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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 03, 2011, 08:43:56 PM »
I for one like to know how those around me behave including the family cat. And I'm very sure cats can see further than that. Other wise he is extremely good at tracking lazer light paths for starters.
Cats can only clearly see up to about 3 feet. However, a cat's eye is great at sensing movement. That is why your cat can follow a laser pointer with ease. Besides, a laser is a light (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation), and one does not need to see in detail to see the presence of a light.

Nevertheless, if your cat could see it, you should have been able to see it too. Unless of course you want to reject our entire understanding of visible light and eye function. In which case, you'd better have some evidence to back your claim.

Funny that you would say that. We can disagree so bad that I have punched her before while she was slapping me.
That's quite a violent situation. Does this happen often?

Ain't all problems testable? Yes it is on assumptions thats how humans work.
How does one test if it's a demon who was demon standing in your house? First, you would have to prove the existence of demons. Second, you would have to learn about the nature of demons, and how they operate. Then you'd have to find some sort of evidence that the demon was actually there. Something that rules out all other possible explanations. Thus far, you've provided no information that we haven't been able to easily explain without the use of the supernatural.

For all you know you could be talking to a computer thats giving these answers. How do you know your not?
I don't know that I'm not talking to a computer, but I have been given no evidence to make me think that I am. However, there seems to be plenty of evidence to indicate that you are indeed a human. For instance, your consistently bad spelling/grammar. I've never seen a computer approximation that can match the "voice" of a person.

Other factors. Do all agree with some of these factors? No.
Could you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're saying, and I don't want to misrepresent your argument.

The way I'v been brought up may seem......... religious but it also explains so other things for me as well.
If religion makes you happy, go for it. But it sounds like you're letting irrationality frighten you. If single-mindedness really bothers you, open up and consider other viewpoints. Consider for a moment that it's not a demon. Do the alternate explanations offered to you make sense?

 
Science can't explain every thing.
True, science can't currently explain anything. Nothing can. It can, however, explain your "encounters".

For one Its very depressing to think your nothing (note the "Nothing") more then a random chemical mix that is now some how living.
Why is that depressing? Must there be a plan for your relationships to be meaningful? Must your destiny be preplanned by a space tyrant for you to be happy, and help others be happy?

But now I'm going off on a different topic all together there. The place is small and not much air flow. Yes these no evidence that I can say or you'll accept to prove it was a demon not a random air pocket.
It doesn't matter how small of a room it is. Even in a hot oven, cold pockets form. (This is why it's advised to rotate your dish halfway through the bake cycle.) It's not because a demon is standing in the oven; it's because of physics.

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 03, 2011, 02:21:17 PM »
One, the cat saw it. Two the spot was not on the ground it was in the air.
Cats stare. That's what they do. Also, like humans, cats can only see visible light. They cannot see ultraviolet light, but rather have a membrane that reflects light back into the retina. If your room was well lit, your cat was actually at a disadvantage because this membrane causes cats to see worse than humans in light. Besides, a cat's vision maxes out at 2-3 feet in front of its face.

So basically, if your cat could see something, you should have been able to see it as well. You didn't, so why are you so certain that your cat did?

Three I just mentioned the spot to my mom and sis who in turn tested the spot. Then my mom said it was a demon. As for the praying part you'd have to be a Christan to really understand by what I met by praying. The worlds way of thinking will not understand it.
Ah, so that's what this is about. You obviously come from a deeply religious family. Your mother's explanation for any odd phenomenon is "demons". She has clearly raised you to not question her judgment. But consider for a moment that it's not a demon and that there was just a cold spot in your house. We know that cold spots develop. On the other hand, we have no evidence that it was a demon in your house. What if it was the Holy Ghost keeping an eye on you? There's just as little evidence to support that as there is a demon.

The praying likely got rid of the problem the same way that placebos can cure diseases: you essentially tricked yourself into improvement. You desperately wanted to get rid of the unknown. Your mother provided an answer to the unknown. To you, she is a highly reputable source, so you accepted her answer. You were scared. She then provided the solution: praying. You prayed. No longer could the cold be felt anymore. Why? Before the praying, you were (maybe even subconsciously) looking for anything out of the ordinary. After the praying, you were looking for normalsy. It's really that simple.

As I've said before, this solution is testable. Yours relies on many assumptions and in no way can be tested. So, why believe it was a demon?

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 02, 2011, 11:15:49 PM »
Some times demons (Ghosts) and logic do not mix so if your a person who thinks logic is every thing let me know because then I'm speaking pointlessly to you.
If it's not logical, why would you think it's so? Logic is the very basis of human understanding. Here's a bullsh** example for you: My carpet is brown. Therefore all carpet must be brown. That conclusion isn't logical, and thus, is quite a stupid conclusion to make.

Your conclusion is entirely irrational. First of all, you make the assumption that demons exist. You go on to assume that it was a demon who is guilty of shoving you into your bed, and not another person, alien, monster, vampire, bear, taco, Jesus, Evil Lincoln, etc. Those are two huge assumptions with little to no supporting evidence. However, sleep paralysis is something that has been studied, is known to occur, and is known to produce situations very similar to the one you shared. So my question now is, why do you maintain that it was a demon when more plausible explanations exist?

Feel free to share your other encounter(s). I will do my best to analyze the situation and offer up a conclusion of my own, if possible. For the record, I don't feel as though you're a liar. I know you legitimately believe what you're saying. What I'm doing is providing you with possible explanations that can actually be backed by science and reasoning.

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 02, 2011, 07:42:26 PM »
I for one know I feel asleep the way I woke. Yes you turn and toss in your sleep. Every one does. I know cause sometimes my sheets are every were.
How do you know you didn't squirm or roll over in your sleep? Just because your sheets didn't move, that doesn't mean you didn't. Unless of course your nightwear and sheets are velcro.

Judging by what your talking about here you'v never had anything of the sort happen so I'll have a hard time getting the point to you.
I don't get sleep paralysis, but my friend/former roommate does. He's told me all about it. Your story sounds exactly like what he experiences.

When you are in a room or any were and a demon (Or how you guys like it called ghost) is in the area you know. There presents let you know. You mainly get scared or get the feeling you want to leave that area right now or both or possibly more. If your like 85% or more of the world you'll just think I'm a freak and needs to go to a psycho place. Thats what the world more or less does with people who do have these.......expreences (Spelling not coming to me)
Again, what's the more logical conclusion: you were in a well-known, and quite common state known as sleep paralysis where hallucinations and a sense of fear are common, or a supernatural phenomenon occurred that breaks all of the laws of physics?

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 02, 2011, 07:06:12 PM »
I do not feel like getting into a debate about this one again.
You cannot state that and complain about single mindedness at the same time... Well, unless you're fine with being a hypocrite.

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Chatterbox / Re: Just a strange thought....
« on: January 02, 2011, 06:18:13 PM »
Social recognition purposes.
**** that. Wear whatever you want.

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 02, 2011, 06:01:42 PM »
In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.
Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping?

As for the sinking into the bed, which is a more logical explanation: you were in a state of sleep paralysis (which is very common) and hallucinated the whole thing, or the laws of physics are bunk and a ghost who's allergic to alarm clocks was shoving your whole body into a mattress?

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Chatterbox / Re: Just a strange thought....
« on: January 02, 2011, 05:54:43 PM »
Well, generally I am all for originality and difference but sometimes...

I mean, a man feeling like men are idiots for being what they are, alright, but dressing like a woman ? Serious identity problem here.
How does a woman dress? Why is this style of dress exclusive to females?

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 02, 2011, 04:36:56 PM »
I believe that souls don't have a shape. But they're not going to show up in front of someone, having no shape, right? I guess they project a picture of their last moments of life, somehow.
A more logical conclusion would be that they wear clothes because they're some figment of your imagination, and you remember them wearing clothes. Sure, that's not as sexy of an answer as the one you provided, but it's an explanation that doesn't rely on the supernatural.

Another point I'd like to make: If you can see the ghost, and the ghost is actually there, that means they absorb and reflect visible light. Thus, you should be able to get a picture of whatever it is that you see. Don't give me this bullsh** about orbs. Those can be explained by dust particles in the air, a smudge on the camera, or any number of reasonable explanations. I want to see somebody post the ghost of a dead relative, or whatever.

You want me to tell you of one of them? Alright have you ever bin pushed into your bed when your laying face down? If your in the position you could end up suffocating. Lucky my head was off to the side so I could still breath but the pressure was there. Heck my body is getting shaky as recall this. Any way as the pressure continued the deeper I went into the bed. The worst part of it is the it almost froze my body, I could not move a inch all I could do was think thats it. It went away when my moms alarm clock went and the bed springs pushed me back up to the level I normally go to. I got up and every mussel in my body felt like it was twitching after that. No it was not a dream. I know because my eyes were open and when it went away I went out into the hall way in my place.
It stopped with an alarm? Hmm... Simple explanation would be sleep paralysis. When in sleep paralysis, you're only partially awake. Your body is still asleep, but some brain function has restored. Hallucinations are common when in this state. When the alarm went off, you fully woke up.

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Chatterbox / Re: Ghosts
« on: January 02, 2011, 02:59:09 PM »
There's no reason for me to believe that ghosts exist. For those who think they've seen a ghost, was this lost soul wearing clothing? If yes, how does that make any sense? The person's clothes didn't die with them.

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Chatterbox / Re: RFS
« on: December 31, 2010, 04:04:43 AM »
what happened to him?
He got married, revealed to us that he is a dragon furry, and works for some website. He drops by on occasion.

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Chatterbox / Re: the last question
« on: December 31, 2010, 12:45:40 AM »
I require more than one word in a post in my topics. Unless of course it is an irrelevantly funny word. However, merely responding with "ok." is unacceptable and I will now shun you from this small area of the board which is mine. Like really, that is worse than people who reply with "K" to a text message. Communicating having an understanding is one thing but there are many ways in which to do so such as "yes master, I understand that I will never have a reading comprehension level anywhere near yours so now I will simply nod and smile and act as if I understand."

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These kids would have never survived the old days.

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Chatterbox / Re: What browser do you use?
« on: December 30, 2010, 10:38:23 PM »
pron mode you say???
Incognito windows. Give it a shot!

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Chatterbox / Re: What browser do you use?
« on: December 30, 2010, 09:36:34 PM »
Primarily Chrome, though I sometimes use Safari and Firefox.

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Chatterbox / Re: you rang?
« on: December 30, 2010, 08:13:30 PM »

So what's up with the house arrest?

All in good time.

and right on frezal.

450 Mhz processor
Windows 98, 2000, ME, XP
16 MB 3D accelerated video card
64 MB RAM
DirectX 8.1

hahah, primitive. stupid mortals.

btw, I'm sure I can find the disc somewhere because I did actually buy the game back in the day. Probably even have the box with all original packaging. What you would you new fan boys that can't get a hold of it be willing to offer on ebay for it? hah.
I think my computer just barely met the specs at the time.

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Chatterbox / Re: you rang?
« on: December 30, 2010, 07:54:06 PM »
sup frezal. Props on the boosh avatar.

As for building/modding again, I'm currently running a rather wrigged up PC right now. Brick-like 2.66 Ghz P4 compaq nx9010 laptop that I somehow broke the screen to when I was swapping out the DVD drive for a DVDRW. (from my old core 2 duo Acer laptop that I finally fried the motherboard on after soldering and super gluing the AC/DC adapter female piece back on about 4 times.)

So it's more of a desktop now, luckily it had a monitor out and I found an old AG neovo flat screen in my ex gf's basement. I'm running a cracked version of Windows 7 Ultimate but it doesn't support my video card and I only have 512 MB of RAM. So running anything graphically intensive or really any flash video or things with AC3 sound is pretty booty. I can barely run Firefox, iTunes, and BitTorrent at the same time.

Besides, I have no idea where my game disc is. I'm gonna look up the games system requirements though, I'm curious now, it's been awhile so I don't remember. The game is, what?, like.. 10 years old though? ha. Damn, I really don't know of any other low budget computer game that can still boast such a following after so long.
I think it only required a 450 Mhz processor with a 16 MB video card. RAM was probably something low, like 64 MB.

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Chatterbox / Re: you rang?
« on: December 30, 2010, 03:29:26 PM »
Why hello, good sir. For some reason, I'm still here.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Mythbusters Discussion
« on: December 28, 2010, 07:10:40 PM »
Mythbusters is qutie possibly the greatest science show ever created.


Best science show geared towards teens and adults, maybe. Best science show for children award would have to go to Bill Nye.
Bill Nye went to my university for grad school.

By alternative I meant what you said. They do expierements but never do all the nescesities for it to make sence.
So instead of saying what I said, you decided to throw out a word that meant absolutely nothing (given the context).

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Mythbusters Discussion
« on: December 28, 2010, 05:47:37 PM »
I wouldn't clasify it as a science show. If any thing, it's an "alternitive" type of show.
Mythbusters is sort of an intro to basic scientific experiments. They don't always follow the Scientific Method, nor do they always do it right, but the show is still based around science. Saying the show is more in the alternative genre doesn't make sense as it doesn't mean anything.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: December 28, 2010, 12:46:34 PM »
I'm really underweight. Probably because I stopped eating breakfast a year ago. :P
Skipping breakfast usually causes people to gain weight as it encourages eating more later, and messes with your metabolism. I would advise eating a healthy breakfast instead. Skip out on the heart clogging stuff and go with a fruit salad or even a smoothy.

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