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Stock Showcases / Scrap Daddy Design

« on: September 11, 2009, 11:29:39 PM »

and a time where i felt like Venko. theres pretty much no useful reason for stacking this unless for a lw side hammer.
(Image removed from quote.)

What a coincidence.  I had to stack Snappers like that to make Frag Beetle Larva (a MW side hammer).

The LW looks good.  I wonder whose chassis is lighter, yours or inf's?  The tall one or the long one?

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Discussion / Spin robots Out of the Arena?

« on: September 11, 2009, 11:22:29 PM »

Chained motors COULD be done and work (although not easily) in real life.

Except nobody would ever do it anyways because it's much easier, stronger, and more efficient to just use one big motor.  Personally I consider chaining motors unrealistic and wouldn't allow it in BBEANS.

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General Support / C++ Runtime Error

« on: September 11, 2009, 11:10:35 PM »

Do you have the 2.1 patch?  I could swear I included this fix with the DSL 2.1 patch.

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Modifications / WANTED: Team logos

« on: September 11, 2009, 10:55:24 PM »

Are you also doing a DSL version after BBEANS 6, and I know you have lots on your plates right now so, I might try some.

Yes, I will make a DSL pack after BBEANS6.  It might not be as fancy though because DSL3 will be coming out.  I'm pretty sure BBEANS6 will still be DSL2 though.

Edit: Is the Excessive Force picture from Mythbusters, because it looks familier.

Yes.  You get half a virtual cookie because you didn't know what episode it's from.



It is the two-stage rocket sled they used to obliterate a compact car.  The best example of excessive force I could think of

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Tournament Archives / ELBITE SuperTournament: Brackets & Match Videos

« on: September 11, 2009, 10:19:31 PM »

I don't know how to do a successful image map (Perhaps some help from you click?)

I thought you got that worked out.

Well, here's how you do it anyways...

First you need to make the map itself.  Don't worry about the image yet.  The code for a map looks like this: (I am copying this code from the BBEANS brackets)

Code: [Select]

<map name=&quot;wbracket&quot;>
<area shape=rect coords=&quot;5,0,115,35&quot; href=BloodShed_Vela.wmv>
</map>

Couple things to pay attention to.  First, you need to name the map in the

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Modifications / WANTED: Team logos

« on: September 11, 2009, 09:26:21 PM »

After doing some work on the BBEANS AI pack, I have realized what an incredibly daunting task it is to come up with 50 unique team logo images.

Therefore, I am now accepting submissions from anyone who wants to contribute.  Just look at the list of teams below, pick one (or several) that doesn't have a logo yet, and post your logo here.  I will look through the thread and use the logos that I like the best in the BBEANS AI pack.

Guidelines for team logo images:
-it can be no smaller than 128x128 pixels.  Ideally, it should be exactly 128x128, but I can resize it down if it is bigger.

-try not to use blatantly copyrighted images.  It probably doesn't matter if your logo does involve a copyrighted image, but I still prefer originality.  At least crop it and add some text or something to alter it a little bit.

-try to stick with the theme of the team.  I probably won't use generic logos of tornadoes with "PWND" stamped in big red block letters at the bottom, and stuff like that.


Here is a list of the 50 teams in the BBEANS AI pack, along with logos:
(You may notice there are only 3 bots on a team.  That is intentional; I figure that with 3 tournaments represented in the pack, it's just easier to organize with 3-bot teams instead of 6-bot teams.)

(You may also notice some bots you don't recognize.  That is because I have AI'd and included all the extra bots I could still find--bots that were switched out for new versions, new bots that were submitted too late and never used, and even some bots that were rejected for being illegal.)

index 0
The Champions
"No time for losers, 'cause we are the champions!"
Childs Play IV, Flaming Whizzer, Seism 13

index 1
Second Place
"Not quite good enough for the championship... but more than good enough to beat you!"
Le\/eL, Wedge Tracker, R4

index 2
Team Clickbeetle
"All Clickbeetle's bots."
Brown Wreckluse 2, Event Horizon 2, Heaven's Sawmill

index 3
Team Firebeetle
"Mostly Firebeetle's bots."
Pillar of Fire, Sadrabbit, Copyright Infringement

index 4
Team Pyscolone
"All Pyscolone's bots."
ZodiaK, VeXeD, Bounty Hunter

index 5
Team Meganerdbomb
"All Meganerdbomb's bots."
FIXXXER, Wolverine, Death Dealer

index 6
Tough Luck
"Really Should Have Done Better... That means we're due for a victory!"
3.14-ston, Rampant Puppy Love, Cardiac Arrest

index 7
Revolutionary Designs
"Don't worry, we can put a positive spin on it when you lose."
Rigadoon, HP Spin Tek, Absolute Chaos

index 8
Excessive Force
"Like getting run over by a bullet train."
Interceptor, Trident, Spearhead
Free virtual cookie to whoever can guess what that's a picture of in the logo.

index 9
Team Ackbar
"It's a trap!"
Box of Grime, Straight Shooting, 45-70 Magnum

index 10
Frontal Assault
"Turn on bot.  Point front at enemy.  Win."
T-2, Nobody Nose, Vela

index 11
Team Popcorn
"Pop. Pop-pop.  POP.  POPPOPPOPPOPPOP!"
Bio Quad, SUPRISE!, SurgicalStrike

index 12
Team Waterbug
"Neglected Waterbug?  Never heard of it, why?"
Panic, NeglectedVain, Crawl Through Knives v4.2

index 13
Learn to Fly
"You'll be airborne in no time!"
DarkBlade 1.0, 7095, The Emancipator
Another virtual cookie to whoever can name the two bots in the logo.

index 14
Dark Horses
"Never underestimate the Dark side of the Horse."
Shreddar, I Will Get Shredded, Trojan Horse

index 15
Team SFTW
"When fame is out of reach... there's always infamy!"
Spinner from the west, PieLaunchertheSecond, Tsunami

index 16
Balancing Act - I know what the logo is going to be for this team and I am working on it, so don't do this one.
"Offense and defense in equal measure."
Dense2, RipTide, T-800 Terminator

index 17
Team DVS
"Devious bots with Dual Vertical Spinners."
493-1023, Terminal Velocity, Mjorhmei

index 18
wat
"weird..."
Volatile Partisan, TweakerBeater, Bumble Bee

index 19
Major Upsets
"Tougher than we look, and with the win record to prove it."
Flail, razor guy, Insult to Injury V

index 20
Ministry of Falling Objects
"Go stand on that target over there..."
Six Ball, Gauntlet, Vetearn Destroyer

index 21
Up, Up, and Away
"Get ready for some serious hangtime."
micro vulcan, Flippy Doodle, No Hype 5

index 22
Unsavory Characters
"You don't want to run into these guys in a dark alley at night."
Devil's_PlayGround, Forge Spin, Shadow Tyrant

index 23
Ramming Speed Robotics
"If brute force doesn't work, you just need more of it!"
DDR, Spike, 'Eavy Metal Boi

index 24
The Best Defense
"And you know the rest."
Tech Support, TWERKYULATE YOSELF!, Mace in da face

index 25
Team Facepalm
"My face.  Your palm.  Go ahead, try it."
Ding Dong Armadillo, Centapead, Hellbringer

index 26
Uplifting Designs
"Uplifting for both of us.  Me figuratively, you literally!"
Peep, Gravity Well, Red Radar

index 27
Evil, Inc.
"The Inc is for Incarnate."
Antichrist V.1, Black Knight, Anti-Christ V.Pincer

index 28
Real Robotics
"Real life is the only arena that matters."
Rising Sun, Smash Gold SE, Three Kings

index 29
Flaming Laser Ninja Speed
"We're like ninjas... made out of laser... on fire!"
Little Falcon, Consonant, Acupuncture

index 30
Kinetic Energies
"Using KE to KO."
My Playstation Gone Wild, Vowel, Chernobyl

index 31
Team Revenge
"For every bot of ours you scratch, we will destroy ten of yours."
Manhax, Big Flip's Revenge, Revenge Of Dr. Wham

index 32
Cutting-Wedge Technology
"All the latest in wedge-based cutting up of bots."
Harmless, Do Geese See God?, PitA 8

index 33
Team Unbreakable
"You'd be better off running headlong into a brick wall."
Aggression, I Did Roll, Or Did I?, Dark July

index 34
All-Around Dangerous
"More spines than porcupine with piercings."
Tempus Fugit 2007, gears your lever, the black plague

index 35
Three Blind Mice
"We're blind because we accidentally poked our eyes out.  You will be because we did it on purpose."
Tornado Jr., The Fang Brothers, Stratocaster

index 36
Under the Influence
"We're not really *hic* drunk, we just drive like it *hic* to throw you off."
New Catfish 3, Shock Therapy, Cocytus IV

index 37
Team Rolling Thunder
"By the time you hear the thunder, we'll already be gone."
Flame, Juggernaut Mk. 3, Blood Shed

index 38
Generic Team
"We don't think outside the box... we ARE the box!"
ECO Jr., Triple Play, Generic Rammer

index 39
Team Shave and a Haircut
"Two bits!"
RazorCutter, Gut Ripper 2, Oscillation Overthruster

index 40
Sunshine Valley Asylum
"We apologize in advance.  The voices say that you must die."
Mr. Fluffy, grinnin face, The Baby Warrior

index 41
The Island of Misfit Bots
"Some bots that don't quite seem to fit anywhere.  We'll gladly take the winner's podium, though."
Mini Cutman, Red Star LW, SandStorm

index 42
Wild Animals
"Nature does not abide by your silly set of rules."
Sting of the Scorpion
MInisarous (never before seen LW HS from Sage)
Black Cat Magic

index 43
Team Fatal Error
"Your bot has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience."
Dense (never before seen early version of Dense2)
Wildcard (never before seen MW cheaty glitch bot from eFFeeMMe)
Copyright Infringement 0 (never before seen early version of Copyright Infringement)

index 44
The Bomb Shelter
"In case of an emergency, give up and die, because no bot is getting past this armor."
Bio Quad 0 (never before seen early version of Bio Quad)
TyranT (never before seen early version of Shadow Tyrant)
Core Blow v4 (never before... well actually he's posted it in his showcase, so seen HW from Oggie)

index 45
Team Slow and Steady
"Success is a journey, not a destination.  So stop running."
DDR 0 (never before seen early version of DDR)
Antichrist V.666 (never before seen early version of Anti-Christ V.Pincer)
ArrowHead_2a (never before seen HW HS from Madiaba)

index 46
Even Odds
"Flip a bot.  Heads, I win; tails, you lose."
KPH (never before seen LW flipper from MrPineapple)
RTF Jr. (never before seen LW popup from Sorrow)
The Unforgiven (never before seen HW popup from shadow54)

index 47
Mauler Dance Crew
"You ain't never seen dancing like this!"
Rising Sun 0 (never before seen early version of Rising Sun)
Berries and Cream 343 (sometime before seen LW HS from kill343gs)
Oscillation Overthruster 0 (never before seen early version of Oscillation Overthruster)

index 48
Team Twisted
"Familiar bot designs... with just a little twist."
DarkBlade 0 (never before seen early version of DarkBlade 1.0)
Devil's-PlayGround (never before seen update to Devil's_PlayGround that was sent too late)
Acupuncture 0 (never before seen early version of Acupuncture)

index 49
Team Bottom of the Barrel
"When you're at rock bottom... the only place left to go is up!"
Flippabop (never before seen LW... thing... from razer.  Yes, that is the guy who made SFTW.  And yes, it is possible to make a bot worse than SFTW.)
flyo (never before seen HW piston flier from dumpotrp54)
strobe lights (never before seen HW VS from ianh05)

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Chatterbox / Good pictures

« on: September 07, 2009, 01:31:56 AM »

OMG I WAS RIGHT. IT IS A DUNG BEETLE!

Not necessarily.

http://bugguide.net/node/view/62328/bgpage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/169935/bgpage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/246630/bgpage

All of those look similar too.  (Though, Naryar's beetle being from France, it is almost certainly a different species.)

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Tournament Archives / N00b warz

« on: September 07, 2009, 01:14:26 AM »

Also, there was a heavyweight or middleweight VS in Battlebots that had flailing weapons too.

Greenspan?  That one looked like it might have little flails from the way it fought, but I couldn't find any good pics to be certain.

ANYWAYS.  The point is, flail spinners do exist in real life.  We should stop flooding the N00b Warz thread now.

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Chatterbox / Good pictures

« on: September 06, 2009, 11:20:26 PM »

MOAR BEETLES

(Image removed from quote.)

I know what it isn't (Not a scarab neither a carabid - too slow), but not what it is...

Could be a darkling beetle (family Tenebrionidae).  Possibly one of the ironclad beetles in that family; they're characterized by having fused elytra (wing cases) and very hard bodies.  But I'm not sure.  The pic is a little blurry.

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Discussion / Spin robots Out of the Arena?

« on: September 06, 2009, 10:47:33 PM »

That last match I linked to has Mako in it.

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DSL TC Showcases / Naryar's DSL freaks

« on: September 06, 2009, 10:32:11 PM »

That bot does indeed look much better than Peer Pressure.  But does it still act as a crusher?  I'm not sure how well crushing would work on a skirt hinge...

Also, Peer Pressure still looks cooler

Is it just me or are the perms uneven?

At least the bot's creative. :D

It's just you.

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Stock Showcases / Pwnator's Stock Showcase

« on: September 06, 2009, 09:16:42 PM »

Cool and original bot (Mercenary).  But those plows are doing very little good there--the wheels and Snappers and chassis are still exposed.  They would be much better about 20 or 40cm further forward.  They would also protect the pistons there too.  Maybe take off some of those blades on the wedges?  I see you have two stacked.

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Discussion / Spin robots Out of the Arena?

« on: September 06, 2009, 09:05:18 PM »

You can try copying some of these bots:





The important thing is having a wedge, so all the force of the weapon is directed into flinging the other bot upward, instead of pushing forward.

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Tournament Archives / N00b warz

« on: September 06, 2009, 08:22:08 PM »

flail spinners will not be allowed, because they are not ever implemented in real life.

Also for the record, there is a SHW called Stump Grinder that has a horizontal spinning bar with flailing ends.  Looks kind of like a green Tombstone with flails.  Then there was another SHW called Thresher that had dual vertical spinning bars with flails.  I saw them both compete at Mechwars.

Then there was Scrap Daddy Surplus in Battlebots that totally should have beaten Wedge of Doom--it was a SnS with a ball and chain.

So they're rare, but they DO exist in real life.

Edit:  Oh, and also there was one version of Tortoise (a SHW shell spinner in Battlebots) that had flails.

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Stock Showcases / Kill343gs's Comeback Tour

« on: September 06, 2009, 12:47:54 AM »

Switching to plastic will not get you 14 kgs.  You might be able to make the hammer arms 20cm longer, but 6 razors is out of the question.

I would say go with plastic if it's better with longer arms though.  If a bot hits the chassis from the front, it means the weapon is gone and you're dead anyway and having DSA won't matter, and if a wedge gets under you, you're also dead anyway and having DSA won't matter.

I like both of those bots.  Quite original.  What's the spiked club for on the MW?

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Discussion / How do you make a decent Hammer bot?

« on: September 06, 2009, 12:35:53 AM »

What's important:

-Wedges, like everyone already said.
-Low center of gravity.  The bigger and heavier your hammer, the wider and longer your bot has to be to keep it stable.
-Trapping capabilities.  There are two parts to this.  One, you need a broad V-shaped front to keep bots from slipping to the side.  And two, you need some kind of overhead stopper to keep bots from climbing up the front of the bot and hitting the hammer arm.
-Good armor.  Since the front of hammer bots is usually neither wedged nor protected by the weapon, it needs extra protection.

There are exceptions to those rules, of course, but generally that's what you want on a hammer bot.  For instance, if you're using a light hammer as a secondary weapon in addition to ram spikes or somesuch (Vetearn Destroyer is a good example) then wedges and trapping capabilities aren't as important.

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Discussion / Botfile Stacking

« on: September 06, 2009, 12:20:50 AM »

I think you lose if just one of the chassises is KO'd, though.  It's not like using another bot as armor like Symbiote does.

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Discussion / Botfile Stacking

« on: September 06, 2009, 12:07:24 AM »

I will admit that using .bot file editing to stack 2 Supervolts is reasonable.

The problem is that it's a slippery slope.  There is a TON of stuff you can stack with enough time and a lot of patience.  As Sage said, apparently someone, somewhere made a bot with 3 Supervolts and a control board all stacked.  But that happens so rarely that it's effectively impossible.  However, by legalizing .bot file editing, you open the floodgates to that kind of stacking in any old bot, because it is proven to be possible to do in the bot lab.

Similarly, it is probably possible, in theory, to stack a Nifty, a control board, and 4 baseplate anchors in a chassis just big enough for a Nifty.  But it's so hard that nobody would ever do it, except with .bot file editing.

If somebody wants to allow .bot file editing in their tournament that's their business.  It could actually make for some interesting designs.  But it should never be accepted as the standard for bot building, nor will I ever allow it in BBEANS.  For bots with stacked Supervolts I'll just have to trust the builder's honesty, but I will get a little suspicious if I get something like the above mentioned examples.

Oh, and

i wonder if u botfile edit you can make 2 chassis on 1 bot.

You can.  The second chassis has to be a crawler though, since magic mobility only applies to the first chassis.  And there were some other slight problems that I don't remember right now.  It's a bit messy but it works.

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Tournament Archives / N00b warz

« on: September 05, 2009, 11:30:46 PM »

Reier, use apanx's exporter for finding out the names of custom parts.  Then you can edit the .bot file to replace them with stock parts.  I've gotten a few bots for BBEANS where I needed to do that.  As long as the custom parts use the same gmf as stock parts, there's no problem.

Darn! I was about to do that this December. Oh well, gotta tweak the rules for now. XD

Go on ahead, if you were going to do a tournament like that.  It's not like I'll get around to it within the next two years anyway.  Besides, I still have other tournament ideas for after BBEANS6.  AW's and BW's, for instance.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention "No DSA" as part of the Classic Bots rules.  That should be an important one.  Titanium and steel, here we come!

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Tournament Archives / Micro Mayhem - Brackets and Match Videos

« on: September 05, 2009, 11:10:51 PM »

Yay, I  survived.  I've entered plenty of original-but-not-really-competitive bots in tournaments lately; I'm ready for a few wins now with 86...

I must say I was impressed with Get Hammered.  That bot packs a punch; if only it was more stable it would be a serious threat.  In any case, I think it might have been able to beat Karrot Krammer if 86 didn't interfere.

And Longhorn losing in the first round?  Inconceivable!