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« on: October 24, 2016, 08:10:39 AM »
2 more matches up
My bot actually won something?!
Before knowing that Kurt's bot is such a tank, I would've judged Redace's to be the hardest to beat for mine since it had a hammer that was positioned perfectly to break the weapon off.
Suprisingly, my bot managed to flank from the side and stay out of danger, a bit disappointed with the weapon performance however, expected it to grind away the chassis more(it definitely did better in testing, then again the fights went two ways there, either it would be a exchange of heavy blows or bots getting stuck like that), might make it a flywheel and spin it in the wrong direction to annoy Craaig slowly grind away the armor without getting stuck or put them on axle mounts instead next time.
Let's see, Tropical Resort with an extra beat at the beginning? No, anime girl resort. Need this now.
Sad to see Conraaa's bot go out like that, fighting his bot would've been a great fight(maybe as a grudge match) and I think a similar fate will happen to my bot(either that or getting flipped over into the position where it can't self right from), not like it would matter since I wouldn't have a chance against Kurt's tankbot, never knew that the armor would be so strong, maybe it's just the fact that the blades don't hit once stuck, but I could've sworn they did that during testing, and I never had IF modified(or is my IF copy outdated and has them with some kind of frequency effect?)
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« on: October 24, 2016, 07:48:53 AM »
eh, remove the pink extenders that are close to the ground on the wedge ?
i don't like the look of that 
Switch to plastic armor to get some more weight and make the hammer part longer(alternatively downgrade some of the extenders)? Also why is Wen in the picture
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« on: October 24, 2016, 07:46:15 AM »
Finale: Hypershocked is actually in it, despite it's terrible performance, what a surprise. Let's see the battle...(for some reason the Killalot claws had really dark light inside the arena)
Looking at Green Arrow and Hypershocked in the arena, it suddenly didn't seem as easy for the weak chassis to get hit, however getting flipped would mean trouble.
Green Arrow attacking the armor, that's alright
Part of the wedge is lost, that works.
0:52 it actually got a pin! now how long's that going to last?
0:56 your usual RA2 AI nonsense
The clamp misfiring is good as it can cause the other bot to shake a bit, allowing the spike strips to get under
1:22 it actually got under it!
Personally I would've liked it more if Green Arrow got a chance to drive away instead of being pinned(and a victory by pinning would've been kinda cheap but luckily the battle was finished just before that.), so I guess after all those Wildcards Hypershocked finally gave everyone a battle that was somewhat worth the time?
Seeing the wheel get removed like that was odd, didn't know if that was possible without clipping glitches since the chassis usually seems to still protect the stuff inside it, even if it's bent, maybe the angle?
Was surprising to see the victory, and from this point I knew I'd be runner up
Spinneroo Mate vs Deathstalker
Whoever would get to fight my bot would win and definitely deserved to win this tournament as they were both great bots. The question now was if the axe of Deathstalker was long enough to hit.
I was surprised to see Spinneroo Mate continue spinning after the ring was removed, didn't know that it's weapons were attached to that center disc(and found that a bit cheap), overall I think Deathstalker got screwed out of winning this one and should've had it.
Spinneroo vs Shocked
This is going to be a repeat of the last battle, isn't it? I guess if the spike wedges were better(and if I bothered to actually add front armor) I could've gone a bit further here, maybe adding a small spinner killer wedge isn't a bad idea, since only having the top part act as hammer works well against ring spinners, but a well deserved win to Rob, congratulations, now if only the battle against Deathstalker was better.
Deathstalker vs Green Arrow
Was a nice fight until Deathstalker's axe got stuck and it didn't try to self right anymore? Dunno what happened there but I think it got screwed out of victory again.
This was a nice tournament, I loved the presentation as well as the bots, some really great entries here and I wouldn't mind if those were released as AI pack. Spinneroo Mate was having the chassis texture glitch, don't think that was there before but there's a simple way to fix that, open up ra2.cfg and set graphicdetail=0, this gives you the HD graphics with the low level chassis rendnering(don't worry it doesn't look bad, it rendners textures right every time and is required for trov chassis glitch bots) I found it very nice that you posted the tracks in the YT description later on. Deathstalker was a nice bot, try to get the Axe length as well as the ground clearance issue fixed and please enter it again, loved it(minus the wedge part on the back, I'm generally not a fan of AI parts like that, also why I'm not too much of a fan of great suisse since it's a simple bot with mostly AI parts, but it's still a nice concept) Don't know what was up with everyone wanting to see Hypershocked so far, guess some wanted it to get up to the finale and then win, making everyone wonder "that bot who should've been out earlier got voted so far and now won that thing?" conspiracy theories... you can find them in the GTM Discord  just open the bot and flip the e-tek boi
Or alternatively port over the old Etek and bfe the bot to use that ported over Etek, but editing it is probably easier :P
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« on: October 23, 2016, 06:15:46 AM »
Would try to get the wedges lower so they actually work as wedges and maybe replace the multiextender with a regular round one? Drum like Angled VS isn't something you see every day definitely looks nice.
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« on: October 23, 2016, 05:51:02 AM »
It was a bit odd to see the bots change positions for the next fight
old school bbeans tradition man
I dont' think it happened for the other fight :P
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« on: October 23, 2016, 05:20:57 AM »
oh dang Termite actually won a fight
Same for Hypershocked, was surprised that it lasted the 3 minutes since it can easily run out of batteries if the Clamp gets spammed.
Termite caused a good bit of destruction, then again I've heard that ant blades are basically the razors of DSL 2.2?
Is Battle Breaker really using a switch? I thought it really needed to be a button in order for the AI to detect it, but I guess it's just the control name that gets searched(and since a button command(dunno why a button is used, does it allow for faster speed or was that just something carried over form Stock AI?) is made to be pressed while a switch only needs to be turned on once, they don't fully work like that) Guess Wakkydude can be happy now as his bot appeared in a fight like it was originally intended to be. I'm surprised to see that Hypershocked got that many votes(thought that it was out this time for sure), in case it wasn't already obvious, it's really the Spinner of the West of this tournament(which is most likely the reason it got that many votes, that or people really want to mess around with Gulden). I knew that it would most likely not win any match(unless it would be facing bots with chassis armor) since it's weapon is so ineffective(also low battery life if spammed), but I still wanted to enter it for GTM RW for entertainment, because who wouldn't like to see a bot getting taken apart like that?(Not really a reason why I watch Robot Combat, I prefer the strategic control matches more, called "boring pushing matches" by most, althrough those can still be nice once in a while) as long as DSL doesn't want to havok or slow down(happened once in a while, it only seemed to happen against the replica MechaV, not against normal bots?), which luckily didn't happen in this Tournament, at least not until the matches were over :P that's completely fine. I did notice some of the bot flaws after entering it for GTM RW, so I tried to update it for Wildcard Rally but didn't have all the time required(as such battery life is still low and there isn't any front/top protection) also didn't notice until now that the Spike Strips wouldn't work well as wedges at all(might have to check what's causing it). Green Arrow should have this(also were the matches done like that on purpose? That's the second grudge match that happens in the main competition now), bigger range with a overhead hammer as well as better armor protection.
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« on: October 22, 2016, 09:32:58 AM »
Good job Thrack
Wait no, now I'm up against Kurt again(a match I can't win thanks to Flamethrower Tank nonsense) if I manage to win a few rounds(which might not even happen)
Ugh, why this song?
Thanks Geice, we didn't need a Steel Donut in this.
It was a bit odd to see the bots change positions for the next fight, nice that the skins finally got fixed.
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« on: October 21, 2016, 10:36:41 AM »
Hopefully it's still like the first Overdozer. I like the amateur feel to it.
I have a feeling that's why they're announcing stuff late like that as well, but it doesn't fully work out and will just lead to low reliability on the bots.
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« on: October 21, 2016, 10:16:12 AM »
l8r I'm going back to my home planet
I must go now, my planet needs me. Also still a better story than that ****ing wall.
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« on: October 21, 2016, 10:01:03 AM »
I once did about testing out a new IRL building style for my mod
???
You keep mentioning this mod but you've never released a singe component or mod for RA2. Can you even AI?
Pretty sure I once talked about it in the GTM Discord and how this is all just a concept so far(so yeah go ahead and say whatever you want since it doesn't exist and "oh another user that just talks nonsense and doesn't do anything to prove it", even through I made sure that plenty of things could actually be done that way), mentioned that I'd wait for Serge to do his RA2 blender suite and hopefully do it with that(so I don't have to do this over 3ds max which I have little knowledge of and would need to be run in a Virtual Machine, also let's not forget license costs if I wanted to do this properly) Since said tools don't exist yet, I can't do the mod of course, and even once they do, I doubt that this mod would ever be made as my interest in RA2 has been dropping, that's why I mentioned that I can't guarantee that everything will ever be done for it. I did talk about more details with certain members, however I wouldn't want to share any of that, because it would just leave to the above mentioned situation as plenty of GTM is "pics or it didn't happen", so yeah you can simply ignore it. Also that building style, together with a second one, was planned to be the main one for the mod, don't think a building style rule(like DSL-S or IRL) directly needs a mod in order to be made, neither can concepts, they can exist independently from a mod. It's not something I came up with as well, it existed way before that, but imagine having a entire mod/tournament that only has bots built that way. And yeah I can AI ^^ just rarely do it for Tournaments since I'm usually so low on time. Did AI my bot for Hi5er's tournament and I do think I sent you a AI line for my bot Your Best Dream in the people's choice, did I not?
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« on: October 21, 2016, 06:44:28 AM »
Thoughts: AI nonsense happened in all matches, the AI driving up the other bot instead of going back and under it, wish we'd have more advanced AI.
Green Arrow worked really well, good clamp setup, now if there was only a way to hide the burst piston better. Nice OOTA throw, apparently it was rather lucky but I wonder if that one could be done more commonly.
Like expected, Spinneroo's close weapon made sure that it hits the chassis, Hypershocked did a good job getting under it and I was surprised to see that Beater ripped off. Now if I only had added a bit of front armor.
Deathstalker was doing well, also either I'm just too used to Mechavore's destruction or Redace is using one of the smaller perms here, good sportsmanship. Deathstalker did well, taking off the wheel and getting some nice hits from the side until the AI decided to derp around. After that it looked like it had some problems with Ground Clearance for some reason(axle glitch?) almost lost to Blizzard but I'm happy that it was able to win that.
Wildcard: Difficult one, I don't really know, feel like giving it to Blizzard would give it the win, but will probably vote for it later on.
I vote for Blizzard to go through. Badger's robot hasn't really done that well but has at least won some battles while R01's robot has been awful in all of its fights (including the one it won). I'm picking the one that has done well throughout the competition rather than the one who has lucked out constantly.
The bot was never something I expected to win, it was built from a little project that I once did about testing out a new IRL building style for my mod(which might never happen, not like I could start now as I'd require certain tools), the original had a wedge similar to Razorback's 2015 configuration and was mostly made to show how well a bot can fall apart.
Later on I wasn't sure if I'd enter GTM RW but since Craaig was nice and helped me with fixing the Retooled entry for the GTM tournament, I decided to create a new version of Hypershocked. It was mostly untested(as such the weak plastic chassis issue wasn't noticed until later, also had weapon motor drive in GTM RW) and I did notice that it's weapon isn't doing too great/quickly runs out of power as well(having two Mag snappers with only such low movement doesn't use their value and power input well).
Don't know if DSL has messed up hitboxes on the spike strips or if they're simply too steep, but it can't go under bots as well.
So the bot was basically entered for enterainment and I'm surprised how far it got via votes, would be even more surprised if it made it past this round.
To be fair, it couldn't do much in the match against Rambulance because it was pinned by it, personally would've hoped that Rambulance flips it back over and that it could get to the side of the bot(chassis armor without any extra armor pannels on top, might be just enough for the batteries)
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« on: October 20, 2016, 06:45:48 AM »
Exactly the building style that I had in mind for my mod(except with less spaces), lovely bots. Wonder what drive you used for the LW hammer and SNS as well as how you go them so close, how big is the chassis used for those and how do the Thwackers work?
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« on: October 20, 2016, 05:34:16 AM »
Surprising to see Hypershocked get that far, when I quickly checked the thread yesterday I miscounted and got to 4 vs 4 votes on Space Shuttle/Hypershocked. I think it's over on the next match, however I might have a chance of Spinneroo's blade hits the side instead of the front, the top claws could hit the armor and maybe damage it enough that way, that is if the battery power doesn't run out.
The clamp is sadly such a flawed design(but it looks awesome) and in general the bot isn't that combat effective. Once started a second version but I think it still has the same issues, just now with polycarbonate instead of titanium armor. One grudge match I mentioned earlier is Green Arrow vs Hypershocked, so it gets to show it's clamp design off. No idea which loadout will be picked for this fight, Arachnida's front is chassis armor so the Clamp Would work, at the same time however that would mean that the back of Green Arrow could easily be hit by that Frenzy Hammer, the defender/deflector would have other disadvantages, then again the Clamp design would also be able to lift. As for the earlier mentioned grudge match, it depends on how much time you have and if you have a limit on matches, if any of those two are an issue, then not, else I wouldn't mind a second fight even if I think Blizzard will easily get a second win(the grudge match idea was never to win but to show how destroyed the bot could get)
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« on: October 19, 2016, 05:58:08 AM »
For some reason I thought that this would still be double elimination, but I'm fine with that. Congratulations to the winners.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 03:14:02 AM »
Some nice looking bots, however a lot of bar spinners at the same time.
Mobility as Strenght?! But it uses weapon motor drive, well guess there was nothing else.
The robots in Heat D do seem to be possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in Round 1 already.
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« on: October 17, 2016, 04:16:54 PM »
Oh so it's finally up. Hope it can still get done in time.
So that's what Redace and 090901's bots were made for.
The first version of Snowy did very well in testing, outwedging everything, however during the different versions the wedge got worse somehow to the point where even the very first one didn't have any good one.
Think a version also had the Flamethrowers completely inside the bot but that was changed so they have a better fire angle(the hitbox for flames seems to be smaller than the actual projectile), big thanks to apanx for the better AI file which makes sure that it won't get hit sideways while waiting for the other bot to get counted out.
Because the wedges are such a mess now(as well as most bots having great side protection), I doubt that this bot will get far, also the N12's look rather slim here for some reason.
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« on: October 17, 2016, 04:14:09 PM »
Didn't know Emergency was THAT heavy, then again it's steel(at least double layer)
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« on: October 17, 2016, 04:05:29 PM »
Wonder where you got that multi configuration on the Stiltbot from.
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« on: October 17, 2016, 05:20:39 AM »
Wait, what? Saw a new Wild Card Rally video and wanted to check what's going on, didn't expect this drama. Please tell me this is a joke...
I have no idea what happened in Banter Wars but it's odd seeing this. I do remember Wakky talking about wanting to do a undercutter while the bot shown clearly wasn't, thought that his design just didn't work out and as such he entered that instead. Don't think it would've changed much on the combat performance. In one way I can understand Wakky, people nowadays just seem to be like that "No I didn't enter that bot, why would I enter that low quality nonsense, this doesn't show what I built", but I'd still be happy that my bot was even in this, and  even with such mistakes, people would be able to understand what happened and not judge the bot too much, , quite a lot of my entries were rushed and I thought it's still better to enter them. This can cause such a big drama while the AI.py change(Badger's Clone Clash) doesn't? :P especially so late on. And don't overwrite anything, the 2.2 download is the full game, nothing to be pasted over with anything
Except a few of the community fixes like the oil rig arena. Ok yeah I'm totally leaning on it being a .gmf issue since the skin on Gulden's E-tek is the one from DSL 2.0 (The E-tek is different in DSL 2.0 from the one in 2.1), so I'm guessing Gulden just downloaded 2.0 and put 2.2 over it and never patched it with 2.1, which has the updated E-tek. (Or he didn't overwrite files when he installed 2.1 if he did)
So yeah, Gulden didn't try to screw you up in anyway, and this all could have been solved from the start if you actually said something back then.
And Gulden, go DL the full version of DSL 2.2 so issues like this can't happen again if you host another tourney.
I didn't know DSL 2.0 was a thing(are there still DLs for that), good eyes on noticing that, wonder if it's just a certain AP that got swapped, because Rambulance's drive was fine. With that out of the way, I think you're doing a very good job as tournament host and this has been one of my favorite tournaments so far. Battles: Termite was sadly just way too bouncy, maybe because of DSL's axles
Like expected, Rambulance couldn't OOTA Spinneroo, good that this Wildcard got to continue.
Space Shuttle got unlucky
My bot couldn't take on a hammer like expected, also didn't know that the front of Badger's bot was actually chassis armor.
It's an issue that I sadly noticed too late after entering the bot in GTM RW, wanted to add some polycarb armor plates to the front and top but sadly never got the time to do so.
Green Arrow suddenly seemed to lack power, again sad to see it go out that way. Don't think I've ever seen a bot take off a wheel like that, bar must've glitched inside the chassis.
Wildcards: Also if Green Arrow doesn't get to use it's clamp loadout then you could do a bonus match at the end of the series against my bot, it'll probably win because of how weak my top armor is but it might be still fun to watch.
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« on: October 17, 2016, 05:08:24 AM »
Its so weird seeing all these quotes from me when I didnt write any of that lol
Yeah, and it's also weird to see that new rule in place.
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