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Off-Topic => Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: Gropaga on October 20, 2012, 10:47:19 PM

Title: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Gropaga on October 20, 2012, 10:47:19 PM
I am thinking of upgrading my OS to 64bit.
Should i buy Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?


USAGE: I want to play games like RW:AOD.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Jamin on October 20, 2012, 10:52:58 PM
For the love of god whatever you go with do not make it 8.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 090901 on October 20, 2012, 11:08:49 PM
Can RW:AOD even be played on 64 bit?
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Linxus on October 20, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
For the love of god whatever you go with do not make it 8.
Why? Everything works perfect on x64.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 090901 on October 21, 2012, 12:36:58 AM
For the love of god whatever you go with do not make it 8.
Why? Everything works perfect on x64.
Windows 7/Windows Xp > Windows Vista > Windows 8
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Noodle on October 21, 2012, 02:12:58 AM
For the love of god whatever you go with do not make it 8.
Why? Everything works perfect on x64.

>not getting it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw#ws)
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Linxus on October 21, 2012, 02:14:07 AM
oh, i read 8 as x64
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 21, 2012, 07:40:33 AM
A lot of old games don't run on Win7. I'm not sure about the RW games, though. And Windows 8 is cancer on a screen.

Also, if you have 3GB of RAM or less, 32-bit is faster.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on October 21, 2012, 10:57:44 AM
For the love of god whatever you go with do not make it 8.
Why? Everything works perfect on x64.
Windows 7/Windows Xp > Windows Vista > Windows 8

Windows XP > Windows 7 > Windows 2000 > Windows 98 > Windows Vista > Windows 95 > Windows 8 > Windows NT > Windows ME
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Gropaga on October 21, 2012, 04:02:23 PM
A lot of old games don't run on Win7. I'm not sure about the RW games, though. And Windows 8 is cancer on a screen.

Also, if you have 3GB of RAM or less, 32-bit is faster.
RW games runs on Win7 with compatible mode.
I am thinking on upgrading RAM to 4GB of ram.
(Windows says that i only have 3GB of ram)
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 090901 on October 21, 2012, 04:08:39 PM
A lot of old games don't run on Win7. I'm not sure about the RW games, though. And Windows 8 is cancer on a screen.

Also, if you have 3GB of RAM or less, 32-bit is faster.
RW games runs on Win7 with compatible mode.
I am thinking on upgrading RAM to 4GB of ram.
(Windows says that i only have 3GB of ram)
Just get as much ram as your system will take d00d
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 21, 2012, 05:41:25 PM
If you have XP:
Keep it. Seriously. You'll thank us later.

If you don't have XP:
Get W7 32-bit.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2012, 01:18:53 AM
yeah xp is best
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 123savethewhales on October 23, 2012, 11:04:23 AM
The number of ram matters less than the quality of ram.  You only need 4GB for most things since they are still using 32-bit, but make sure they are all DDR3.

And yes, no reason to upgrade beyond XP unless you really want to run a program that doesn't run on it.  In that case use window 7.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
@123
Bullsh**, 8 gigs will always be better for gaming than 4 (Unless by quality you mean DDR3 vs DDR2)
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on October 23, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
@123
Bullsh**, 8 gigs will always be better for gaming than 4 (Unless by quality you mean DDR3 vs DDR2)

Pretty sure that's what he's saying.

RAMBUS, for the win.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
As far as I know, DDR2 stopped being used around the Bronze Age.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on October 23, 2012, 01:18:06 PM
As far as I know, DDR2 stopped being used around the Bronze Age.

...

Uh-huh...
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 02:16:07 PM
I'm le PC expert. You have to believe me, it's the internet.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 123savethewhales on October 23, 2012, 05:37:40 PM
As far as I know, DDR2 stopped being used around the Bronze Age.
No, Gateway, E-Machine, and other cheap ass brand still uses them.

The point is, don't just plug random rams in from *an old machine* unless you know they are DDR3.

And 8 gb always better than 4 gb is bullsh**.  Most games still run on 32 bits so they can't use more than 4 gigs.  How many games do you have that isn't install to Program Files (x86) by default and cannot run with 4gig ram?  The money is better spend on getting a good video card if you gonna *pay* for something.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 05:57:46 PM
Yes, but the OS takes up 1 or 2 gigs, and quite a lot is used by AV programs, Internet Browsers and other background programs. If I reduced my PC to 4 gigs, I wouldn't be able to do quite a lot of the things I do actually do on my PC.

Of course, if you have integrated graphics you're gonna have a bad time no matter what.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 123savethewhales on October 23, 2012, 06:11:23 PM
OS takes up to 1 or 2 gigs?  Not if you are running a 32 bit window XP and turn graphic to classic.  Even window 7 don't use that much as long as you turn off all the OS graphic settings/real time surveillance/smart tools.

Now of course if you want to run 20 different programs in the background and have the annoying OS graphic settings/real time surveillance/smart tools on, then sure you need a 64 bit machine with 8 gig ram.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
Ok, here's my PC stuff:
Win7 64-bit
8gb DDR3 RAM
1TB HDD
nVidia GTX580 graphics card
Intel i5 Sandy Bridge (OC'd to 3.3 GHz)

What I put it through:
2 constant tabs on Firefox (GTM and DayZDB.com map)
One or two games (Sometimes I'll alt-tab and forget about them.)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2012
Tekkit Server (2GB) Dedicated RAM
Often windows explorer, with my csgo folder and downloads folder open
Windows Task Manager
Sometimes iTunes

So yeah, that's why I need 8 gigs.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on October 23, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
I'm le PC expert.

Ok, here's my PC stuff:

Kaspersky Internet Security 2012

One or the other can be true... Never both.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 06:46:14 PM
Yeah, I didn't choose to put it on there. Weekly MBAM and ComboFix scans work much better than Kaspersky.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: SKBT on October 23, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
Yes, but the OS takes up 1 or 2 gigs, and quite a lot is used by AV programs, Internet Browsers and other background programs. If I reduced my PC to 4 gigs, I wouldn't be able to do quite a lot of the things I do actually do on my PC.

Of course, if you have integrated graphics you're gonna have a bad time no matter what.

i'm chilling at about 1.6g  with firefox, pandora and a java editor running on win7x64. the only time i ever really go above 2.5g is when i  run something like autodesk inventor and am working on a large assembly.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 090901 on October 23, 2012, 07:13:00 PM
I'm le PC expert.
Good news:
Got a nice gaming PC! :D

Bad news:
We have to build half of it, and none of the parts are labeled, and there the no instructions. FML.

Turns out that it was already built, and they gave us some random parts and bolts for free. -_-
 
:FFFUUU

My new 'gaming' computer runs BF3 at approx. 5 FPS and I can't find out how to change tabs in the system settings. So this 1k desktop is only marginally more powerful than my dad's Laptop (Judging by how well Minecraft runs), which is 1 year older and half the price.

In short; it's big, expensive and bloody useless. >=(
Most of the parts are asus, by the looks of things. Well, some of them, anyway.

And I would, if I knew how to build a working computer.

Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Ah, yes.

The PC came with a box of assorted crap, so I thought that I had to build part of it and went into a semi-rage mode.

And BF3 was failing because, for some reason, the PC was using integrated graphics instead of the graphics card. I had to fiddle with the (custom and very helpful) BIOS to get it to work.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on October 23, 2012, 08:04:16 PM
And BF3 was failing because, for some reason, the PC was using integrated graphics instead of the graphics card. I had to fiddle with the (custom and very helpful) BIOS to get it to work.

Step 1: Unplug monitor from integrated graphics output on motherboard.

Step 2: Plug into graphics card output in the expansion slots.

Step 3: Don't mess with the BIOS.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
Thanks for being a year late with that one. Besides, I got it fixed just fine. Now all I need to do is stop it vapourising everything that goes into the disc drive.
Title: Re: Win7 64bit or Win8 64bit?
Post by: 090901 on October 23, 2012, 08:37:04 PM
Thanks for being a year late with that one. Besides, I got it fixed just fine. Now all I need to do is stop it vapourising everything that goes into the disc drive.
ummmmm, buy a new one, they don't cost that much.