance virus, attaches itself to .COM files, and runs a visual of an ambulance crashing each time they are run. it is designed to work on DOS.
Correctamunto. Ambulance, like ChristmasEXEC, is a pretty harmless virus, and a rather amusing one too

Does anyone have a virus that I can give to my friend for a laugh? Not something that will damage his computer, just something that will scare him, the go away after a reboot.
What system does he use? I might be able to get you a strain of Adolph or something, but if you're wanting something obvious but harmless, I have no idea without making or modifying one

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM »
If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3


Anyway...


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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 06:09:06 AM »
I'm meaning computer program as in application. You know, .exe files and the like. Those are program files. Viruses aren't programs in that sense

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 05:53:17 AM »
A virus can be downloaded into your computer's memory via an infected file. That is the only way, unless you create it yourself. It may create or infect programs and files, but it in itself is just code

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8A9USuyOU&feature=related#

discuss
Finally. This virus is hilarious

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 04:58:31 AM »
They execute viruses via an infected program or file

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 04:53:21 AM »
Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands

Oh, and for reference, I will almost always refer to a virus as a piece of code

Yeah, the stuff here can be classed as malware, but due to not replicating, it can't be a virus.

I'm pretty sure that 'piece of code', 'computer program', and 'software' are all correct ways of describing a virus, of course, it probably depends on the type of virus as well.
A virus is not a computer program. It's a very common mistake to call it such, but not many viruses are actually capable of creating their own programs - Creeper is one of the few

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 04:30:33 AM »
I used to get the vice-versa of your problem, until my hair grew XD

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 04:29:38 AM »
Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands

Oh, and for reference, I will almost always refer to a virus as a piece of code

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 04:09:05 AM »
Well, sortve, A virus is software of sorts..
Indeed, but it fits more in Computer and OS.

But oh well, off to continue editing my topic now I'm back in class :>

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:54:21 AM »
Indeed he does. Also, you know this is in the wrong section?

My project thread is in Software and OS

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Off-Topic Discussion / Scourge's Virus Specifics Thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:52:42 AM »
I am working on a project for my IT Security Unit, in which I will be compiling an essay on different viruses. This will be a databank of sorts, as well as a place where you can talk about the viruses and perhaps past experience with them. Also, you could recommend me a virus to look up or add in.


Introduction

We all know by now what viruses are. After all, with more and more viruses springing up, along with more and more antivirus software to counter them, basic information about viruses is now considered general knowledge.

However, it is not a well-known fact that most viruses listed in the official files were actually originally created to target DOS and IBM systems, rather than Windows. In fact, most of the viruses I will list are made specifically to target systems running DOS FAT, and can be even more dangerous when on Windows NT.

I am compiling a list of the viruses I have discovered and placing them into several categories:
  • [Reasonably] Harmless - These viruses cause little to no damage, to the point where you might not even notice them
  • Annoying - Not necessarily dangerous viruses, but they'll still get on your nerves
  • Dangerous - Viruses that wipe its and bits of data
  • Deadly - Viruses that wipe harddrives, FAT (File Allocation Tables), or generally make it so your computer physically cannot run
  • Amusing - Viruses that have amusing qualities

A virus may fit into more than one category, especially if it is a subtype virus like Vienna.NewVienna or Jerusalem.Frere, or if it has annoying/dangerous and amusing qualities like 4K/Frodo.

General Overview of Viruses

Not to be confused with Trojans, Worms or Scareware/Rogueware, a Virus is a piece of code that can replicate itself and infect files. It cannot exist on its own, much like real viruses, and thus requires to infect a file in order to become resident - whether this file already exists in the system or whether it is made by the virus upon infection varies between viruses, but it is usually the case that an existing file is infected (this leads me to wonder what would happen if a virus were to infect a trojan or a piece of rogueware).

The term virus originates from the 1972 novel When HARLIE Was One, wherein the titular character, a sentient computer called HARLIE, created a piece of viral code to get damaging personal information off of other computers in order to blackmail the person who wanted to turn him off.

The first virus created was an experimental self-replicating program called Creeper, which was written in 1971. What made it different from most viruses was that it did not require infecting files to become resident and replicate, instead creating its own files. The program Reaper was created to destroy Creeper, making it the first anti-virus of sorts, though it bordered nematode territory.

The first virus found "in the wild" - ie outwith the area that it was created - was Elk Cloner, a virus created to target Apple II systems, which was written in 1981, originally as a mere practical joke to annoy the writer's friends.

The first IBM virus was Brain, written in 1986 by two Pakistani brothers. Meant to only infect the computers of people that had pirated their software, it spread too far out of hand. The virus Denzuko was created to destroy Brain, making Denzuko the first nematode - a virus that destroys another virus.

Viruses are classified in various ways - threat level, operating system, and type are the main ways. In 1990, CARO was established in order to regulate the classification of viruses.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:30:40 AM »
SoTG won't do since all she draws are girly dudes.
I'm getting better



All I've gotta do is work on manly faces and hairstyles now

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Chatterbox / Re: Decide My New Name!
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:29:39 AM »
You are supposed to make up new name for the member above!


When did that happen, the OP was to give one to FOTEPX?

He was possibly just suggesting that a forum game should be made out of it.
Wasn't this supposed to be game...?
No, this was supposed to be a serious thread, you lot derailed it

a serious thread ? about foxpet attention whoring ?

you can't be literally serious
He asked us all on Skype, I was the only one who answered, thus he made this

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:23:33 AM »
<= change to MANLIER avatar

Also, more helpful sig.

you're just mad the people of this forum wont make badass fanart of you

They will, in time... :coolface
The only thing we'll ever draw you as is a stereotypical Frenchie with no hair and red eyes

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The virus thread
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:22:44 AM »
I wanted to create this thread, because I was the one who was saying the virus stuff

Also, the ones in the OP are Trojans, not viruses. Navshield appears to be rogueware. Therefore this thread needs renaming to Trojan thread or something, so i can make a virus thread :>

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: February 16, 2012, 02:43:32 PM »
Hey guys, do you think I should class the DBase virus under annoying or dangerous?

When DBase is executed, it checks if it is already in memory, and if not, becomes resident. It infects .com and .ovl files.
When a .dbf file (the main file format of the dBase database management system) is written to while the virus is in memory, the information sent to the file will be garbled. When the file is loaded, the virus will show the file as if it were normal. If the virus is removed after the files have been garbled, they will be permenantly garbled. It may do this to other files whose name ends in .dbf, regardless of whether or not they belong to the dBase program.

The virus creates a file named bugs.dat in any directory where .dbf files are stored. This file keeps track of what files were corrupted and what they were corrupted with. When this file has not been written to for 90 days, the virus overwrites the file allocation table and root directory of drives D: to Z:. This section of the virus's code is buggy, and may not

In addition to the damage to .dbf files, programs larger than 63,415 bytes will no longer be loadable.
You need to make a thread about this stuff, I find it highly interesting.
Where would I even put a thread on viruses? Software and OS?

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Existing Games / Re: If GTM members were Soul Calibur characters.....
« on: February 16, 2012, 02:41:37 PM »
I'unno, never played it

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:34:32 AM »
Two words










Ghost

Balls

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:29:18 AM »
There are LOADS of variants of Jerusalem. It stopped being funny when I hit the tenth one. Now it's hilarious
What is wrong with you, Scourge? >_<
I'm researching viruses. It's certainly more entertaining than Finnish 4chan

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