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Title: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 05:34:46 PM
The amount of 12 year olds on this forum has me worried about the direction the forum is going, too much smiley spam, stupid ideas, not reading rules and people trying to host tournaments straight away/all the time. I dunno about you guys but it feels like we are being invaded by trolls or just a lot of little kids all at once and either way I don't like it.

Back when I was new we didn't have all this trolling/flaming/spamming, we just had people who wanted to build robots and get better at it. I might be gone from the forum due to reading all the rubbish gives me a headache and trying to find great robots and new inspiration is lacking a lot lately.

Discuss, maybe I'm not the only one who feels this way?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: J on August 24, 2010, 05:38:12 PM
This thread is nowhere near as bad as some of the other threads I have been to.
And all the invading 12 year olds would be nice.... Well.. Member count wise...
Though they shouldnt post so many of the same topics, and actually make showcases like the rest of us do.
(...Not sure if that would be a good thing, but ehh)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
HEY!

I'm 12, and I never trolled once. (Maybe my first few posts had bad grammar but still)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 24, 2010, 05:41:14 PM
He wasn't referring to YOU specifically. I can tthink of one 12 year old who's much more likely to be who he was talking about.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 24, 2010, 05:42:05 PM
:C


That's all.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
HEY!

I'm 12, and I never trolled once. (Maybe my first few posts had bad grammar but still)

your name makes me think your 14 >.< and you actually listen to what other members have to say.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 24, 2010, 05:46:08 PM
I have a belief in a similar vein to you Ian.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: J on August 24, 2010, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
HEY!

I'm 12, and I never trolled once. (Maybe my first few posts had bad grammar but still)

your name makes me think your 14 >.< and you actually listen to what other members have to say.
This post me think of YCM just now.
Newbies who don't listen and post a 60+ card deck, ALWAYS think they are the best player ever.
Its sad/funny at the same time
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: 090901 on August 24, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
Meh, I really should stop annoying some of the noobs here. Kinda funny because some of them are my age (12) and still can't build worth crap.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: J on August 24, 2010, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
HEY!

I'm 12, and I never trolled once. (Maybe my first few posts had bad grammar but still)

your name makes me think your 14 >.< and you actually listen to what other members have to say.
This post me think of YCM just now.
Newbies who don't listen and post a 60+ card deck, ALWAYS think they are the best player ever.
Its sad/funny at the same time

You're on the YCM forum too? I'm making a series of Pikmin cards on that site, look for "Pikmin Set" in the Media Cards.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Somebody on August 24, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
This forum is really in a transition cycle when I showed up 2 years ago, and still is. 2 years ago, when BBEANS 4 was starting, there was an astounding lack of mainstay members (we had trouble filling a 32 bot bracket!). Since then, these forums have grown tremendously. Tons of people have joined. Tons of people that are INTERESTED IN RA2, which is the main point of GTM. The main core of people here have shifted a lot. Gone are the days where n00b whacking was rampant, and tons of members were driven away in droves. Now, we get lots of mainstay members. They can be a bit immature sometimes, but I can always get a laugh out of something on here. And maybe some people are immature. I used to be. The longer they stay, the more mature they get, and the better this place becomes.

P.S. These kinds of threads are just as bad as the n00by threads IMO. Its a valid point though, but still...
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sage on August 24, 2010, 07:00:50 PM
Agree with Ian. It's become an RA2 forum where 80% of the posts have little to do with the game. The section that should have the most posts (Stock/DSL Showcase) by far, is beaten out by the Junk Yard. Story time is the most useless thing I've ever seen. There's maybe 5 builders where I actually enjoy looking in their showcase, while the rest don't have any inclination to get better and reject our advice. (See, Sparkey's 90 page 0 good bot showcase)

If you don't want to get better at building or modding OR you want to but are too young to know whats going on, get off the RA2 forum.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Urjak on August 24, 2010, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Sage on August 24, 2010, 07:00:50 PM
. There's maybe 5 builders where I actually enjoy looking in their showcase,

Dang... only 5?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sage on August 24, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
*stock. And that's of the people who post bots pretty frequently. Like I don't count Inf, Pysc, or Luigica in that count.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: kill343gs on August 24, 2010, 09:50:26 PM
I can see where you guys are coming from, but what the heck do you want us to do? Make some sort of gated community of RA2 so there's only a handful of us left? And then how do we decide what qualifies a person to come in or not? We can't just ban anybody who isn't an RA2 god like Click or Inf. Somebody pretty much summed it up with his post.

This community is simply a microcosm of the real world; we have the top brains, the people who control it, the idiots who don't listen, and everything in between. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. Hopefully the idiots get smarter, as they usually do. They just progress at different rates. We even got Hydro to start acting mature, that's like a record or something.

Guess what, I was a n00b once. Naryar was a n00b once. Inf, Pys, Click, ACAMS, we ALL were n00bs once. The point is, it's a game geared towards kids. Most of us were kids when we picked it up, and a lot of us still are (I'm only 17 if you would believe that.) Age obviously has nothing to do with it. It's all about maturity, which is something that can only come with time. Like I said, some people just take more time than others. Most of you guys that just said you were only 12, I never would have guessed.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: J on August 24, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: J on August 24, 2010, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on August 24, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
HEY!

I'm 12, and I never trolled once. (Maybe my first few posts had bad grammar but still)

your name makes me think your 14 >.< and you actually listen to what other members have to say.
This post me think of YCM just now.
Newbies who don't listen and post a 60+ card deck, ALWAYS think they are the best player ever.
Its sad/funny at the same time

You're on the YCM forum too? I'm making a series of Pikmin cards on that site, look for "Pikmin Set" in the Media Cards.
Now you know one of the sites I spent my time on, before I got into RA2 again.

Quote from: Urjak on August 24, 2010, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Sage on August 24, 2010, 07:00:50 PM
. There's maybe 5 builders where I actually enjoy looking in their showcase,

Dang... only 5?
Methinks(in no real order):
Clickbeetle
Sage
Ian
JoeBlow
meAnd some other random famous-like member
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 24, 2010, 10:23:36 PM
Surely it's a good thing for tons of 12 year olds to join?


After all, it's a game for 12 year olds.


And besides, this forum needs more popularity, as RA2 is a dying game, and WE are basically the only people who play it on a regular basis.


The more people, the better.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 10:51:23 PM
Quote from: Zog on August 24, 2010, 10:23:36 PM
Surely it's a good thing for tons of 12 year olds to join?


After all, it's a game for 12 year olds.


And besides, this forum needs more popularity, as RA2 is a dying game, and WE are basically the only people who play it on a regular basis.


The more people, the better.

It's dying because most posts aren't RA2 related, I'm here to look at interesting designs and watch tournaments not to read useless junk in the junk yard section where some people spend most of their time.

Maybe we can Sticky some showcases like Click's and Inf's so people can look at them for ideas and building tips.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 24, 2010, 10:56:42 PM
One of the main problems is is that the showcases are at the middle of of the main page.


Most people are inclined to look at the top (announcements and tournaments) and the bottom (all the crap), NOT the middle.


I feel that the showcases should be nearer to the top.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Scrap Daddy on August 24, 2010, 11:01:19 PM
Eh, it isn't as bad as you're making it sound imo and I don't read half the topics on here since most are just retarded. Just stay with the threads that you know are good and skip the others.

Showcase section isn't that bad either though. Stock is obviously dieing since there are hardly any nnew posts and a lot of people just don't bother learning glitches, which leads to bfe which makes things even worse. DSL isn't as bad since you can make a pretty simple bot and still have it be effective despite what DSL has become.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 24, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
DSL is basically stock to most people.


I'm one of the few people who only build in DSL, mainly because I feel that there is more variety.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sage on August 24, 2010, 11:29:40 PM
Quote from: Zog on August 24, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
DSL is basically stock to most people.


I'm one of the few people who only build in DSL, mainly because I feel that there is more variety.

No, most people build only DSL. After a few lame attempts at stock, most people decide DSL is easier.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: frezal on August 25, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
Who gives a sh**? It's a 7 year old bargain bin game. Just be glad that a community even exists.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 25, 2010, 12:26:22 AM
@Sage - Really? Then someone's wiki page needs editing then...
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 02:40:24 AM
Quote from: Zog on August 24, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
I'm one of the few people who only build in DSL, mainly because I feel that there is more variety.

I only build in DSL because of the realism of the Ai and the components in the bot lab.
In my honest opinion, I think stock is better for those who like to 'Build bots, fight bots', as quoting the back of the RA2 box.
And DSL is better for those who like to build a basic robot/advanced robot, post on showcase/seek advise and improve so
they themselves can enter a tournament.

For me I only use DSL for the realism it offers. And for someone like... Sage let's say, he probably enjoys using stock for
the freedom and endless creativity that the building style of stock offers.

Thats my view only.

~Mush~
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 25, 2010, 02:51:24 AM
Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
Who gives a sh**? It's a 7 year old bargain bin game. Just be glad that a community even exists.
^Finally, found one I agree with^
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Stagfish on August 25, 2010, 04:06:25 AM
What I dont understand is why DSL isnt seen as custom parts.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 04:28:48 AM
Because there is a set amount of parts.
I expect that Backlash, when finished, will have it's own showcase section.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on August 25, 2010, 04:35:37 AM
Quote from: ianh05 on August 24, 2010, 10:51:23 PM
Quote from: Zog on August 24, 2010, 10:23:36 PM
Surely it's a good thing for tons of 12 year olds to join?


After all, it's a game for 12 year olds.


And besides, this forum needs more popularity, as RA2 is a dying game, and WE are basically the only people who play it on a regular basis.


The more people, the better.

It's dying because most posts aren't RA2 related, I'm here to look at interesting designs and watch tournaments not to read useless junk in the junk yard section where some people spend most of their time.

Maybe we can Sticky some showcases like Click's and Inf's so people can look at them for ideas and building tips.

The only reason why the community isn't as vibrant (I wouldn't say "dying." We've been "dying" for at least six years) anymore is because Battlebots and Robot Wars aren't on network television anymore. It really has nothing to do with us or the community, just a general lack of interest in the subject. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that many of the people who have been kicking around for a while discovered Battlebots or Robot Wars first, and then found RA2 where they could live out their dreams of robotic dominance vicariously through a PC game. People like that are getting rarer and rarer. It also dosen't help that we've pushed the learning curve for both Stock and DSL so steep that many new members don't stand a chance in tourneys. I remember that Ian and I placed second in his Tag Team Tourney really soon after I had joined - I was still a n00b, but I could compete head-to-head with some of the best. That just doesn't happen anymore.
 
I'm not as concerned with the direction of the forums as some seem to be, I will say this though: since the move to GTM's from the Atari forums and the subsequent exposure DSL gained, it feels like the community has become a bit unfocused. I'm sure you've all heard by now how each individual tourney was a big deal, and how they were rare and that two at the same time was unheard of. But when someone was hosting a tourney, it felt like everybody in the community was following it, even those who weren't participating. Also, the discussion of DSL was completely minimal. Even though it had been released, GTM's was basically a small offshoot that played the mod. Everything on the main forums was Stock, Stock, Stock. And I don't even remember an off-topic section xD
 
At the end of the day though, Frezal pretty much has it right:
 
Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
Who gives a sh**? It's a 7 year old bargain bin game. Just be glad that a community even exists.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: JoeBlo on August 25, 2010, 04:52:58 AM
Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
Who gives a sh**? It's a 7 year old bargain bin game. Just be glad that a community even exists.

I second.. wait... I fourth this..
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:13:51 AM
Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
Who gives a sh**? It's a 7 year old bargain bin game. Just be glad that a community even exists.

Same, I agree.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Thyrus on August 25, 2010, 05:48:30 AM
I agree with ianh
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Velocity EVO on August 25, 2010, 05:54:43 AM
@ Sage

Relax man. I understand what you mean by the showcase sections are dwindling. But at least we have members here, if all these young members leave. Then the member count could drop and considering most members are 12 or under (im not im 15) that are active most of the time. This forum could fall flat on its face. So if you think about it they are helping us as well with their showcases as well. As Frezal said. the game is 7 years old. Its something you should not get wound up about. its like in the most hated robot thread. Everyone kept arguing about tornado cheating which happened 8 years ago.

Thats all i have to say about this.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:32:04 AM
I'm mostly worried about of Forum Reputation... It looks like, I'm not respectable Member here... :ermm:
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 25, 2010, 06:32:32 AM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:32:04 AM
I'm mostly worried about of Forum Reputation... It looks like, I'm not respectable Member here... :ermm:


ahem.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:34:37 AM
Quote from: Zog on August 25, 2010, 06:32:32 AM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:32:04 AM
I'm mostly worried about of Forum Reputation... It looks like, I'm not respectable Member here... :ermm:


ahem.
Sorry. Zog... But I'll give +1 for you...  :redface:
 
(Edit)
 
-1 Eh? Hmph. Fine. No Metal Mayhem matches till my reputation os over 3!  :mad:
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 25, 2010, 06:42:32 AM
I've just voted you up +1.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:44:22 AM
Quote from: Zog on August 25, 2010, 06:42:32 AM
I've just voted you up +1.
Thanks Zog. I Appriciate that.  :approve:
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Mouldy on August 25, 2010, 06:52:58 AM
Quote from: J on August 24, 2010, 05:38:12 PM
make showcases like the rest of us do.

 
That's what i am trying to do it takes me forever
Oh and 12 should be 10 more like. that would be me.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 25, 2010, 07:05:18 AM
people saying DSL is better then stock due to realism is kidding   themselves, stock is about being creative just as much if not more then   just making stacked 36 mace HSers.

For me...
Stock - Creative with the ability to stack.
DSL - Creative with realistic rules and some more components.

Stock still has plenty of uses but people just aren't trying hard enough, even though I hardly play the game I still managed to create new AW's that people have never seen before.

I standby my original post in believing that the forum has gone downhill with the amount of rubbish such as smiley spams and useless posts around.

@ Robo we actually only had one series of Robot Wars here in Australia and battlebots never got to our tv's, so I don't believe that the forums current state has anything to do with lack of robotic combat shows on air these days.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Badnik96 on August 25, 2010, 07:54:29 AM
Meh. I agree with Frezal.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 08:15:26 AM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:32:04 AM
I'm mostly worried about of Forum Reputation... It looks like, I'm not respectable Member here... :ermm:

As I've told you over and over, that rating DOES NOT REFLECT your actual respect. Stop taking it seriously.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: cephalopod on August 25, 2010, 08:16:19 AM
I agree with everyone except Jonzu (Stop whining. You offered to do Metal Mayhem. So do it. The way reputation icnreases is by EARNING it by doing those kinda things, and not complaining every 3 minutes about not being AU or having a +637628 reputation.)

Anyway. The majority of the people that come here now are just people who get nostalgic about Robot Wars or Battlebots, then discover the game from there. Hence the age of those involved. I loved RW as a kid, but I never forgot it, and eventually found RA2 last year. But, I do agree, the forum is strangely Junk-Yard-Based, which isn't good in my opinion. It's a Robot Arena 2 forum, not some other stuff. There are millions of other forums for non-robot-combat stuff. Of course n00bs will join, all we can do is try to supervise their growth into decent members. I was a n00b when I joined just over a year ago, now I like to think of myself as a decent member. We have to support each others growth and development as community members and players of this game as, let's be quite honest, as frezal said, it's dying. The fact there is a community, to me, is miraculous, especially one of this size.

Just my 2 cents. Disagree or agree as you will, lol, in fact I expect to see my reputation collapse from this post onwards. Do as you will. Just take what I said into consideration.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 08:23:43 AM
^^Exactly my thoughts^^
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 08:26:30 AM
Fine. I'll host the Metal Mayhem and then leave this S*it. :mad:
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 08:30:28 AM
Jonzu. We don't want you to leave. YOU are not the problem at all. You just keep misunderstanding things. That reputation figure means NOTHING. NOTHING. I've told you before to stop taking it seriously. I respect you, and I'm pretty sure quite a lot of people do more than they let on. Your tournaments have been great so far. I see no reason why you should leave, and I don't think anybody else does either.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 08:34:17 AM
I'm happy when ACAMS Removes it.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Thyrus on August 25, 2010, 08:37:26 AM
really... shut up Jonzu. And don`t even think about making a thread about you leaving.
G.K. is right: Many respect you but you`re taking unimportant things to importand.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 08:38:09 AM
Ok then, i never smiley spammed once, yeah graned i made some fail tourneys, im not denying that, but at least i diddnt set my account up and abandon them, yeah i abandoned XTY because i knew people diddnt want to see it... but the fact of the matter is, i aren't a massive noob anymore. yeah, dometimes a can be, but the 12 year olds do sometimes help this forum, heck. this forum's lasted 6 years! granted, people like sparkey can be annoying, but he is 12. so think what you think, but at least the forum isnt full of 4 year olds.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 08:41:00 AM
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 08:38:09 AM
i abandoned XTY because i knew people diddnt want to see it...

Is that why you did it? I think they did want to see it, or they wouldn't have entered.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 08:45:15 AM
Yes, and the fact that all the videos got deleted by a pc world health check >:(

Anyway, thats not the point, and you guys, remember, you were twelve once, so dont act like a douche about us, because you guys probs annoyed people at some point.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: JoeBlo on August 25, 2010, 08:49:13 AM
this discussion has gone all over the place and many aspects are contradicting???

now from what I can gather there is the following points made...

correct ?

so massive floor right here is you want more RA2 related posted but you dont want any inexperienced players making tournaments, mods, asking things or suggesting things....

so what is it you want people to actually do besides post in the junkyard ?

see the problem ? (I do)

perhaps less friction between yourself's will stop so many "evacuating" to off topic sections? all work together towards a common goal rather then fighting?

Im not saying this is every single one of you but I can take a good guess that over 50% of you post something negative towards someone else at least once a week.

something to think about, community degradation is done by the majority not a select group  ;)   
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: cephalopod on August 25, 2010, 08:53:43 AM
I agree, although I think it may be less 'not wanting' the new players to do stuff, more wanting them to know about things before they do them. We know what the tournaments can end up like, and they should know too, just so they know how things go wrong, and what is a good idea/has been done before, etc.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 08:56:50 AM
^^I again agree with this^^
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: JoeBlo on August 25, 2010, 09:12:26 AM
Quote from: Craaig on August 25, 2010, 08:53:43 AM
I agree, although I think it may be less 'not wanting' the new players to do stuff, more wanting them to know about things before they do them. We know what the tournaments can end up like, and they should know too, just so they know how things go wrong, and what is a good idea/has been done before, etc.

we have plenty of preventions towards bad tournaments now.. so there is no need for them in this discussion, majority chooses what goes through.

but my point remains.. if its a stupid idea, silly tournament, etc why do so many on here bite peoples face off ? when I started CC1 the original ruleset was fail... someone could have flamed me and I would have packed up and left then and there but instead SB helped me fix them up... so again I say its other manor and not so much the new members.

dont like something tell someone, dont spam TLT everywhere, tell people to leave, shut up, etc just nudge them into the right direction, you get more progress out of people when you treat them nicer

(this post isnt directed at you craaig)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: cephalopod on August 25, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
I know it isn't, don't worry :') I agree with your points, and I think everyone else should pay attention to them.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sage on August 25, 2010, 10:26:46 AM
It just seems many people lack the motivation to become better builders. I recently saw something in a signature (can't remember whose it was) that said "Put this in your sig if you think decent bots are good enough."

This kinda stuff saddens me. I know we pushed the learning curve pretty steep, which is why I provided video tutorials that help people keep up, and why Clickbeetle created his website page for ra2 techniques.

Oh well, I guess people enjoy Story Time too much to be bothered to learn how to build.

@ Frezal. Point taken. Just stating my opinion, and showing that someone does "give a sh**" about the quality of the forum.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 25, 2010, 10:46:47 AM
I looked at the forum stats and member join rate has gone like this:
 August 2010         88
 July 2010              57
 June 2010             63
 May 2010              41
 April 2010             44
 March 2010          32
 February 2010     25
 January 2010       22   
 December 2009   23
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 25, 2010, 10:49:34 AM
I'd take 2 more clickbeetle's over 1 million more sparkey's any day.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ACAMS on August 25, 2010, 10:52:41 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 25, 2010, 10:46:47 AM
I looked at the forum stats and member join rate has gone like this:
 August 2010         88
 July 2010              57
 June 2010             63
 May 2010              41
 April 2010             44
 March 2010          32
 February 2010     25
 January 2010       22   
 December 2009   23

 
Spam bots have found a way to register......but only one has actually posted.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
who of them?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: 090901 on August 25, 2010, 11:44:21 AM
Jonzu, Your Rep is just a stupid number. I don't give a care about mine. Think of Rep is just a stupid little number.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Stagfish on August 25, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
What i'm worried about is the high amount of people joining to only post in the junk yard, some don't even have RA2 which is what this forum is mainly about.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Zog on August 25, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
Or play on Arcade *eyes go to Yoda*.


Then again, Yoda does play RA2 now.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 25, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: Stagfish on August 25, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
What i'm worried about is the high amount of people joining to only post in the junk yard, some don't even have RA2 which is what this forum is mainly about.
Or the HUGE amount of people who join then DO NOTHING. Can't we have a min. post requirement, you must post X times or you account will not be registered fully. Kinda like a trial run of new members.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 12:31:37 PM
YES SM.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 25, 2010, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 12:31:37 PM
YES SM.
Sorry, is this sarcasm or not? I can't tell.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Gigafrost on August 25, 2010, 12:39:47 PM

@Sage & Ian: In my opinion, there isn't anything terribly wrong with getting a few new members every now and then. As many have said before, think of it this way. An old outdated, non existant game is once again gaining a community. It's quite a phenomenon.  Now I do question the purpose of the "Story Time Threads" as it would relate to RA2 - Personally I think one offtopic thread would be enough. Just like the old forum.

But in that regard, I'm sure there are people who sign up here because of their interest in the game (or at least I hope). In a sense, this community, no matter how "N00b Infested" is really the only thing keeping the essence of Robot Arena alive. And if there are some new people who are trolling, let em'. We have a good staff who are more than willing to keep them in check. We're obviously doing something right to keep having new members join.

EDIT: I do however wish that there was a section on our forum that allows people to introduce themselves. Most forums have some sort of "Introduce Yourself" thread. I feel if we include one, it will solve a lot of issues. I also personally think that people who just join the community shouldn't have the privilege to create a tournament thread at all - not even an idea for one. Atleast until maybe after a month or so that option could be available. I agree that it could be a pain to see someone who no one knows try to make one.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Gigafrost on August 25, 2010, 12:39:47 PM

@Sage & Ian: *Talking *
Qft.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:06:31 PM
Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
Who gives a sh**? It's a 7 year old bargain bin game. Just be glad that a community even exists.
Agreed.


Quote from: Jonzu95 on August 25, 2010, 06:32:04 AM
I'm mostly worried about of Forum Reputation... It looks like, I'm not respectable Member here... :ermm:

It's just the Dawn thing that others don't like. You're fine besides that.

When I joined, I was one of those people. Everyone hated me, but I got better to some degree (my botting skill sucks, but I don't spam or not listen to advice).
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 25, 2010, 01:14:26 PM
I have no idea what some people talking about  :confused: sparkey, freeziez and co. have no positive impact on the forum in my view.. only negative and if they were to leave it wouldn't hurt the community in anyway. we have lot's of members who do still love the game like Click, Joe and Sage who are doing so much more for us then all these "n00bs" could ever do... great robots, great tournaments, great mods and so on.

Also veterans try and help people like sparkey, yet sparkey and co. don't seem to improve or listen most of the time instead they run off to the junk yard section to spam smileys pointlessly.. makes me wonder why anyone would bother with them at all.

It really isn't hard to make decent bots that are somewhat original especially after being a member here for like 8 months. maybe you can move their showcases to the junk yard since that's what most all of sparkey's showcase is anyway.

this isn't me raging, just speaking my mind (ok maybe I lost a match on SC2) but surely we can brighten up the forum a little bit instead of letting it sink into the junk yard section.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: yoda9726 on August 25, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: Zog on August 25, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
Or play on Arcade *eyes go to Yoda*.


Then again, Yoda does play RA2 now.

ahem...I played RA2 long before the arcade popped up  :yaya) , I didn't post back then mostly due to what i perceived as a particularly hostile environment.  That, and as I said before, if i don't have anything new to add to a conversation, i'd rather just keep my mouth shut.
 
The 'hostile environment'?  Truly was me misinterpreting some things i read when i was lurking.  Won't say what those things were because it really doesn't matter.   
 
Anyway, Don't blame the 12 year olds, there are noobs of every age.  And there are plenty of younglings who will suprise you.  You gotta take the bad with the good.  And remember, boys and girls, Just because you haven't seen someone doesn't mean they don't know what's going on.  Some of us lurk for quite some time before we do anything...
 
And yeah, the fact there's a community at all is pretty amazing. 
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:32:49 PM
Maybe I should leave. I've done nothing.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Urjak on August 25, 2010, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:32:49 PM
Maybe I should leave. I've done nothing.

Okay, then leave. This is assuming that was a serious comment.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:36:57 PM
Quote from: Urjak on August 25, 2010, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:32:49 PM
Maybe I should leave. I've done nothing.

Okay, then leave. This is assuming that was a serious comment.


I wanted to see what other people think of me. Am I a n00b?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 01:38:48 PM
No.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sage on August 24, 2010, 07:00:50 PM
Agree with Ian. It's become an RA2 forum where 80% of the posts have little to do with the game. The section that should have the most posts (Stock/DSL Showcase) by far, is beaten out by the Junk Yard. Story time is the most useless thing I've ever seen. There's maybe 5 builders where I actually enjoy looking in their showcase, while the rest don't have any inclination to get better and reject our advice. (See, Sparkey's 90 page 0 good bot showcase)

If you don't want to get better at building or modding OR you want to but are too young to know whats going on, get off the RA2 forum.

I don't even build anymore :p
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ACAMS on August 25, 2010, 01:46:27 PM
Quote from: yoda9726 on August 25, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
ahem...I played RA2 long before the arcade popped up  :yaya) , I didn't post back then mostly due to what i perceived as a particularly hostile environment.
 

EXACTLY what topics like this create.....a hostile environment.
 
Those of you that don't like a certain section.....you can block it and you will never even know it is there!!
 
I REALLY don't like you members acting like you are better than other members and showing a snooty attitude.....that is not very friendly, you know!
 
This forum is for EVERYBODY.....even Sparkey (and god knows he pisssssesss me off all the time)
 
That said, I don't really want to see any more topics like this....or very much more discussion in this one, or I will be worried about the forums direction.
 
 
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
Even I swallowed my pride and admit I suck at building, none of us are better than each other.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
I agree with ACAMS.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Urjak on August 25, 2010, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:36:57 PM
I wanted to see what other people think of me. Am I a n00b?

No, you are not a n00b.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Vertigo on August 25, 2010, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
I agree with ACAMS.
So do I
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: frezal on August 25, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: ianh05 on August 25, 2010, 01:14:26 PM
I have no idea what some people talking about  :confused: sparkey, freeziez and co. have no positive impact on the forum in my view.. only negative and if they were to leave it wouldn't hurt the community in anyway. we have lot's of members who do still love the game like Click, Joe and Sage who are doing so much more for us then all these "n00bs" could ever do... great robots, great tournaments, great mods and so on.

Also veterans try and help people like sparkey, yet sparkey and co. don't seem to improve or listen most of the time instead they run off to the junk yard section to spam smileys pointlessly.. makes me wonder why anyone would bother with them at all.

It really isn't hard to make decent bots that are somewhat original especially after being a member here for like 8 months. maybe you can move their showcases to the junk yard since that's what most all of sparkey's showcase is anyway.

this isn't me raging, just speaking my mind (ok maybe I lost a match on SC2) but surely we can brighten up the forum a little bit instead of letting it sink into the junk yard section.
It's a game! Why do you care if others build to your standards? If they're having fun, the game has served its purpose. If there is any problem with this forum, it's people taking this way too seriously.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 02:28:58 PM
Quote from: Vertigo on August 25, 2010, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Natef on August 25, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
I agree with ACAMS.
So do I
Me 2, And on a site i found, this site gets over 1500 visitors a day, thats gotta say something.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 25, 2010, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 02:28:58 PM
Me 2, And on a site i found, this site gets over 1500 visitors a day, thats gotta say something.

*facepalm* ok I'm gonna advertise this place on a certain website filled with trolls, maybe then people will realize quality > quantity.

Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
It's a game! Why do you care if others build to your standards? If they're having fun, the game has served its purpose. If there is any problem with this forum, it's people taking this way too seriously.

I care that people have gone out of their way to help the new people with tutorials and what not and a select few have chosen to ignore pretty much all help and as sage said this is a RA2 forum we should all care otherwise why are we here?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: J on August 25, 2010, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
Even I swallowed my pride and admit I suck at building, none of us are better than each other.
Define "better", when builders like ACAMS and Clickbeetle exist.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 25, 2010, 03:08:05 PM
Natef stop spouting such nonsense please.

You are not a n00b, maybe too much of a fanboy IMO but you do have enough skills (you might even become a popup specialist one day with enough work) and most importantly, you are not trashing the community like n00bs do.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: frezal on August 25, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: ianh05 on August 25, 2010, 02:52:37 PM
I care that people have gone out of their way to help the new people with tutorials and what not and a select few have chosen to ignore pretty much all help and as sage said this is a RA2 forum we should all care otherwise why are we here?
Have you considered that some people don't want to build bots your way? Perhaps they prefer a simpler bot with a cool chassis and paint job to a small box with 40,000 spikes.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 04:00:12 PM
Quote from: frezal on August 25, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
Perhaps they prefer a simpler bot with a cool chassis and paint job to a small box with 40,000 spikes.

That is the perfect description of me!
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2010, 04:40:38 PM
We are all 12 once.

Hydro used to suck, but now he is cool.

There is potential in everybody.

So, now y'all shut up.

Oh look a hamster!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/61364hamster.jpg)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 04:41:14 PM
Well said.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Noodle on August 25, 2010, 04:53:46 PM
As most of you know, I joined this forum back in May, and I've been here since.  I'm gonna be honest, the four months I've spent on this forum have so far been more enjoyable than all of my accumulated time in other online communities.  I've been here and there, and I've left numerous communities for one of two reasons; either a small feeling of dissent eventually boiled over and I left or the group dissipated and I left with everyone else.  So far, I've had no real resentful thoughts towards this community or its occupants, and so I think I'm gonna be around for a while.  However, let's face facts, this is a community based around a seven year old bargain bin game; this community could easily be dissolved if some bad decisions are made or something major were to happen.

Now I know we all can hate newbies.  A lot of them are ignorant, emotional, preteens that don't like to listen, but we can't have our community without them.  You aren't gonna find a lot of newbies who are older, listen better, and can think strait.  We can't, however, try and cut down a newbie every time he doesn't make a robot according to the set standards or posts something stupid in the junkyard.  They should be reprimanded accordingly, but we can't have a community without newbies.  Veterans are going to leave, and what determines if the community stays alive is how well we can replace them with newer members.  Now this doesn't mean we should start kissing up to new members just because we need them for our community to stay around, but we can't go and bite the hand that feeds at the same time.  If we learn to deal with these newer members better, we can lift the mood of the place a little.

I know I may be taking this a bit to serious, but like I said I really don't want anything bad to happen to this community.  This is the first community that I've really settled down into.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Vertigo on August 25, 2010, 04:56:59 PM
^I completely agree^
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
OK, my responses to the thread...

@TX: Even if you think nobody wants to see the tournament, keep it going anyways. I had quite a few people post in TWOC discussion thread saying they would enter. 3 entrants and me later, I had a tournament going. Not just a normal tournament, where I can film all of the matches in one day and post them in two (@Craaig :P), I needed to wait for each round, then make a new splash, and then film. Bottom line is, someone is interested, even if it is only a few people.

@Natef and Naryar: Nary is right. You could become a popup specialist easy. SnSs practically fell in my lap after CC1. That was one of my first serious SnS in a while, it wins a tournament, and next thing I know I have a pretty good knack for SnS. And we don't need anyone leaving

@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk

@ACAMS: I really like the system in place with the warnings, etc. I just think it needs more rules related to trolling, spamming, etc.

@Sage: I am one of the ones you mention about Stock vs. DSL. To be honest with you, the stock showcase section has been much more active in the last couple weeks.

My thoughts:
First of all, we need to get rid of the reputation system. The only thing it has brought is some bawwwing from certain people who care what others think. I have never seen the point of this anyways

Second, At first thought, one would say that it is a good idea that we should delete the off topic section. That is not the case though. I doubt that people like Hydro or Natef would stay around without story time (which is by far the most popular thread here. even I pop in from time to time).

Third: Being 12 has nothing to do with immaturity. We have plenty of mature 12 year olds, and when I joined, I was a 14 year old n00b. And if I wasn't as oblivious as I was then, I probably would have left will all the flaming that I received, which flew completely over my head

Fourth: THIS FORUM IS NOT DYING. People have been bawwwing about a dying community for a while. All I can say is that in the last 2 years, it has grown exponentially.

Fifth: STOCK WILL NEVER DIE, because that is what everyone plays first, and some people get latched on to it and love it. And its THE STOCK GAME. We wouldn't have any of this without it.

Sixth: The only way RA2 will ever die is if we stop innovating. Stop getting better. Well guess what, we haven't for as long as I've been here. DSL 3 will come out soon (hopefully), Serge is doing wonders with his exe work, tournaments are flourishing (and too many aren't a bad thing, its more examples for people that they can use to get better. I have an example. The first serious DSL flipper I ever made. It had Mag Snappers. Why? Smashbox 2.). Everyone here has there own share of innovations (Hell, who ever expected someone as new as Thyrus to reveal the Zero-G Glitch to the world).

Seventh: Tournaments are a great thing because they have helped me improve. I suck at building something random. I cannot go into the bot lab and just think up something to build. I need a tournament to build for. Something where my bot needs to be its best. I build better when it is. I also know what to build. Hell, look at Stanley 2. No way I ever would have built it that good or put that much time in if it hadn't been for BBEANS 6.

Eighth: Rules need to be enforced for ALL PEOPLE. I've seen too many vets getting away with things like swearing that a newbie would get flamed for. Yes they have earned the position they are in, but they shouldn't abuse it.

Ninth: N00b whacking should be a semi-punishable offense, when it goes too far.

Tenth: We need less smileys, especially the dancing ones, and the FAIL smiley.

Just my thoughts
-Somebody
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
OK, my responses to the thread...

@TX: Even if you think nobody wants to see the tournament, keep it going anyways. I had quite a few people post in TWOC discussion thread saying they would enter. 3 entrants and me later, I had a tournament going. Not just a normal tournament, where I can film all of the matches in one day and post them in two (@Craaig :P), I needed to wait for each round, then make a new splash, and then film. Bottom line is, someone is interested, even if it is only a few people.

Erm, Problem, Baaaaaaad Problem, I Deleted The Ai And Whatnot.


Batman Style Symbol With The Letters GK Appear In The Sky*
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
good



going.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
Well it is said and done, and you cannot undone what you've done.

And I hate it when G.K., no matter how much he is doing it in good spirit, is helping a tournament. It reinforces the bad behavior.

@TX: IF you start another tournament, the only way to get respect is to go start to finish, and host it well.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
i was trying to  at least cling back some of the molecules of respect i may have gained on my 6 - 7 months of being on this forum.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
i was trying to  at least cling back some of the molecules of respect i may have gained on my 6 - 7 months of being on this forum.


You have more than me.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ACAMS on August 25, 2010, 05:18:03 PM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
OK, my responses to the thread...
 
(972 pages deleted)

@ACAMS: I really like the system in place with the warnings, etc. I just think it needs more rules related to trolling, spamming, etc.


trolling, spamming, etc is NOT allowed in the main forum....if it is done, you guys need to report it, and it will be stopped!
 
As for Playground and such.....just block it, or don't go there.
 
 
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 25, 2010, 05:21:01 PM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
And I hate it when G.K., no matter how much he is doing it in good spirit, is helping a tournament. It reinforces the bad behavior.

You raise a good point, but I will continue to help people.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Vertigo on August 25, 2010, 05:22:18 PM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
First of all, we need to get rid of the reputation system. The only thing it has brought is some bawwwing from certain people who care what others think. I have never seen the point of this anyways
Very good point, it hasn't really benefitted anyone, just caused people to get upset

Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
Third: Being 12 has nothing to do with immaturity. We have plenty of mature 12 year olds, and when I joined, I was a 14 year old n00b. And if I wasn't as oblivious as I was then, I probably would have left will all the flaming that I received, which flew completely over my head
I'm 12, & I'm sick of members moaning about 12 year olds as a whole just because of a few immature members
Members such as Sparkey have clouded the veiw of younger members, this should never have happened
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
i was trying to  at least cling back some of the molecules of respect i may have gained on my 6 - 7 months of being on this forum.


You have more than me.
Well why dont you try and change it, EG stop making paint bots.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:27:40 PM
DISREGARD THAT

OK stop making woopsyturnys.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:31:50 PM
Yeah, do you have skype?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:32:22 PM
wat
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:33:19 PM
Its a IM service, i use it, i advise you get it, i would like to talk to you.
or msn.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
That's what I figured.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
THIS IS THE REASON YOU GUYS AREN'T LIKED

And then you wonder why???

Spam Spam Spam!
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
This thread is turning into spam thread.

This is my own opinion, but I think this thread needs to be locked, it is just causing controversy among members.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:42:26 PM
Quote from: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
That's what I figured.
Now that is just unkind, i wanted to help yu with your bot building skills and whatnot.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
Oh. *feels bad*
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: 090901 on August 25, 2010, 05:43:24 PM
TX and Sparkey: SHUT UP
You two are the some of the most annoying guys on this forum
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Vertigo on August 25, 2010, 05:44:04 PM
mushroom is right, this thread needs to be locked
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: 090901 on August 25, 2010, 05:43:24 PM
TX and Sparkey: SHUT UP
You two are the some of the most annoying guys on this forum
And that was uncalled for.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ACAMS on August 25, 2010, 05:47:32 PM
Topics only get locked when we are finished laughing at the stupidity.........moved to Chatterbox!!
 
 
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from my showcase...
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 22, 2010, 04:55:40 PM
Why dont you press alt + F4 and take a look at yourself, and think, wait, the backlash demo is out, why am i making DSL bots?

Now that was uncalled for.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:48:14 PM
Yes it was, and i apologised for that.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:48:57 PM
I know.
:)

See, this guy's not that bad.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:50:10 PM
*Cue wave of TX hate quotes in 3... 2... 1...*

*Braces*
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Serge on August 25, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
i like turtles
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:53:00 PM
*Goes to revive the epic quotes thread
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:53:37 PM
Hey, hey, we're not all going to flame you.

It was just the irony of that one occasion.

In fact, I have been to many showcases/threads where you haven't said anything proper nasty to some one.
Annoying maybe, but that is just the kind of person you are.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
Meh, Do you have skype??
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
 :( nope.
I have an instant messaging thing though.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 25, 2010, 05:56:10 PM
MSN??
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: SteveM4 on August 25, 2010, 05:57:16 PM
It is called Pidgin
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 25, 2010, 06:41:30 PM
KM, don't get enthralled by TX into his spamming campaign, kthx.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 25, 2010, 07:15:39 PM
I found my Pokemon gold.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Badnik96 on August 25, 2010, 07:25:44 PM
Lock plz
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on August 25, 2010, 11:19:12 PM
How about no lock, and less idiocy. I know you guys don't like getting accused of being outright dumb, but you sure make it easy sometimes xD

Overall, I'm not really as concerned as some of you (iiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaAAAAAAAANNNN) seem to be. Yeah there are people that are annoying, yeah there are people that do nothing, but those types have always existed. Even on the old forums. With time though, we forget and only remember the important people and those who have done more than their fair share of innovating and contributing. There are also people I see stepping up in the near future to fill the void left by leaving vets, and I see people who have already stepped up playing important roles in the community. Focusing on the negatives will put you in a rubber room - just try to look at the bright side once in a while. It makes things much nicer.

Fun fact: my first ever post was "noob here lol"


Quote from: JoeBlo on August 25, 2010, 08:49:13 AM
Im not saying this is every single one of you but I can take a good guess that over 50% of you post something negative towards someone else at least once a week.

BAWWWW HAZ I HURT UR FEELING? xP

Don't worry, I only argue with REAL MEN >:O
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk
Erm.... Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit? And why make an account to lurk?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk
Erm.... Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit? And why make an account to lurk?

How about just: Have this many posts within this time of creating accuont or the account will be deleted.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 26, 2010, 06:43:34 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk
Erm.... Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit? And why make an account to lurk?

How about just: Have this many posts within this time of creating accuont or the account will be deleted.

This will just encourage low quality posts !
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:44:45 AM
Quote from: Naryar on August 26, 2010, 06:43:34 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk
Erm.... Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit? And why make an account to lurk?

How about just: Have this many posts within this time of creating accuont or the account will be deleted.

This will just encourage low quality posts !
Wich will be deleted, thus wont count.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 26, 2010, 06:47:15 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:44:45 AM
Quote from: Naryar on August 26, 2010, 06:43:34 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk
Erm.... Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit? And why make an account to lurk?

How about just: Have this many posts within this time of creating accuont or the account will be deleted.

This will just encourage low quality posts !
Wich will be deleted, thus wont count.
Which will give even more work to admins...
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 06:48:09 AM
Quote from: Naryar on August 26, 2010, 06:43:34 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy on August 26, 2010, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
@SM: Bad idea about the post thing, people would just come in to spam so they could stay. And some people will not post for a while because they lurk
Erm.... Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit? And why make an account to lurk?

How about just: Have this many posts within this time of creating accuont or the account will be deleted.

This will just encourage low quality posts !
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on August 26, 2010, 03:11:49 AM

Make certain people "validate" these posts as legit?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Velocity EVO on August 26, 2010, 07:06:12 AM
Heres what i propose

EVERY ONE SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!!

its only a god damn game thats served its purpose, and im sick of members who keep saying 12 year olds are spammers and twits. So heres the deal: every hi-jacking spamming nut cases just shut up and the veterans worried about other members. Dont bother. everyone has a choice, you cant force people to open showcases and then flame them cos they dont. your not setting a good example yourself. This aint one of them im leaving comments. im just sick of all this flaming and slagging off the younger members. how about both shut up. Say nothing to each other for a while then everyone walks away satisfied.

NOW STOP FIGHTING!!!!
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Gazea2 on August 26, 2010, 07:57:53 AM
It's funny how I don't log on for one day and everyone posts. :P

Anyway, not many of you may know this but I'm 12. Yes, I'm 12. I've started a tournament and started a mod. Both of them are coming along nicely so, age doesn't come into this argument. N00bs can be any age. Anyway, you should be happy that we even have a forum for this game. This game is ~7 years old.

I don't really like the off-topic sections much but I do enjoy things like the Jokes thread and the General Chatter Thread. I do agree that people are focusing on the off-topic sections too much. This forum is for RA2, not for random threads that die in a day. More people should build. Hopefully, more people will build once Backlash and my pack come out.

Finally, I also agree that we should be nicer to newbies. Like Joe said, instead of whacking them we should nudge them into the correct direction. Hopefully, then, we will get less n00bs on this forum.

Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. :)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 26, 2010, 08:11:19 AM
Quote from: Velocity EVO on August 26, 2010, 07:06:12 AM
Heres what i propose

EVERY ONE SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!!

its only a god damn game thats served its purpose, and im sick of members who keep saying 12 year olds are spammers and twits. So heres the deal: every hi-jacking spamming nut cases just shut up and the veterans worried about other members. Dont bother. everyone has a choice, you cant force people to open showcases and then flame them cos they dont. your not setting a good example yourself. This aint one of them im leaving comments. im just sick of all this flaming and slagging off the younger members. how about both shut up. Say nothing to each other for a while then everyone walks away satisfied.

NOW STOP FIGHTING!!!!

You do seem to use a rather violent tone for someone who wants to stop the fighting...
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Velocity EVO on August 26, 2010, 08:29:53 AM
That is one of my traits.

but im just sick of spam and flaming every corner i turn. you cant swing a dead cat without hitting a clogged up flame thread.

I did not mean for violent tone. But that was what i thought would people listen cos my earlier post to sage was entirly ignored
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: JoeBlo on August 26, 2010, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: Velocity EVO on August 26, 2010, 08:29:53 AM
you cant swing a dead cat without hitting a clogged up flame thread.

people can make bad tourneys, reject advice.... but when you prevent dead cat swinging, they have gone to far dammit!

its just become personal you cat swinging preventers

(http://www3.obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/1427348-death-stare-of-death.gif)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Somebody on August 26, 2010, 04:18:49 PM
Minimum posts will never work! Some parts of the forum can only be accessed by members. And some join, do not post, disappear, and return to become mainstays. And it would just give mods and admins more things to do.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Serge on August 26, 2010, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo on August 26, 2010, 08:36:19 AM
(http://www3.obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/1427348-death-stare-of-death.gif)

ಠ_ಠ


look of disapproval
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 26, 2010, 08:20:12 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/72094ehamster.png)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 27, 2010, 03:54:39 AM
You should have used a cleaner copy paste not to have a BIG WHITE BOX (hecko there sparkles) on the hamster's head.

Oh and we already had many discussions about this, it mostly leaded to nothing and much flaming.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 27, 2010, 04:27:11 AM
Quote from: Naryar on August 27, 2010, 03:54:39 AM
You should have used a cleaner copy paste not to have a BIG WHITE BOX (hecko there sparkles) on the hamster's head.

Silly Frenchie! It wasn't worth THAT much effort.  :P
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: FOTEPX on August 27, 2010, 04:37:25 AM
I say let it die. It's had it's run. Think about it. We only have about 100 active members, the games about 7 years old, and we have a game section which is more active than half the other topics. It's had it's run, let the thing die allready.

Damn Backlash and NAR AI... LET IT DIE.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Scorpion on August 27, 2010, 11:23:43 AM
Soon after i join these forums, you start talking about closing it.

Thanks
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 27, 2010, 11:46:06 AM
who the heck is talking about closing the forums ?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 27, 2010, 01:44:04 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on August 27, 2010, 11:23:43 AM
Soon after i join these forums, you start talking about closing it.

Thanks
wat
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: freeziez on August 27, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Why does everyone consider me as big of a n00b as Sparkey?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: TeamXtreemer on August 27, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
Cant this thread just be closed.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: kill343gs on August 28, 2010, 12:15:49 AM
Quote from: TeamXtreemer on August 27, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
Cant this thread just be closed.

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3511/nahdawg.jpg)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Scorpion on August 28, 2010, 04:51:48 AM
Quote from: Naryar on August 27, 2010, 11:46:06 AM
who the heck is talking about closing the forums ?
I probably misinterpreted this thread a bit  :embarr
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: ianh05 on August 28, 2010, 05:12:43 AM
I thought this thread got deleted, all this topic was about is the fact that most of the posts these days are in the junk yard section when they should be in the showcase and tourney sections it was also about that no matter how much you help some newbies they never learn (referring to sparkey's baby steps showcase).

If you want some respect on the forums learn something about the game seeing as it's suppose to be the reason we all joined up here. instead of posting stupid smileys learn a glitch or something they would be more useful to you as a part of the community.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 28, 2010, 10:00:27 AM
I seem to have learned some!
Quote from: Sparkey98 on August 15, 2010, 08:08:26 PM
amidoneitright?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57417wat is this i dont even.png)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 28, 2010, 10:16:21 AM
Why are there PINKS?
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2010, 10:19:02 AM
becasue pinks are cool.... lol, jk... I would loose them if you want to survive this place :P
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Stagfish on August 28, 2010, 10:38:37 AM
You've shown us it beating easy bots...
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Naryar on August 28, 2010, 10:41:18 AM
Well Sparkles the bot's not bad, but first the splash is n00bish, second after 8 months on the forums you should be able to build better.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: G.K. on August 28, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Almost 100kg UNDERWIGHT too.
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on August 28, 2010, 11:10:38 AM
 :wtrd:
Heh, I'm probably the first GTMer to actually use this one  :yaya)
Title: Re: worried about the forums direction.
Post by: Sparkey98 on August 28, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: G.K. on August 28, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Almost 100kg UNDERWIGHT too.

I've pretty much given up on stock building anyway.
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