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« on: July 09, 2011, 12:41:28 AM »
Humm, I didn't think SnS would be able to beat either my double heavy plow popup or fatrat
Woops. Forgot to say this is Nar AI. I don't think there is an SnS around that could take out Fatrat or your wide popup.
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« on: July 09, 2011, 12:03:50 AM »
I have finally built my Potluck entry (SnS), and I am quite happy with how it turned out. It can consistently do this:  Hope No More^ And this:  Rotation-Powered Pulsar^ There is only one bot I have tested against that can (rather cheaply) consistently beat it in NAR AI (and boy how I now hate that bot), but I do worry about that arena...
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« on: July 08, 2011, 08:18:31 PM »
Garvin, your comic lacked originality and any sort of character or plot development. It was merely a one-frame reiteration of a long dead joke that did not utilize any of the personalities of the mods your teaser promised to include. In the future, try to have more than one frame and come up with at least with a funny plot or joke.
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« on: July 08, 2011, 07:48:51 PM »
He hasn't pissssed me off lately by messing with my stats, so it is up to him if he wants to volunteer.
Sure, I'll volunteer.
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« on: July 08, 2011, 06:59:39 PM »
Why the should he have to divulge his secrets?
Of course he doesn't have to, but in a community devoted to a dying game, new discoveries should be shared and added to our knowledge banks, not kept shrouded in secrecy because we are afraid of possible change. The RA2 community has evolved considerably since it began; we should never attempt to slow this process by keeping secret a glitch that could very easily never be seen again. As has been said, Scrap is under no obligation to tell anyone, though in my opinion there is an unwritten responsibility for us all to build up the knowledge and skill of our community through showcasing, advice giving, and new discoveries regarding the function of this game (this glitch for example). The fact that this glitch has also been shared with a few other members (Click and Kill if I recall correctly) also worries me, because it creates a division within our community between an "elite" whom share discoveries and the rest of the community who are kept in the dark save for a tantalizing and sort of cruel demonstration that seems to be saying nothing more than "We found this awesome glitch, but we don't think you newbie guys can handle it so we won't share." This is not how a community should function, especially one devoted to a game that has so few followers. And with that my "rant" concludes.
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« on: July 08, 2011, 05:28:41 PM »
Uhhhhhh BFE and AAM aren't banned because of what they do, they are banned because they are done outside of the game.
That's news to me. But regardless, the primary reason people want this glitch banned is because of its effects, not its secrecy.
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« on: July 08, 2011, 05:07:54 PM »
First I said it would ruin stock, you guys didn't agree. Okay, fine, it won't ruin stock. Thus the secondary argument that it's unfair to us that it be banned just because you guys don't know how to do it. It's not a cheaty way of building. It's done completely in-game, just like any other glitch. Go back 5 years and show someone snapper loading, they'll think you're a witch and burn you at the stake.
Also, that's not the only reason we haven't released it yet, nor is it really even the main one. It's Scrap's to release. Why the should he have to divulge his secrets?
Well alright, as long as you don't hold by the "ruining stock" argument. However, I don't think people here are saying it should be banned because no one knows how to do it, they are saying it should be banned because it allows you to stack practically anything. This is the exact same reason that BFE and AAM are banned, because the allow for building bots that do not fit the communities expectations. We could allow these bots, like the community probably first did when deciding whether stacking should be allowed, or we could forbid them. Either way, I don't think it is secrecy that makes people want the glitch banned.
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« on: July 08, 2011, 04:58:12 PM »
I don't know how that would work. Are you implying I should use side pannels?
No, I'm thinking a 20cm extender coming down for each disk attachment point and sticking an NPC on that extender. Then you could easily make it invertible... however come to think of it that would require a different way of attaching the weapons so maybe its not such a good idea...
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« on: July 08, 2011, 04:55:27 PM »
In fact he should be able to use this in building every bot he makes, but he doesn't because he knows people will rage. It's actually unfair to Scrap to have this banned in tournaments just because only a few people know it.
Alright, now this post really got me. You guy's (you and Scrap) had said previously that this glitch would be unreleased because it would "ruin stock building" and now you're saying it is unfair to Scrap to have this glitch banned? Do you know how crazy that sounds? You're tearing down your only argument for keeping this glitch secret. The reason people want it banned is because it is a cheaty way of building (I am not sold on whether this is even true), not because it is unreleased.
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« on: July 08, 2011, 03:02:10 PM »
IMO you could use lighter drive motors like NPCs and get more weapons.
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« on: July 07, 2011, 11:31:37 PM »
The new arena is Keznorg IGC. (Hazards Off)
What? Which arena is this?
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« on: July 07, 2011, 12:01:33 PM »
If they're naturally ambidextrous, they would be by that reckoning.
If they've taught themselves, then I doubt it
You guys are putting to much emphasis on the "dominant right hand= logic, dominant left hand= artistic" thing. The brain is an incredibly complex system, so you have to do far more research into the way a person's brain functions to accurately predict the intelligence, creativity, and logic of a given person. At least more research than looking at what hand someone writes with.
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« on: July 06, 2011, 05:20:38 PM »
Very nice dude. +1 if I could
I gave him some on your behalf. :)
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« on: July 05, 2011, 05:19:59 PM »
Alright... the final deadline is the 10th of July, Please send me your nominations.
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« on: July 05, 2011, 01:10:05 AM »
It also beat Bane Revolution II
Hmmm.... Well I sure would hope, giving the fact that this bot out-weapons Bane.
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« on: July 04, 2011, 10:42:10 AM »
Urjak, if you're reading this, could you tell your little spider friends to please get out of my room? I've found 4 or 5 in the last couple of hours.
Who do you think sent them their in the first place?  Ahahahahaha!!!
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« on: July 03, 2011, 11:11:31 PM »
Accidents doesn't happen just because you are actively trying to test for it. You won't find it even if you try. After all, what can you try besides play more and hope to bump into it?
Well... taking that more pessimistic view, this could be one of the only real chances that this glitch will be added to the banks of RA2 knowledge.
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« on: July 03, 2011, 11:02:48 PM »
@MNB: Once they realized it was possible, it took them three years. Not months or weeks or days. Years.
This is the sad part. In keeping it secret, they are forcing other members to go back and do possibly months (or even years apparently) to get to the same level of progress that would be achieved if Sage and Scrap shared their knowledge. That is how progress happens, people put time and effort into something and then share the fruits of their labor so that other members can build off of it instead of working from the ground up.
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« on: July 03, 2011, 10:46:49 PM »
I vote that LiNck is the only person that made complete sense here at this point.
Sense making I'm complete! Stupid N00bish joke aside, what LiNck just posted sums up my viewpoint (and probably several other members').
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« on: July 03, 2011, 10:39:39 PM »
But it's entirely possible that someone could make a bot with a normal sized chassis and not-floating components that looks like they used hax mode, but they used BFE to do it. Hell, that's what I'd do if I were so inclined (and knew how to BFE). So, common sense should consequently tell you "I have no idea whether this bot was built using BFE of Hax mode." This point should make a lot of sense if you're understanding what I'm writing. But hey, we're on the internet. Misunderstandings are easy :3
I am not saying they are easy to tell apart, I am saying that all we have to do is outlaw both Hax Mode and BFE and the whole problem goes away. I can't think of a situation where being able to tell the difference between the two of them would be of much importance.
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