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« on: April 07, 2013, 02:23:20 AM »
Honestly I would build stock but I don't want to post anything second rate, and I don't want to build yet more popups and rammers (stuff that are hard not to be second rate at comparatively) and I end up not building stock at all.
Duder, no one wants from You to build top level bots always. Although, I didn't get the impression that You are a bad stock builder... Also, for an example, not all the DSL builders are top level too, but they still build, so... You can always make other bot types than popups and rammers. And the popups are not a "second rate bots" IMO.
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« on: April 07, 2013, 02:10:10 AM »
 I think it's 6V nifty! /badpun
i literally have NO idea what you are talking about.
Me neither. Holy crap you stacked six pinks together?
You should totally check this out then : Chill out, duders, it's an art bot, it's not technically a FSS, it just was supposed to look like a one. 1 black > 6 pinks.
Do You think that I don't know that, perhaps You will stack for me a black in this no-free-space chassis? actually i only posted it in my showcase because it looked sloppy lawl
So yeah, I used static irons instead of ramplates, which should help just in case something prevents it from spinning. But yeah, it still looks sloppy.
You should use 4 HP drive for exchange for a more weapons + no static irons + less free axles but with many irons stacked on one axle (5 instead of 2) + one blue snapper drive setup. I have HW popups, one MW popup, but no LW popup, so I decide to start one. I know that people come here not to see a regular bot types, so sorry then. The 0909090101 clone failed at my expectations : I cloned this bot with some enhancements (better setup, wider, more sloped front, better "castering", 4 razors totally stacked), but it's still not a top level bot.
It lacks pushing power, and it's not so wedgy.
The casters do their work, they even protect the wheels when I rotated the drive at 180, and it turns faster now.
The biggest problem that I ran into, is when my wheels touch the other bot chassis and then my bot starts to drive backwards.
So I decided to make a different approach, but I miscalculated the needed space, and just before I was about to start the chassis again, I came up with an another idea. This was the story of LW-Juggly, it have superior wedge to Zenith, but still somehow have a fragile weapon system and not enough weapons, also it needs a better way to "hold" the enemies. So, any advices for his improving, or for the clone, or I should remake the chassis and try to finish the original idea for a popup? Although, I dunno if I rebuild it, will the wedges be that good, Zenith have the best wedges in LW in SC3. Here : 
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« on: April 05, 2013, 05:17:44 PM »
Tedious and hard are two different things.
True, but he didn't use this word, so it's better if he explain his posts.
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« on: April 05, 2013, 04:54:52 PM »
@ Nary : Don't You contradict with yourself? ...because the constant stacking, overlapping and the mad axle load chains is too much of a hassle...
VS ...There, I said it, stock isn't more difficult than DSL...
So they are both hard, but You still ran into DSL? Also : Stock takes like 3x the amount of time to build pretty much the same thing.
Unless you really want highly unrealistic bots like 36HS (which kinna functions like a FSS in DSL anyway), DSL is an easier platform to work with for the same results.
@ Thyrus : You need to apology to Ianh, NOW! Because : -This was a nice thread until You showed up and started an unprovoked personal directed insults to him (and even included me too). -What are You doing here in general, if You don't build stock and don't want to, and this is a "need stock builders" thread? -You are a double standard hypocrite, You told us that "we are mocking people", but You didn't say anything when Inf posted this : ...People are building less stock because fewer builders have learned how to properly build in recent years...
...Y'all are lame...it's not hard to be original in Stock...
...I maintain my position..."if you cant build stock, your credibility is alot less because this is the original game."...
-Quit "reading" between the lines and posting insults based on wrong assumptions. -Also, if I say that someone is lazy or don't have an imagination, and then I demonstrate the opposite with a hard work, then I have the moral rights to call that person this way. -I'm tired of the arrogance of the "DSL-yesterday-registered-children-mafia", that gangs up on someone every time when he speaks about stock. Why all flame wars with me and Ianh involved, had a "DSL only" members involved mostly, if not at all? -DON'T FEEL FREE to protect your precious DSL, when there is no need to. -I'm not much into DSL and that's why I don't post opinions in the DSL threads. I'm expecting the same from the people that don't build stock. So, I'm "showing You the door", PAL, GTFO 
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« on: April 05, 2013, 03:45:33 PM »
did you test it against 123's sns...?
if you dont have them i can send them + ai to you
I will answer You in skype only, anyway... [boasting]The Leonardo da Vinci of stock proudly presents :[/boasting  ] This is exactly my number 100 built bot since my return. ...I don't understand...is a shell spinner just a compact horizontal spinner?...
...also yeah it's technically not a shell spinner since no shell, but since it's just painful to make an actual shell spinner in stock, this is the next best thing...
...if I made it with a ramplates all over for example, it will look more like a SS, but it will be pathetic in combat, so...
You wanted a real shell spinner, so here it is :  Total averageness, it beats the weak bots and loses from the top ones, nothing less and nothing more. Finding a place and stacking those pinks was enormous PitA! I made the drive a little wider in the last minute for gaining slightly a turning/rotating speed.
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« on: April 05, 2013, 03:19:18 PM »
I cloned this bot with some enhancements (better setup, wider, more sloped front, better "castering", 4 razors totally stacked), but it's still not a top level bot.
It lacks pushing power, and it's not so wedgy.
The casters do their work, they even protect the wheels when I rotated the drive at 180, and it turns faster now.
The biggest problem that I ran into, is when my wheels touch the other bot chassis and then my bot starts to drive backwards.
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« on: April 04, 2013, 08:08:13 PM »
I think it's because you don't balance the weight on the axle, and it breaks.
That, or just balancing each Z-Tek off an Axle, in general, will cause it to become wonky.
Nevermind guys, it wasn't that. I just built some totally new one setups for this, and it works well now. So well, it's actually better than 123save's one in effectiveness and protection. No 140 ext. as well. It even went straight into my secret folder if You know what this means...
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« on: April 04, 2013, 07:57:39 PM »
Um none of them use that blue snapper nifty stack 
Sorry. I was misled due to my #2 advice. See, You didn't die from making a better splash.
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« on: April 04, 2013, 07:44:32 PM »
1. Too much 090901101010 uberstack that I can handle.  2. You didn't learn how to make splashes with details and insides... 3. The last bot is cool, but You could just swap the disks for a Y ext. and gain weight for a front protection or a wedge. Good to have You around to build stock, just drop the uberstack glitch...
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« on: April 04, 2013, 07:33:08 PM »
DSL shell spinners all look the same too, so do other DSL bot types and many DSL components aren't used in tournaments etc. I just think IRL and the standard DSL realistic building factor are mostly attracting people who don't want to be bothered learning stock glitches.
QFT, some people just can't keep up with the hardness of the glitches.
Stock seems like it lacks designs because:
1. Click and FB aren't around much at all to showcase new designs.
True.
2. Venko likes keeping his best/most unique bots a secret.
My apology for this suxy act.
3. No major stock AI pack has been released in years!
True.
4. A lot more innovators have slowed down or ceased posting (such as Sage).
True.
Perhaps we need a gallery of inspiration, where people can post concepts and we could also post innovative designs from the past.
[boasting]Or they can just go check my showcase.[/boasting]
I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything they don't want to, games are meant to be fun however they can also be challenging and stock has a high learning curve that when you stick to it you feel more accomplished when you create something great.
You guys could make these stock tournaments:
1. Noob wars. good idea
2. IRL stock. this is a rule for 1.
3. Random component list (from a hat) type tournaments. very excelent idea
4. Stock replica wars. bad idea
Then you don't need to learn glitches and such (except with #3) and more parts could get used.
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« on: April 04, 2013, 07:16:48 PM »
I'm afraid I don't understand what that means...
It means You CAN'T do this :  Press F12 in the bot lab to see the green collision meshes, none of them must pass thru the red sphere bound. Because this will cause spawning (when the bot is about to load on his start position) problems on some arenas.
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« on: April 04, 2013, 06:59:57 PM »
One solution, is if we force the stock back to inefficient noobot levels. This will bring the never-used-exotic-components back in the game, but I'm agree with Trov, that some of them just have a different use now (for protection), and I like that. But however I'm not offering this, I'm happy with what is stock now (exept the 140 extenders  and the 0910910190 uberstack , I mean, the earth spins around for years without them, BBEANS, Starcore AI). How many times can you snapper load however many Ztek HPs with tribars with irons or maces and call it a new HS? Is it a new design just because you knocked one pixel of chassis space off but could still stack the same old setup?
I have at least 3 very new setups for HSs, but they went so good, so I put them in the secret folder and no showcasing for now, I have something similar with a popup setup too. But I just assume, that there are not much people like me around to innovate.
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« on: April 04, 2013, 06:49:45 PM »
I'm not much into DSL, so let's hope that these rules are OK, and what You wanted. Also let's hope, that the people will be happy with my "DSL3 choice" and "all things cleared in the rules" this time. If something is not in the rules, it's probably a loophole, this time. I will judge is something legal, if it's missing or unclear in the rules, so feel free to ask. [moverightslow]I wish good luck to all entrants  [/moverightslow]
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« on: April 04, 2013, 11:51:57 AM »
You need to PM me the rules for next months BOTM
The "other stuff like stock for example..." didn't get enough votes to get an attention. ACAMS needs this PM as soon as possible, so no more time for discussions. Basically, I'm going to send him : MW DSL3 beta only IRL And the most nazi rules of all time, that will make the loopholing this time imposible. I think that they are very well made, even that I'm not much into DSL... Good luck to everyone, this thread is about to be closed.
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« on: April 04, 2013, 11:39:17 AM »
What! 9 people build stock only! Where, show them to me!
Stock is not "played out" yet, look at my posted "innovations/new bot types" and these, that I'm about to release.
As I told before, some people just don't have an imagination.
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« on: April 03, 2013, 05:50:56 PM »
ahhhhh so niceeee....even if the chassis could stand to be a wee bit more compact.
and now that you're back and pumping out venkreations (Venko-creations for your Bulgarian translator), I am going to hate it when you leave.
If I make the chassis airtight, I will gain only a 2-3 kilos and what? This way at least it looks more like the original cubic TI. Uhmmm, I don't use translator, spell check or dictionary... I understood that word "Venkreations" pretty well. Anyway, why everytime when I come up with a good bot design it has to havok :  Any ideas how to make this not havoking, it just flies and twists now. Y U NO WANT TO SPIN BOT... 
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« on: April 03, 2013, 03:44:40 PM »
I can list a lot of shortcomings, but the good news is, that there is a way to improve it a lot, I just don't have time right now to explain, but good bot idea at general tho.
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« on: April 03, 2013, 01:30:12 PM »
Sorry, that I'm bumping this thread, but I sent You a PM, and I have the impression that You didn't notice it in the hurry.
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« on: April 03, 2013, 01:22:56 PM »
I'm with an old fox browser.
I tried to include a moving text script, I also noticed that the Inf signature isn't moving.
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« on: April 03, 2013, 01:16:03 PM »
How about a BOTM where the only restriction is that the bot must use exactly fifteen components. No more, no less.
If enough people voted "other stuff like stock for example...", it will be on the table for a discussion. Also, do You all don't mind plazmic inferno to be a ref?
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