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941
« on: July 03, 2011, 07:35:06 PM »
I love how all the arguments for keeping this glitch away from the public are poorly hidden elitist remarks or versions of "because I said so".
most of the arguments for showing it are "i wanna know!"
Not really. It's a major underlying reason sure, but the arguments I've seen are thus follows: Arguments against releasing the "Hax Mode" Glitch:1#: Good decision not to release it, though. It would pretty much be the end of Stock building if everyone could stack anything into anything and there was no need to learn Snapper Loading, Axle Loading, extender setups or anything like that. But well done on making it work. =]
Elitism argument. 2#: I think their main concern is that it would cause the death of Stock Building by allowing stuff like this. One way around this would be to treat it like the Realistic Rule in DSL. You CAN build undealistic designs in DSL, stuff like Stacking and eFFe glitching, but it's banned in tournaments and competitive building and things. In the same sense, you COULD build using superstacking in Stock, but it would probably be banned in tournaments. Because most people work on legal tournament building concepts, I don't think they'd focus on the superstacking glitch too much, given that they wouldn't actually be able to utilise it very much. I think it's up to Scrap and Sage, though, it's really their call on whether to disclose their secrets or not.
This is a doom and gloom argument. 3#: another reason would be that people who can't stack or use glitches to save their lives can make lets say a regular 36HS with the glitch, and no one would notice because the bot could be built without it. definitely want to know how to do it tho
Elitism. 4#: True, but if we can't use it why release it in the first place.
Why not? This is basically a "I'm not realeasing it because I said so" argument. 5#: Don't release it otherwise stock popularity would decline within probably about a year. And to be honest it would effect everyone by a good bit and the robot building will become so easy even for beginners. Then probably a good amount of people would leave such as me and this forum would become DSL only forum for about two years and then it would be dead forever. RA2 will become a fully pledged `thing of the past`so release it and RA2 will be in its grave in about two years.
So if this forum wants to live for another 5 years then don't say anything about that glitch.
Doomsaying and a nice elitism start off. Don't want those newbies learing how to play, they might get better than me! 6#: Gets rid of creativity pretty much.
And it means that noobs can create bots that are equal to vets and such :o
First statement is historically wrong. Second statement is elitist. The rest of the arguments were refuted or reposted by DSLer's.
942
« on: July 03, 2011, 06:59:46 PM »
I love how all the arguments for keeping this glitch away from the public are poorly hidden elitist remarks or versions of "because I said so".
943
« on: July 02, 2011, 09:06:01 PM »
You xhould have listened to what your squad members said in the background.
944
« on: July 02, 2011, 08:22:09 PM »
You can't AI?
945
« on: July 02, 2011, 04:59:22 PM »
Most chassis' will just be a box with not much thought behind it IMO.
So are most DSL robots (Specifically of the SNS type and VS type)
Ah, they have to be the right size for everything needed to fit in so they do have thought behind them :P
But in stock they would just have to be a certain size and you could put nearly anything you wanted in there without re-sizing or whatever.
EH?
Have you even played stock!
...no :P
Then don't post here. I don't argue details on Fetus in fetu. Why? I know jack sh**. I havent learned it or studied it. You haven't touched stock. Get out of this thread. It is something affecting stock only.
946
« on: July 02, 2011, 01:20:35 PM »
didn't you say that this was both difficult and had limits on exostacking?
947
« on: July 02, 2011, 12:37:22 PM »
Just don't release it and don't cause all the debate and trouble
Like this whole thread? Half the trouble is caused by not releasing it anyway. If the glitch is so hard anyway release it. It's pretty hypocriticl for a forum to keep hiding building techniques. This about this: If the eFFe and Rupt glitch were kelp secret, where would we all be now?
948
« on: July 02, 2011, 10:18:39 AM »
This is nor a debate or an argument. This is a hypothetical submission for a revision of stock in the event of Hax mode being public.
tl;dr GTFO
949
« on: July 02, 2011, 10:11:48 AM »
My submission of revision is thus follows:
All batteries, CO2 canisters and Control boards shall be grouped under the the "Power" title.
All motors (spinning, drive and burst) shall be grouped under the "Motor" title.
Motors can only have one stack. This is a stack at 100%. So a two wheeled bot can have two extra motors and wheels, making it a 4 wheeled bot. This is the maximum. Alternatively, a drum weapon or any other can be used.
Batteries can be stacked 3 times. A nifty/nifty/nifty is as valid as a black/CB/Small CO2.
Other baseplate components cannot be stacked into batteries or Motors. They can be stacked indefinately.
Weapons, Motors and extenders outside the chassi can be stacked to whatever degree.
950
« on: July 02, 2011, 09:59:50 AM »
I agree with urjak.
Nothing kills faster than ignorance and secrecy.
951
« on: July 02, 2011, 09:57:43 AM »
The title says it all really. Jack Daniels has made the following proposal: I say, release it to the public and future Stock tournaments can be either:
-Stock abiding by the realistic rule (thus negating the need for any hax)
or
-Stock All In-game Glitches Allowed (probably ushering in a new era of leet bots that separate the men from the boys (and women from the girls just to include Scourge)) In the event of Hax Mode being made available to the public, I submit we undergo heavy revisions of the non realistic stock mode. Please post your proposed revisions for tournaments here. I will make a poll on the 4th of july, 2011.
952
« on: July 01, 2011, 04:25:29 PM »
Bots typically fight in a plexyglass box you know.
Not in japan. They just stand back.
953
« on: June 30, 2011, 03:38:29 PM »
The robot smilies are from a stupid MSN Advertizement site that popped up every day and the rest can be found by "I'm feeling lucky"-ing the search "SMLIES FOR 3+" misspellings included.
954
« on: June 28, 2011, 06:15:03 PM »
Why do we have half these damn smilies anyway?
955
« on: June 28, 2011, 08:46:04 AM »
w+m1 pyro?
956
« on: June 26, 2011, 09:27:44 PM »
TOOL AVATAR.
I approve.
Enigma just made me hate tool and R0B0SH4RK.
957
« on: June 26, 2011, 03:23:27 PM »
Mod Edit: Jesus christ, no!
958
« on: June 26, 2011, 03:20:46 PM »
Use one or 2 notches upwards for your FS's maybe.
959
« on: June 26, 2011, 03:19:22 PM »
Okay, now the thread is locked.
960
« on: June 26, 2011, 01:26:48 PM »
Thread Locked.
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