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« on: November 15, 2010, 03:38:44 PM »
^^QFT, THIS, and all that jazz^^
What?
So they don't know what the jazz is all about!! 
1042
« on: November 15, 2010, 03:32:23 PM »
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
1043
« on: November 14, 2010, 09:29:03 PM »
The seaking thing never was or will be funny.
1044
« on: November 14, 2010, 04:06:05 PM »
I never caught on to the whole Pokemon thing too. I always thought it was pretty stupid.
1045
« on: November 14, 2010, 04:04:52 PM »
It got me thinking, what other "4 chords" songs are there?
Anything by Deadmau5. 
1046
« on: November 14, 2010, 03:53:30 PM »
OC - I took a screenshot of this on Facebook some time ago. 
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« on: November 14, 2010, 02:20:21 PM »
Alright, I'll admit I was using troll logic, but you gotta admit, incredirobotwars was asking for it with a post like that.
Still other than the lack of a god, Atheism is still very much like a religion, albeit a loosely organized one. You still have your own beliefs that you hold to with great faith. Sure, you claim to follow only reason and logic, but really, a lot what you believe makes no more sense than anything any other religion believes. And what would some of those "beliefs" be? And really your reason for not believing in God boils down to wanting to claim independence. You don't like the idea of being beholden to something greater than you, so you deny its existence. You'll deny anything that conflicts with your view and you in fact, want religion, as you said "wiped off the face of the earth". So, who sounds extremist now?
Now thats pretty ignorant, I gotta be honest. Saying that atheists are basically "unable to deal with the facts" is a pretty hypocritical statement. It's highly unlikely that any god exists. It's impossible for the god of the religious to exist, simply because it makes no sense. There are so many contradictions with your god. Also, extremist comments warrant extremist answers. But think about it, "wiped off the face of the earth" isn't that much of an extremist answer to begin with. For example, many a species has been "wiped off the face of the earth" through a slow, natural process of extinction. This is hardly an extreme process. Likewise, wiping religion off the face of the earth is probably a process which will happen slowly by convincing each person one by one that it's a load a baloney.
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« on: November 14, 2010, 01:40:40 PM »
Not really, since Athiesm is a religion, the most that will happen is the takeover of a new religion, just like Christianity in Europe during the first and second century A.D. Also, this is now just an argument about who's religion is better, which is one of the things you Athiests seem to dislike about religion. Therefore, there is no point in continuing this discussion. Therefore, my work is done.
Me: 1
Athiests: 0
There is plenty of reasons to continue this discussion. Firstly because you haven't ended the argument like you think you have. Secondly because atheism is NOT a religion, its the state NOT BELIEVING all your crackpot beliefs. Thirdly this isn't a discussion only of who's religion is better, but an argument about whether or not religion is a good thing to begin with. I know you'd very much like to get atheists out of the formula, but declaring that you've won the debate and that it's over before the fact isn't the way to do that. You still haven't provided a valid argument.
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« on: November 14, 2010, 01:17:36 PM »
Find one that suits our tastes? OK...Atheism!
Sweet, I just you to admit that Athiesm is a religion! My work here is done. 
If that's your best counterargument, then religion really is doomed to be wiped off the face of the earth.
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« on: November 13, 2010, 09:33:31 PM »
Besides, scientific studies show that people with religious beliefs are happier on average than those without them
Please show me them, or at least the source of this info.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11392866
It's providing credibility to the saying "Ignorance is bliss." I suppose.
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« on: November 13, 2010, 09:26:47 PM »
Good god every other thread is somebody bitching about something. I'm really getting sick of this. sh** happens, man up and get over it already. Don't try and bring everyone else into your life problems.
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« on: November 12, 2010, 05:35:12 PM »
No one said you HAD to it's just he would like us to.
So it it better to.
Right, so he simply suggests that you do as he'd want you to... ...and if not you can burn in hell for the rest of eternity.
Quite the choice you have there.
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« on: November 12, 2010, 12:40:38 PM »
There is no evidence of a higher being, so why should we believe in it ?
Probably because the idea already existed back then. When people didn't understand the science behind day and night, water cycles, and thunderstorms, they just assumed that these were the actions of a higher being. An idea that's planted in the minds of a whole colony is pretty tough to eradicate. It's kinda like saying 'I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!', even if it was clear that margarine was used. Some people are just too ignorant to acknowledge new scientific breakthroughs.
That, and religion was a good way of keeping people in line. Way back when, the law enforcement systems sucked. So a simple solution was to threaten spending forever in hell, something nobody'd want to do. It was a good thing back then, it kept people from killing each other when nothing else could effectively. Nowadays it's just a bother.
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« on: November 11, 2010, 04:58:12 PM »
Indeed. Anyway, the Catholic church isn't Christian by any means, it just likes to think it is. But, I've already said that, so I'll shut up now.
Thats a load of cow poop (put politely). The very fact that the Catholic Church bases it's teachings on Jesus makes it by definition a Christian church. EDIT: Any reason you deleted it?
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« on: November 11, 2010, 04:47:18 PM »
If you say bad things about Christianity, well...nothing really happens.
I hope you're not implying that because nothing happens as a result of speaking out against Christianity that there is no actions taken by Christians. Every time I've seen people publicly go out against Christianity, they get hit by a tsunami of bitching and moaning courtesy of the Catholic church. In the end, though, nothing much usually happens. It's not that Christians just sit back and "turn the other cheek." They have a method of refuting criticism the wrong way, it's just that their method isn't as effective as the ones you described for the Muslims and Jews. The real reason Christianity is attacked the most is because it's the biggest target. If you dislike organized religion and you're trying to see that people don't join any organized religions, you're not going to ignore the biggest one in the world. That'd just be completely illogical.
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« on: November 11, 2010, 04:12:48 PM »
All right If a Christan speaks out against homosexuality its horrible but if a Muslim does that who cares.
No, it is horrible if either of them do it.
Theres a lot less fussing about it.
If the another belief system want a class for its belief system they'll do it Eg natives belief system is taught but a Christan once it in schools its a very big hassle.
Do you honestly believe that classes on the history and interpretation of Christianity are not found in schools? This is blatantly false.
Over here I have yet to even hear of a public school with a class teaching about Christianity. SS and history teach it in a negative way and or a way to have others think that its something of the past or you don't want to do it.
History classes teach just that - history. If you're religion decided strolling on over to the "holy land" to kill a few thousand infidels was a good idea, it's going to be mentioned. History classes aren't going to re-write what happened just for the sake of portraying it in one religion's point of view. To add to this, if you wanted a class to teach about Christianity, you'd have to have classes about Islam, Hindu, Buddhism, and any other major religions as well. There simply isn't enough time or reasons to teach classes for each religion's part in history.
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« on: November 11, 2010, 12:56:14 PM »
I'm a gnostic atheist myself. Organized religion is, in my opinion, outdated. We have a law system to keep people in order now, and people don't need an organization to tell them what their beliefs ought to be. People should form their own beliefs about the unexplainable. I for one believe that if there is some sort of a god, it has remained uninvolved in the universe since it's beginning. So the fact that Christ teaches things like giving to the poor, and loving your neighbor has nothing to do with the fact that there are hundreds of Christian charity organizations?
That is irrelevant. If a proper atheist creates a charity organization, he or she isn't going to call it something like "Atheists Against Hunger" just to add to atheist credibility. It would be an organization that isn't exclusive to one religion and leaves religion completely out of the equation. It would focus on one thing and one thing alone: giving donated money/goods to the poor. I'm sure there are more of those types of organizations then there are Christian ones.
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« on: November 10, 2010, 04:39:12 PM »
Peoples who know the dead peoples can still go to yours.
Pay mourners. /discussion 
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« on: November 10, 2010, 03:30:28 PM »
That's sorta the point.
Then why go to their funerals when they won't come to yours either way?
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« on: November 10, 2010, 12:22:19 PM »
Go to other peoples' funerals - otherwise they won't go to yours.
Don't think these people will turn up, they're sorta already dead.
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