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Off-Topic => Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: Enigm@ on October 03, 2010, 04:08:53 PM
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Your favorite Thrash Metal Bands.
Mine:
*Slayer
*Megadeth
*Metallica (first four albums)
*Overkill
*Anthrax
*Testament
*Annihilator
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I've never listened to any, so unfortunately I can't comment.
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Your favorite Thrash Metal Bands.
Mine:
*Slayer
*Megadeth
*Metallica (first four albums)
*Overkill
*Anthrax
*Testament
*Annihilator
Slayer-needs to show some more progression to their playing style, their songs are commonly fast, but lack any amount of complexity.
Megadeth-One of my old-time favs :mrgreen:
Metallica-they is ma second favourite band of all time, yi hope you've actually listened to their albums outside the first 4, many people dismiss them without listening to them, even though they are very good albums (justice is still best though ;))
Overkill-another solid band, need to listen to more of them TBH
Anthrax-o.k, but give me armored saint over them anyday
Testament-Can't comment, never listened too them for some reason :confused:
Annihilator-More kudos to you mate, great band.
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Replace Annihilator with Nuclear Assault and you've got mine. Though I have listened to the other albums by Metallica.
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Darn. If you had posted this topic when I was in my thrash metal phase... :P
I'm in my technical prog/death metal nowadays, but I still listen to some thrash from time to time:
- Death Angel (yay Filipinos)
- Sepultura
- Byzantine (yeah, it's a thrash hybrid but that counts :P)
- God Forbid (also a thrash hybrid but it's awesome)
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Melodic/power/symphonic metal is better imo. Unless it's emo.
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You know what I'm gonna say Nary...
Power Metal sucks! It all sounds the same and is thin, bland, and genuinely dis-likable.
Yeah for me its:
Megadeth
Testament
Anthrax
Annihilator
then a few Death Metal bands like Meshuggah.
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It all sounds the same
That i agree with. But screaming isn't music.
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*ahem* pet peeve of mine. There's more to screaming than just screaming. most people don't realise it's actually just singing with a different type of emphasis. Therefore, if singing is music, screaming is as well.
That being said, "just screaming" isn't music. screaming correctly is. And, to me, someone who can switch back and forth seamlessly between screaming and singing, and do both well, is much more talented than someone who doesn't scream at all.
Of course, the above is all in my opinion alone.
*steps down off my minor rant platform*
That being said, Annihilator. Haven't listened to them in forever. Time to find them again.
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*ahem* pet peeve of mine. There's more to screaming than just screaming. most people don't realise it's actually just singing with a different type of emphasis. Therefore, if singing is music, screaming is as well.
That being said, "just screaming" isn't music. screaming correctly is. And, to me, someone who can switch back and forth seamlessly between screaming and singing, and do both well, is much more talented than someone who doesn't scream at all.
Of course, the above is all in my opinion alone.
*steps down off my minor rant platform*
That being said, Annihilator. Haven't listened to them in forever. Time to find them again.
Death metal growls all sound the same and take no skill though :p
Anyway some good thrash bands i have on my ipod that haven't been mentioned yet;
Armored saint
Evile
Heathen
Savage messiah
Rage
3 inches of blood (kinda)
Biohazard
Kreator
Raunchy
Voivod
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- Metallica's first 3 albums
First 3?
I know some people only like their thrash stuff but what about justice?[/list][/list]
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Your favorite Thrash Metal Bands.
Mine:
*Slayer
*Megadeth
*Metallica (first four albums)
*Overkill
*Anthrax
*Testament
*Annihilator
Slayer-needs to show some more progression to their playing style, their songs are commonly fast, but lack any amount of complexity.
Megadeth-One of my old-time favs :mrgreen:
Metallica-they is ma second favourite band of all time, yi hope you've actually listened to their albums outside the first 4, many people dismiss them without listening to them, even though they are very good albums (justice is still best though ;))
Overkill-another solid band, need to listen to more of them TBH
Anthrax-o.k, but give me armored saint over them anyday
Testament-Can't comment, never listened too them for some reason :confused:
Annihilator-More kudos to you mate, great band.
Actually, I listend to the Black album St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster and Death Magnetic, and I didn't like them to say lightly.
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Your favorite Thrash Metal Bands.
Mine:
*Slayer
*Megadeth
*Metallica (first four albums)
*Overkill
*Anthrax
*Testament
*Annihilator
Slayer-needs to show some more progression to their playing style, their songs are commonly fast, but lack any amount of complexity.
Megadeth-One of my old-time favs :mrgreen:
Metallica-they is ma second favourite band of all time, yi hope you've actually listened to their albums outside the first 4, many people dismiss them without listening to them, even though they are very good albums (justice is still best though ;))
Overkill-another solid band, need to listen to more of them TBH
Anthrax-o.k, but give me armored saint over them anyday
Testament-Can't comment, never listened too them for some reason :confused:
Annihilator-More kudos to you mate, great band.
Actually, I listend to the Black album St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster and Death Magnetic, and I didn't like them to say lightly.
Fair enoguh, as long as you actualy listened to them unlike the people who just prejudge them.
Thoguh if you didn't like DM I REALLY wouldn't bother listen to the loads.
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Ho ho you folks should listen to Opeth. Best Metal band period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvLn8j4c5l4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvLn8j4c5l4#)
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This is a thrash metal thread, guys. If you wanna rave about death metal, make another thread. :P
But yeah, Opeth's too soft for my liking, so I'm sticking to Meshuggah. :P
And I thought Rage was a power metal band? o_O
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Why only the first four Metallica albums? They're all good, except maybe St. Anger.
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Why only the first four Metallica albums? They're all good, except maybe St. Anger.
Stanger's a massive flip-flopper.
For every good bit theres a KILL KILL KILL KILL KIIIIIILLLL bit.
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This better not turn into a Metallica selling out thread.
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Metallica's selling-out era was at least bearable. There's always the Machine Head's Supercharger-era to cringe about. :P
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Why only the first four Metallica albums? They're all good, except maybe St. Anger.
Stanger's a massive flip-flopper.
For every good bit theres a KILL KILL KILL KILL KIIIIIILLLL bit.
I agree with that. St. Anger showed that they had a lot of great ideas, but just weren't in a good place to flesh those ideas out into great songs. The various live rearrangements that they've done to those songs have shown how awesome that album could have been. For instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huy4FHJN3wE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huy4FHJN3wE#)
The only two thrash bands I really got into were Metallica and Megadeth.
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That being said, "just screaming" isn't music. screaming correctly is. And, to me, someone who can switch back and forth seamlessly between screaming and singing, and do both well, is much more talented than someone who doesn't scream at all.
Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth. 'Nuff said.
Anyways, I've never really been a thrash guy. I've always liked the more sludge, stoner and prog stuff. I'm really digging Mastodon, Baroness, Opeth and Isis at the moment.
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Do Pantera count as a thrash metal band?
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You can probably consider early Pantera as thrash. They went to groove/southern later.
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I thought early Pantera was Glam?
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Their first was glam, but the second and third (and even CFH) has some thrash elements in it.
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They weren't really a thrash band, though. Not quite enough punk elements.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DkUqw_lNSo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DkUqw_lNSo#)
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what's the difference
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what's the difference
Between?
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Thrash death glam power sludge stoner prog groove southern metal.
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Thrash death glam power sludge stoner prog groove southern metal.
Huuuuge diffference between sub-genres when it comes to metal.
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could someone explain them? :)
without just giving band examples. like why they are considered like that.
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could someone explain them? :)
without just giving band examples. like why they are considered like that.
:ermm:
It's a bit tricky, pointing out the difference between ALL the sub-genres you mentioned.
For example though my favourite metal sub-genre is prog, which is about complex song structures, longer song lengths, usually extra instruments (e.g keyboards,orchestra) and can have varying kinds of vocalists.
Thrash though for example, is a faster and heavier version of classic metal basically, at it's core is usually quite simple musically, tends to stick to a band of 4 (i.e no keyboards or extra instruments).
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Thrash death glam power sludge stoner prog groove southern metal.
Thrash is essentially a combination of classic heavy metal (Black Sabbath and the like) and hardcore punk. It's really loud and fast with relatively simple song structures.
Death Metal is sh** with sh**ty vocals.
Prog(ressive) Metal is the metal equivalent of Progressive Rock. The song structures are very complex and the albums tend to revolve around a concept. Keyboards aren't a requirement, though they are often used.
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Thrash death glam power sludge stoner prog groove southern metal.
Death Metal is sh** with sh**ty vocals.
Biased much?
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Thrash death glam power sludge stoner prog groove southern metal.
Death Metal is sh** with sh**ty vocals.
Biased much?
RRRAAAAAAARGH SICK WORLD KILL DESTROY KICK PUPPIES RRRUAAAAAAAARGH
There. I'm guessing frez thinks it's sh** because of this.
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Grunts suck. Black metal is far superior as it often contains vocals that aren't complete crap. I will say that melodic death metal isn't all bad, though.
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It really depends on the band. Take Scar Symmetry, a band you haven't heard of (probably). Its death metal bt has clean vocals in many places. And sometimes the lyrics are very good. Opeth is sort of Symphonic Death Metal but is absolutely the best metal band on the planet for quality.
Here we go sage ;)
NWOBHM: This was the first kind of Heavy Metal and basically is like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, not extreme but very much like metal and rock mixed.
Thrash: Relies on fast tempos, not as fast as speed metal but very fast, with loud distorted guitars, with complex note patterns. Often features growled vocals. Good example is The Evil Has Landed by Testament.
Speed Metal: Basically patented by Motorhead and Anthrax in somewhat different styles. Very fast rhythm and a very punky attack, but with massively fast riffs. Probably the second hardest type to play after thrash. Ace Of Spades by Motorhead and Indians by Anthrax are your examples.
Black Metal: Genre basically made by Venom then made popular by Slayer. Like Death Metal but less extreme and with sung vocals. Varies a heck of a lot though. Two examples- My Twin by Katatonia and War Ensemble by Slayer are our examples.
Death Metal: A diverse range of genres come under this but it is mostly about very growly vocals and extremely heavy riffs. Can also be wonderfully well done as proven by a few band such as Opeth, Meshuggah, ISIS and Scar Symmetry. Our most generic example will be Bleed by Meshuggah.
Power Metal: A metal based off NWOBHM guitar and rythm wise but with higher guitar and cheap choir sound effects :P. Example is Mr. Torture by Helloween.
Nu Metal/Post Grunge: Characterised by rap and slowish industrial sounding riffs, this type of metal is by far the newest. Example is Stricken by Disturbed.
Progressive Metal: Scorpion loves this cause of Dream Theatre. Thrash metal with more progressive rock style riffs and keyboard backing very often.
Stoner: Basically rock, not very metallic to be honest...
Sludge: Slow, grungy rhythms and strange styling. I'm no expert here but Mastodon is your band example.
Hope my guide helped you Sage ;).
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NWOBHM: This was the first kind of Heavy Metal and basically is like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, not extreme but very much like metal and rock mixed. Yeah, your pretty spot on there, it's a good sub genre that's sadly dying out as most of the former N.W.O.B.H.M bands are either retired, or have changed their musical direction (for example iron maidens turning towards the progressive side :evilsmile:)
Thrash: Relies on fast tempos, not as fast as speed metal but very fast, with loud distorted guitars, with complex note patterns. Often features growled vocals. Good example is The Evil Has Landed by Testament. Thanks for pointing out the important fact that thrash is rather complexmusically, but I think that singing style in thrash is rather varied now, and unfortunately more "death style" than the N.W.O.B.H.M or hetfield style singers back in the 80's
Speed Metal: Basically patented by Motorhead and Anthrax in somewhat different styles. Very fast rhythm and a very punky attack, but with massively fast riffs. Probably the second hardest type to play after thrash. Ace Of Spades by Motorhead and Indians by Anthrax are your examples. I wouldn't call anthrax speed. Slayer were the big four of thrash band that pionered speed, anthrax pionered nu-metal(sadly), Metallica innovated on ol' fashioned heavy metal and Megadeth made dance/pop metal with risk
Black Metal: Genre basically made by Venom then made popular by Slayer. Like Death Metal but less extreme and with sung vocals. Varies a heck of a lot though. Two examples- My Twin by Katatonia and War Ensemble by Slayer are our examples. Once again slayer was speed/thrash not black, their songs are far too repetitive and stupid musically to be black ;). IMO black metal focuses on gothic styles rather than heavyness, but that's clearly up for debate
Death Metal: A diverse range of genres come under this but it is mostly about very growly vocals and extremely heavy riffs. Can also be wonderfully well done as proven by a few band such as Opeth, Meshuggah, ISIS and Scar Symmetry. Our most generic example will be Bleed by Meshuggah. Death metal is basically to metalwhat metal is to rock. You can put all kind of sub genres within death metal if you want (for example I think opeth are primarily progressive death metal). Still think the majority of death is too immature and lacks direction
Power Metal: A metal based off NWOBHM guitar and rythm wise but with higher guitar and cheap choir sound effects :P. Example is Mr. Torture by Helloween. Don't disrespect power metal! I know the genre has many flaws and often falls to the same stereo-types, but I still enjoying listening to some of it now and then
Nu Metal Is not music, is unredeamable, is immature lyrically, musically and imagewise and everytime i see somebody wearing a slipknot shirt part of me dies inside
Progressive Metal: Scorpion loves this cause of Dream Theatre. Thrash metal with more progressive rock style riffs and keyboard backing very often. It's Dream Theater, not Dream Theatre ahem, sorry about that, but yeah progressive metal = win all over.
Don't know what you mean by the thrash metal comparrison though :confused:
Sludge: Slow, grungy rhythms and strange styling. I'm no expert here but Mastodon is your band example.
Relatively new genre, I like it a lot though, very unique, often mixed with many progressive elements aswell which is only a good thing, crack the skye FTW
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NWOBHM: This was the first kind of Heavy Metal and basically is like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, not extreme but very much like metal and rock mixed.
It was actually the second kind (hence the name). New Wave of British Heavy Metal takes the very bluesy elements of the first wave (Black Sabbath) and combines some elements of punk.
Speed Metal: Basically patented by Motorhead and Anthrax in somewhat different styles. Very fast rhythm and a very punky attack, but with massively fast riffs. Probably the second hardest type to play after thrash. Ace Of Spades by Motorhead and Indians by Anthrax are your examples.
While I'm not necessarily disagreeing, Lemmy of Motörhead doesn't like to call his band a metal band. He insists that he's doing "Rock & Roll". It's a fair point considering how easy it is to hear the Rockabilly influence.
Black Metal: Genre basically made by Venom then made popular by Slayer. Like Death Metal but less extreme and with sung vocals. Varies a heck of a lot though. Two examples- My Twin by Katatonia and War Ensemble by Slayer are our examples.
Slayer is Thrash. Along with Venom, Mercyful Fate was also a Black Metal pioneer. King Diamond of MF helped define the image by introducing corpse paint.
Nu Metal/Post Grunge: Characterised by rap and slowish industrial sounding riffs, this type of metal is by far the newest. Example is Stricken by Disturbed.
Bad example. Disturbed stopped being Nu-Metal after their first album. By the time the song "Stricken" came out, they had gone Hard Rock.
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TECHNICAL METAL FTW!
Death Metal: A diverse range of genres come under this but it is mostly about very growly vocals and extremely heavy riffs. Can also be wonderfully well done as proven by a few band such as Opeth, Meshuggah, ISIS and Scar Symmetry. Our most generic example will be Bleed by Meshuggah. Death metal is basically to metalwhat metal is to rock. You can put all kind of sub genres within death metal if you want (for example I think opeth are primarily progressive death metal). Still think the majority of death is too immature and lacks direction
They seems immature because their lyrics can't go anywhere else. Unless the majority are creative with their lyrics like Meshuggah, they can't sing about robot unicorns and being gangsta.
Also, no one mentioned groove, avant-garde and industrial. :(
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Industrial music (FRANK KLEPACKI <333) is awesome, but can that even be considered a subgenre of metal ? I'll consider it as somewhat of an hybrid between metal and electronic music, but NOT metal.
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Industrial music (FRANK KLEPACKI <333) is awesome, but can that even be considered a subgenre of metal ? I'll consider it as somewhat of an hybrid between metal and electronic music, but NOT metal.
Industrial is a genre within itself, depending on the band it can vary from rock roots to death metal roots.
Still, I do like some industrial, only listened to a few albums by various artists though so wouldn't say i'm a proper fan yet.
TECHNICAL METAL FTW!
They seems immature because their lyrics can't go anywhere else. Unless the majority are creative with their lyrics like Meshuggah, they can't sing about robot unicorns and being gangsta.
Also, no one mentioned groove, avant-garde and industrial. :(
Groove's quite good, never heard any avant-garde though :embarr
And yeah, a lot of death metal is about the image more than the music, they go past the point of being heavy with a purpose IMO.
Still I do like opeth, and the genre itself as a whole isn't too bad compared to others.
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I think we should change the title at this point...
Oh dear I forgot that sh*t called Grindcore. For those of you don't know, it's a style of Death Metal that gets rid of all melody. It sucks.
Some industrial metal... Ministry?
And I forgot Screamo. It's a style relying prominently on vocals and fast thrashy guitars. However it mixes punk pop elements too and is usually categorized as emo.
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And I forgot Screamo. It's a style relying prominently on vocals and fast thrashy guitars. However it mixes punk pop elements too and is usually categorized as emo.
Yeah, screamo sucks.
And a title change is probably best as the topics more about metal in general now.
Also reading this thread makes me want to write more songs :mrgreen:
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What about classic metal? Bands like Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Dio etc.(just using those because people are familiar with them). Black Sabbath was around more than decade before NWOBHM. Plus when british heavy metal came Black Sabbath had Dio who is american and I've never heard anyone say Ozzy was part of NWOBHM.
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Change the topic name to 'Metal et al.'!
ZOMG IT RHYMES :O
Oh dear I forgot that sh*t called Grindcore. For those of you don't know, it's a style of Death Metal that gets rid of all melody. It sucks.
y u be hatin' on Napalm Death :(
Also, screamo's got nothing on crunkcore. These should be the music people use to torture criminals.
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What about classic metal? Bands like Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Dio etc.(just using those because people are familiar with them). Black Sabbath was around more than decade before NWOBHM. Plus when british heavy metal came Black Sabbath had Dio who is american and I've never heard anyone say Ozzy was part of NWOBHM.
Not only did Black Sabbath have Dio, but it also had Vinny Appice on drums (who is from Brooklyn).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrw6QX4Atx0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrw6QX4Atx0#)
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I love classic metal, Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, all of 'em.