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Chatterbox / Re: I want to admit something...
« on: November 18, 2010, 07:38:49 PM »

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Chatterbox / Re: I want to admit something...
« on: November 18, 2010, 05:14:31 PM »
But in all seriousness, don't feel bad. At least your strait lol.

So wait, if someone is into urolagnia thats ok? :coolface

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Chatterbox / Re: Bad Stuff That Happened To You
« on: November 18, 2010, 03:36:02 PM »
ITT:

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: November 18, 2010, 11:39:38 AM »
Fronteir, Frontier... details. :P

Of course, being one of those made-on-the-spot images I didn't think to save a PSD.  :laughing


you know you could even fix that typo in paint right?

I'm not exactly sure why I didn't think of doing something like that, possibly because it was 3am last night and my brain was half asleep already.



There ya go, use it as a desktop background or something. :P

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: November 18, 2010, 02:15:11 AM »
That actually made me laugh. Because it's kinda ridiculous. And funny at the same time.

But typo fail :P

Fronteir, Frontier... details. :P

Of course, being one of those made-on-the-spot images I didn't think to save a PSD.  :laughing

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: November 18, 2010, 01:36:20 AM »
I was really bored and was paging through the GTM land thread (for reasons I can't seem to remember).  Seeing that comic with Nar inspired me to do something entirely pointless.

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Chatterbox / Re: religious debate thread
« on: November 18, 2010, 12:47:15 AM »
Here's the reason.
On a side note:  I drank half a bottle of Tanqueray while I was writing that last post.
I have a hard time understanding most of what I wrote on that post.  I am guessing that was what I meant.

Ah, I missed that part.

Also, is it just me, or has this thread gone from religious debate to quantum physics?
Not like thats a problem, quantum physics are a much more interesting topic. :P

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Stock Showcases / Re: Horror's showcase
« on: November 18, 2010, 12:40:49 AM »
Horror, if you wanna keep progressing as a builder just ignore the bickering and random off-topic chit-chat for now. ;)

Here are some sources of information you can count on when it comes to Stock building.

Beetlebros - This is basically effective bot building 101.
http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm

Sage's Tutorials - This is a set of five video tutorials that will help you monumentally.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4512.0.html

Starcore AI - This is an AI pack that replaces the original AI opponents with far more difficult ones.  It may be a bit overwhelming to fight them at first, but you can draw some great information from the designs.
http://www.starcore.gametechmods.com/

Also, anything either Sage or Clickbeetle says is advice you can count on.


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Chatterbox / Re: religious debate thread
« on: November 18, 2010, 12:13:25 AM »
For your second question, because God exists outside of the universe, and by the Ontological Argument, existence is a necessary property of God.
For the first, allow me to try and convince you with an analogy. Imagine, if you will, a train. At the end of this train is a caboose. You ask, "What makes the caboose move?", and I answer, "It's being pulled along by the boxcar in front of it." So, of course you ask what makes the boxcar move, and I answer that it's the boxcar in front of it, ad infinitum. Now, in this imaginary train with an infinite number of boxcars, we have an explanation for why any one car in the train moves. However, we do not have an explanation for why the train as a whole moves. You should, in fact, be able to see that this train cannot move at all. In order for the train to move, it would need an engine. In order for the universe to move, it would need an unmoved mover.

A universe is not a train.  While comparing them in an analogy like that may seem to make perfect sense, it really doesn't.

A train, being a physical thing, is bound by the laws of physics - time and space, relativity, etc.  If a train is moving, there must be a reason.  There is no way a train could move without a physical reason as to why.

Our universe is much different.  Before the big bang the universe was in a state of singularity.  When in singularity (as we have observed in black holes) space and time kinda get tossed out the window while forces like gravity are still existent (it's a bit tricky to explain).  As far as we know, the universe could have started for no reason whatsoever because of how the laws of space and time aren't applicable.

Now I'm no expert on whatever happened before the big bang.  I'm sure if you were talking to Stephan Hawking or Michio Kaku they'd be able to explain it a lot better than I can and probably have more insight on the subject.

Time breaks down as we get closer and closer using relativity theory.  It's not "something out of nothing", but "we cannot use the theory to predict any further".  So the furthest we can see is still "from something to something".

Then, there's no conventional "bang" either.  The two main modern observations contradict the bang are
1.  The cosmological microwave background is extremely uniformed
2.  The discovery that our universe is expanding at an accelerating rate

Currently the popular theory among the scientific community is the inflation theory.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_cosmo_infl.html

Quote from: Nasa.gov
Inflation is now considered an extension of the Big Bang theory...

That's certainly not what you implied when you said...

Big bang is not even consistent with modern science anyway.

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I know my wedges are sucky, and since most of this hinges on wedges that means I'm proper screwed.

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Tee hee hee, many unsuspecting people about what Ry3no does... also its a mulibot.. there is just one on the splash ??

Those smart zones on the sides scare me.

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Chatterbox / Re: religious debate thread
« on: November 16, 2010, 06:21:19 PM »
Also my statement wasn't that atheists can't deal with the fact that there is a god, but that the very concept is just so horrifying to them, that they refuse to even consider that there might be a god.

You just reworded the phrase.  If a concept is horrifying to someone, they obviously can't deal with it.

Finally I refer once again to the Unmoved Mover argument:
  • There exists movement in the world.
  • Things that move were set into motion by something else.
  • If everything that moves were caused to move by something else, there would be an infinite chain of causes. This can't happen.
  • Thus, there must have been something that caused the first movement.
  • From 3, this first cause cannot itself have been moved.
  • From 4, there must be an unmoved mover

That's all for now.

I knew this one would rear it's head eventually.

The main problem with this argument is in point 3.  We don't have any definitive evidence that rules out the idea of infinite chain of causes.  You can't just say "that can't happen" unless you have facts to back it up.

Even if you're right, what about your god?  Your god is supposed to have existed since forever and continue to do so forever.  Why would it be that your god could have always existed but the universe could not?

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Tournament Archives / Re: NAR AI WARS 1 SHOWCASE, MATCHUPS AND VIDEOS
« on: November 16, 2010, 04:00:11 PM »

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Chatterbox / Re: religious debate thread
« on: November 16, 2010, 03:51:59 PM »
A few posts ago you made an ignorant statement that more or less said "atheists are atheists because they can't deal with the fact that there is a god."
With similar logic regarding this statement, I can say that believers are believers simply because they cannot deal with not knowing.
But then you can apply that statement to almost anything.
 
The reason I'm more or less Aetheist is because there has been no conclusive and absolute proof of the existence of a god. And before people jump on me saying "Try and prove that there ISN'T a god", it is not possible to prove the absence of something. For instance, videogame testers try and find as many bugs in the game as they can, and the games are made as clean and airtight as they can. But one or two glitches always make their way through. In my view, the only reason religious people use the argument "Prove that there is not a god" is because they know that they can't logically prove that there is.

I was kinda making a point about the flawed logic he used to come to a conclusions about all atheists.  What I said wasn't supposed to be taken seriously. :P

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BTW guys heres what my bot will look like after everything gets sorted.


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Chatterbox / Re: religious debate thread
« on: November 16, 2010, 12:44:42 PM »
Big bang is not even consistent with modern science anyway.

Explain.

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I think I know the problem with mine, I'll pm you the details.

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Chatterbox / Re: religious debate thread
« on: November 16, 2010, 12:58:22 AM »
You are an idiot. The study had the people rate their overall "happiness" than asked them some basic questions such as their financial situation and how important religion was to them etc. This was a scientific study that was published in a psychological journal, not some bullsh** survey conducted by a religious institution.This could simply mean, as Noodle said, that ignorance is bliss, but the information is valid.

I did a little research into the validity of that study.  Here's what I found from the very link you provided.

The study was published by a man named DG Myers.  Right below his name is contact information.  It cites Hope College as where hes working.  Now if I'm reading this wrong, there still is only two reasons why Hope College would be put there - 1) because that's where the study took place or 2) because that's where hes working now.

Either way, I looked up Hope College on Wikipedia and sure enough...
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...it retains a Christian atmosphere...
Hope's motto is taken from Psalm 42:5: "Spera in Deo" ("Hope in God").

Obviously that college has some Christian attitudes.  Now let's put that aside assuming it had nothing to do with the study.  I also did a little research on the publisher, DG Myers.

I happened to find this - a little excerpt from one of his books, published on his own website.
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Let no one be smug. Cruelty and compassion, mischief and morality, are exhibited by people of all faiths and none. Many are good without God and many believers go to sleep each night behind bars. Yet the accumulating evidence indicates that faith often tethers self-interest and nurtures character. Godliness and goodliness are more than typographically linked.

Not to mention this bombshell.

I think I've found reasonable evidence that Mr. Myers is biased, and the study study was biased as well.

I simply believe an Omnipotent,   Omniscient, and Omnipresent God makes a lot more sense than, "a ball of matter existed for eternity before it randomly exploded and made the universe then life started somehow." The Unmoved Mover argument applies here.

A few posts ago you made an ignorant statement that more or less said "atheists are atheists because they can't deal with the fact that there is a god."

With similar logic regarding this statement, I can say that believers are believers simply because they cannot deal with not knowing.



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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: November 15, 2010, 09:17:26 PM »
I like my weight loss plan. I call it "The Hydrovian Revolution". It's filled with masochism, willpower and trance music. It involves eating less than a skinny person (with a normal metabolism), walking approximately 4 kilometers a day, and not caring about tiredness, hunger, and pain. And lots and lots of trance music.
You are beautiful just the way you are.


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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: General Chatter Thread
« on: November 15, 2010, 04:23:05 PM »
Make the teapot shoot flames out of its spout.

It'd be the best Ra2 component ever.

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