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1821
« on: January 03, 2010, 02:24:59 PM »
this is very NSFW
what do twigs and penises both have in common?
the[y']re round
the[y']re long
the[y] stick straight up
they will brush people[']s legs
and when you walk by the really hairy ones, they stick to you and don't stop
I don't think I've ever seen a hairy twig, nor have I ever had a hairy penis get stuck to me. For that to happen, I think the dude would have to lube himself with super glue.
1822
« on: January 03, 2010, 02:14:38 PM »
I played it way back in the days before RA2. The lack of physics pretty much made it an awkward 3D fighter.
1823
« on: January 02, 2010, 08:26:10 PM »
Metal and prog rock are my favorites. Hard rock and the '90s alt rock scene was also good.
1824
« on: December 31, 2009, 03:11:51 AM »
It's not really good to influence clueless people like that....
meh
1825
« on: December 30, 2009, 11:52:24 PM »
Since I am in middle school, I am stuck doing homework.
Since you're in middle school, your grades don't actually matter.
1826
« on: December 30, 2009, 06:45:10 PM »
Play Risk,
Nice! This year, some friends and I are having a New Years/X-Mas party. There will be white elephant gifts, booze, Rock Band, Guitar Hero (5 and Metallica), and possibly some Wario Ware. I'm also planning on making some chocolates, cookies, and maybe some eggnog (with bourbon, of course).
1827
« on: December 30, 2009, 02:36:26 PM »
Who's Frezel?
He's my cousin, Frezel McFrezalton.
1828
« on: December 29, 2009, 09:16:09 PM »
I'm not quite sure what we are arguing anymore. Is it that you, frezal, should refrain from swearing, why swearing is offensive, or what? I was really hoping to read why these words offend you on a personal level. Unfortunately, it seems as though you oppose these words simply because the authority figures in your life say that they're forbidden. What it comes down to is how you want people to look at you. If a hardcore church-goer see's you swearing, they think of you as sinful. The opinions of hardcore church-goers don't matter to me. I view them as primitive people, but that's another debate. If you were to start swearing your head off in this debate, people would see you as not in control and easily angered. It doesn't take swear words to appear as though you're not in control. You may have been to young to remember this, but in the 2004 democratic primaries, Howard Dean was favored to win. Then he made the mistake doing what is now known as the "Dean Scream". No, he didn't "curse". He let out a noise that is not in any known language. After that, people viewed him as hot-headed. So I contend that it's not necessarily the word choice, but how the words are used. (Or non-words, in Howard Dean's case.) If a parent or elder sees you they think of you as impudent with little respect. And I would view them as a hypocrite as they most likely "swear" as well. However, I agree with your point that you can swear if you want. It just comes down to how you want to present yourself. Those who wish to judge me based entirely on arbitrary rules are not the kind of people I care about.
1829
« on: December 29, 2009, 04:08:38 PM »
Frezal is winning 
While that is certainly flattering to hear...er..read, it sort of detracts from an otherwise intelligent conversation. It can cause the affirmative side to get riled up and make logical or other mistakes.
1830
« on: December 29, 2009, 03:11:25 PM »
It's like a bad habit. Swearing is definitely becoming more and more commonplace, but it will take a very long time for it to be accepted as normal, formal, and casual conversation by everyone. Because, of course, there are still many people who belong to a church. Formal and casual conversation languages are completely different. For instance, describing something as "cool" when not referring to temperature is not at all formal. It is, however, in the casual parlance. Due to your age, I assume that you haven't spent much time, if any, on a college campus. Casual conversations are flooded with "****"s, "sh**"s, "bitch"es, "ass"es, "damn"s, etc. Even professors use these words in their lectures. So while authority figures may still be trying to keep kids down, in the real world, nobody really cares (aside from fundamentalists). The reason you swear is because you see no reason against it, and because you like the words better. However, there ARE still some people who find it offensive, and I think you should respect that. I will alter my speech patterns if one of two conditions are met: 1) Convincingly tell me why the words shouldn't be said. Included in this condition should be why they are offensive. 2) Agree to not use an arbitrary list of words of my choosing. While I do not wish to censor anyone, this option would, at the very list, level the playing field. Their reason: because that's the way they were taught by their parents, who were taught by their parents, go back like 10 generations, who were taught by the church. I wouldn't accept that excuse for other things such as why somebody is racist, so why should I accept that excuse here? If you don't break the pattern of stupidity, you are just as guilty as those before you. Until that way of thinking dies down completely, respect those who still think like that, even if they are wrong in your opinion. If they meet one of two conditions, I will gladly censor myself. Eventually someone in their family will have the same thoughts as you, with or without your help.
That's not good enough. That is why slavery wasn't outlawed until Lincoln. They felt as though it was dying out, and that eventually it would just go away. Well, that didn't happen. It took action (albeit from a bit of a tyrant) to bring it to an end. I don't see the contradiction, by the way. Changing my views after a considerable amount of thinking is consistent for me.
1831
« on: December 29, 2009, 03:49:03 AM »
What I mean was swearing was just taboo, and everyone came to accept that. Marriage laws actually brought down the hammer and said people couldn't do things. People all over followed the church, and if it believed some words were sinful, then that's what the people came to accept. Over time they were just taboo without thinking that it had a connection to the church, which is where we are now. Which brings us back to the "why". Why continue to consider these words taboo if the reasons are no longer relevant? Well, again we get into the synonym debate. It gets back into levels of meaning. Saying "Oh crap" is like saying "darn", while saying "oh sh**" is like saying "damn". Both are expletives, but one has more emotion in it than the other. It is an "obscene" amount of anger, surprise, or pain. That's my thinking, at least. Is "damn" considered obscene? One of the most famous lines in movie history contains the word "damn"! ("Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."-- Gone with the Wind.) In any case, if obscenity is directly proportional to intensity, why aren't the more intense forms of other words considered taboo? Well unfortunately for him, most teenage parents are like that nowadays. Just because the bulk of parents are hypocrites, that doesn't make their position right. See, he wasn't running for presidency.
I didn't say that. I'm thinking it was during the 2000 primaries. Of course, I was only 12 back then. When I was your age, I held the same position on "bad" words. I absolutely didn't say them, and got upset at those who did. As I got older, I started to think about things more; I started to question why things are the way they are. The more I thought about life, the more I realized just how much of society is based on completely arbitrary rules. There is no practical reason that I know of to not use the words in question. The objections to them are completely arbitrary, and as pointed out by you, were created by the church in an attempt to control primitive people. So I ask, why continue to perpetuate this archaic nonsense? Even if the churches still maintained that these words were cursed, how does that affect me? Why should I be required to obey by the rules of bronze age myths that I don't believe in?
1832
« on: December 29, 2009, 12:47:15 AM »
Yes, but that wasn't integrated into society. That was the church exercising its power. Swearing will become less offensive as time goes on, but it will be a slow process, and for now the thoughts of the old days still ring true in our society. Mixed race couples was very much integrated into society. There are even isolated cases of mixed race couples being denied a marriage licenses now. How do we combat pointless societal rules? Stop enforcing them. Change doesn't just happen; it requires action. Yes, but that isn't obscene slang. The synonyms are not vulgar. Awesome, a synonym, is OK. The synonym for sh**, however, is a horribly disgusting pile of feces that brings a bad image to ones head. But one can say, "Poop," "Crap," and, "Feces," without people like you objecting. So what makes a word obscene? (I'm talking on more of a philosophical level here.) That's true, you don't know them. The answer is no. Sad. You, being 21, have a completely different relationship with your friends' parents than me, being 15. Therefore, you can't compare. That is true. It becomes my friend's problem when he gets kicked out of the house. If your friend wasn't sexually harassing anybody, it might be best for him to avoid households containing prudes. Was this before or after he was elected? Was this broadcasted nationally on TV? Also, does anyone have any respect for Dick Cheney?
Based off his appearance, I believe the Bush thing happened while he was still Gov. Bush. As for Cheney, that was during the first term, if memory serves correct. As for respect, Cheney still has credibility amongst the neo-cons.
1833
« on: December 28, 2009, 10:45:55 PM »
My apologies for the delay. In real life, I'm planning a New Year's party, so I'm a bit scatterbrained at the moment. (More so than usual.) How can you tell this? Because he does not agree with you? I wasn't telling the kid that everything he believed was a joke. I don't know enough about the guy to know what he believes. What I was doing was making a hypothetical example. Nobody does a wholesale ban on attacking one's personal beliefs, but many do so with an arbitrary set of words. Why? I could be mean and vulgar and stoop to your level with personal insults, but I haven't. I think you wouldn't like it if someone else insulted you, why should you insult someone else? Yet you don't have a wholesale ban on insults, which, by definition, are actually offensive. Ok, then how about why do you use swear words? Why do you use the words you use? I use words, in general, for effect, for accuracy, and because I like the way they sound. If in your opinion they're all the same, why don't you just be nice to the guy who thinks one is worse than the other and say the "non-offensive" one? If I'm expected to change my vocabulary in an attempt to not use words you don't like, you must do the same for me. I can assure you, my list of words would be much longer and as equally arbitrary. In addition, if you really did think they were the same, you would use them interchangeably. I have not seen you do that. To be honest, I do not think you really believe this. This is just an excuse to swear.
I do use the words interchangeably. For instance, I don't usually say, "Ah, sh**!" I much prefer, "Ah, crap!" To me, it sounds better that way. Maybe it's because I grew up with The Simpsons.
1834
« on: December 28, 2009, 10:18:45 PM »
Swearing is offensive because of the church a long time ago. Back then, the church had influence over almost every aspect of society. And they believe that some words were not acceptable because they were sinful. Anything sexual was sinful (ever heard of nuns?), and anything that went against the religion or used the lords name in vain (God damn, Jesus christ, etc...). The church also prevented people of different races from dating, but you don't see the bulk of society keeping that one alive. The other category of swearing lies in the slang words of society. Slang, in it's definition, is an extremely informal way of speaking. This is why my principal and my mother and a ton of other people think that swearing is offensive and disrespectful. Do you think formality is a complete joke? Should everyone go around wearing tattered clothing, drunk, and swearing like a sailor? That is the kind of thing formality prevents. Slang terms are just informal synonyms of other things. Calling things you like "cool" is also slang. If it's formality that bugs your mother and "a ton of other people", do they smack you when you say, "That's cool!"? If I were to sub my toe in front of my friend's parents and yell F_UCCCKKKKKKK!!! what do you think they would think of me? I don't know your friend's parents, so how could I possibly know the answer to that question? DO you think they would invite me back into their house? My friends' parents allow me in their house all the time and I don't censor myself. So if your friends' parents aren't complete prudes, they should have no problem with you exercising your vocabulary. Just the other day I was at a friends house and another kid came over. After a while, my friend's mom sent him home because he was being too course and swearing, as well as using sexual terms repetitively and obscenely. I don't want that to happen, which is why I try to refrain from swearing in front of other people as much as I can. People should be able to talk about sex all they want (so long as they're not sexually harassing anybody). Whether or not your friend's mom agrees is her problem. I have never seen a public speech by Bush where he swore. That's what I was talking about, public speeches. I could care less what they said in casual conversation, cause that's not broadcasted over the entire country. I said a president would not be elected if he swore in public speeches. I stand by that. Unless you can provide a good, legit speech of Bush or someone else swearing their head off in a public speech. I can't find one. Off the top of my head, this video comes to mind: There's also this Dick Cheney gem:http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2004/06/25/cheney-to-leahy-go-fk-yourself.htm If you would like me to actually do some research, I'm sure I could find the time.
1835
« on: December 28, 2009, 02:59:08 PM »
If I were to flip of either my mother or the principal of my school, there would be severe consequences for showing disrespect. If I got flipped off by a little kid, I would punch him in the face for being an annoying brat. But, if he say, waved to me, then that would not happen. So you tell me, why is that? Because you, your mother, and your principal are pricks? You tell me why you guys are offended by it. OK, I still thought we we're talking about the forum. In real life, sure I'll yelp out a cuss word if I stub my toe really hard. Unless there are people around that would care (like my parents, teachers, etc. ) then I just let out guttural sounds of pain and such. Why change what sound you let out based on who's around if just about everyone yells out a "bad" word? Yea, and Bush ruined the country. Like I said, swearing makes a strong speaker and people follow strong speakers. But strong speakers don't always make the right choices. Because they are hot-headed. However, many people in our country don't realize this as much, and this is why he was elected. Swearing didn't make Bush a strong speaker. In fact, he was a terrible speaker who didn't seem to grasp the rules of grammar. Anyways, you asserted that no presidential candidate would get elected if they used "bad" words. He was elected twice. Thus, your assertion doesn't appear to be true. http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/300417
I'd rather not read the opinions expressed on that blag until after this discussion has run its course. I don't want to inadvertently steal any of their ideas. You may feel free to take some of their material, however. Just keep in mind that it's far from a scholarly source.
1836
« on: December 28, 2009, 03:59:19 AM »
Just because you don't care doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. If somebody were to flip you off, would you actually care? Why or why not? Yes, because I can stub my toe on an internet forum. I think it was fairly obvious I was speaking in IRL terms. You say that now, but he wouldn't even have been up for election if there was swearing in his posts. Swearing makes you a strong, passionate, hot-headed speaker who shows that they will fight for what they believe in and don't care at all what other people think, which is fine. However, that is not the kind of person that people want for the president. We need a cool-headed person, that keeps his emotions at bay and has poise and control. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Twice elected. Both known for their use of "bad words" and hot headedness. I've got plenty more examples if you're interested. Yea, everybody loves movies. And Samuel Jackson is a very good actor. However, it is the directors choice whether or not to have swearing in his/her movie, just as it is the choice of the forum administrator to ban swearing. By all means does an administrator have the right and choice to ban swearing. On The Electric Playground forum, I could ban references to puppies. The show's hosts may not like it, but I certainly could. What we're debating (or at least what I thought we were debating) is the merits of certain words. I am genuinely curious as to why people are offended by the words in question. Being offended by racial/ethnic slurs makes sense to me as the definitions are indeed hateful. But being offended by certain words and not their synonyms is baffling. Why does it matter what society arbitrarily decides? Society gets so much sh** wrong. (Segregation, anyone?)
1837
« on: December 27, 2009, 07:42:46 PM »
That is correct. They just are offensive. Why is showing a middle finger offensive? Because we have made it, as a society, that way. From what I hear, it has to do with the archery days. Nevertheless, I couldn't care less about somebody flipping me off. I'm not an archer from the past, so it really doesn't mean anything to me. Same with swear words. There doesn't NEED to be reason if the reality of it is that there are people who think of them as offensive, and nearly everyone looks at people differently depending on if they swear or not. I would wager that nearly everybody uses these words. The next time you stub your toe, jot down what it is that you shout. Would people have voted for Obama if all of his speeches were full of cussing, swearing, and religious or sexual references? I would have actually been excited to vote for him if that had been the case. Instead, my vote was reluctantly given to him. With Sarah Palin appearing on the ballot, I couldn't take any chances. Probably not. He has a controlled manner about him, and that is why he is such a good speaker.
I will counter with Samuel L. Jackson. Everybody loves Samuel L. Jackson. What is he most famous for? His use of language that you disapprove of. As for Reier, I think you misinterpreted my post. I'll try to remember to clarify it later. For now, I have some foods to consume.
1838
« on: December 27, 2009, 07:34:45 PM »
I chose LRA2 because it was hilarious when you guys thought he was me.
1839
« on: December 27, 2009, 03:48:28 PM »
WTF is a French Press? Maybe Nary'll know...
It's a superior type of coffee maker.  Step 1. Dump your coffee grounds into the pot (and a small pinch of salt, if you want a really good cup). Step 2. Pour in your hot water. Step 3. Let is brew for 4-5 minutes. Step 4. Press down on the press and pour yourself a cup of joe!
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« on: December 27, 2009, 03:43:25 PM »
swearing can be a way to tell if a person has no control over their keyboard.
In my opinion, swearing should be a thing you can control. Why would it make a difference if somebody read your post as "**ck you", or "f*** you" either way, the same message is being passed. (I think Frezal mentioned something similar) So why not just take out the post until the person is ready to repost it in a tame way.
I can tell you that everything you believe is a joke, and that is perfectly acceptable. I can say really mean and hateful things while exploiting your weaknesses, and that too would be acceptable. But if I were to say, "F.UCK YOU IN THE NECK!", that would show a lack of control? Why? Nobody has told me a legitimate reason why these words are offensive. All I've received is, "They're offensive because they are."
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