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Title: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on April 09, 2010, 11:18:26 AM: So my Macbook keeps failing (now the HD is damaged visibly, yet it works) and i am really looking forward to buy a new comp.

I went to a local store and saw this : Acer Aspire 7715Z-444G50Mn

But am not sure about the quality. Is Acer good ?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: G.K. on April 09, 2010, 11:22:51 AM: I have an Acer PC. It seems to work fine, but I've never tested it to the extreme.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on April 09, 2010, 11:36:17 AM: I have used acer stuff for years seems ok to m.... *cuts out*

:P

just as long as its not dell as they periodically explode (no joke)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: G.K. on April 09, 2010, 11:37:44 AM: Quote from: JoeBlo on April 09, 2010, 11:36:17 AM
just as long as its not dell as they periodically explode (no joke)

QFT from experience
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on April 09, 2010, 11:52:48 AM: Acer hardware is horrible. The power jacks fail (on all the four laptops my family owned). Their support is horrible, and they lost my PDA. Do not buy. Also avoid HP computers, they fail very fast.

If you want a laptop, you can't go wrong with Lenovo (IBM) ThinkPads.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 09, 2010, 01:11:09 PM: I love my Acer desktop. <3 It has been very good to me.

Serge is right about Lenovo laptops... but be prepared to pay much more. (they are often more expensive for the same specs)

I don't agree about the hardware or power jacks though. Their quality is usually very good and has improved a ton over the past 3 years. Their support is, indeed, horrible though.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on April 09, 2010, 01:44:12 PM: Well, I must've hit bad luck with that Acer hardware I owned.

Lenovo's higher price is worth the price - that laptop will last you forever.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 09, 2010, 01:50:16 PM: <3 Vaio.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on April 09, 2010, 01:53:45 PM: Meh, vaios. Way overpriced, plus I don't really like Sony for what approach they have to customers.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 09, 2010, 05:57:56 PM: Depends on how many years you plan on using this laptop. I had to send my Acer for repair within the first week, then it lasted about 3 years. Get them if you want something cheap and disposable. I won't buy an Acer for over 700 dollars.

IBM laptop cost more and will last, but it can't avoid being obsolete even if it's still operational.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Pwnator on April 09, 2010, 08:56:47 PM: Hahahaha. I've had terrible experience with Acer laptops. My friend told me HPs and Sonies aren't worth the price. No one in school owns a Lenovo, but our teacher owns an Asus, and he's pretty satisfied with the performance.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:10:35 AM: I <3 my macbook/boot camp hybrid. Works wonders. Might be a bit pricey tho.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: frezal on April 10, 2010, 12:21:07 AM: Quote from: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:10:35 AM
I <3 my macbook/boot camp hybrid. Works wonders. Might be a bit pricey tho.
Do you have a Pro?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:26:13 AM: yea macbook pro. but not the newest model.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on April 10, 2010, 04:45:12 AM: Quote from: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:10:35 AM
I <3 my macbook/boot camp hybrid. Works wonders. Might be a bit pricey tho.

It will get screwed at one point :P

Anyways, comp is fixed, RA2 and everythings works again. There's still a bt of hardware problems so i'll buy another comp soon. Probably.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Reier on April 10, 2010, 08:57:04 AM: Hey I'll take it if you don't want it. :P
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 10, 2010, 12:04:43 PM: Oh hey, Just wanted to throw this out there, Toshiba makes really good laptops these days. They also price them fair now (they used to be like Sony but they wised up). I have a couple of Toshiba models at my store that sell for less than 700 bucks and they are nicely designed / equipped. Might be worth looking into, because I have heard pretty good things about Toshiba's support.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:09:54 PM: Doesn't Toshiba = HP?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Reier on April 10, 2010, 12:12:59 PM: No.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 10, 2010, 12:14:30 PM: Quote from: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:09:54 PM
Doesn't Toshiba = HP?

Nah, They are totally independant companies. HP will often use Toshiba branded drives and RAM in their computers (because Toshiba manufactures those components).

In case you were mixed up:

Compaq = HP (HP bought compaq out 4 or 5 years ago. They use the Compaq name for their cheaper / low end stuff.)
E-Machines = Acer (Acer bought out E-machines appx 3 years ago for the same reason)
Gateway = Dell? (Gateway was bought up... I think it was by Dell but I am fuzzy on that one)
Alienware = Dell (Unfortunately, Dell bought up Alienware to beef up their high-end gaming division... It also put the brand in Best Buy as a result)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Sage on April 10, 2010, 12:16:38 PM: ohhh Yeah I was thinking of Compaq. Sorry xD
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Reier on April 10, 2010, 12:16:48 PM: No, I think Gateway and Dell are different. I'm using a Gateway laptop now... maybe the names are separate, IDK. They could be owned by Dell, I'm no expert.
I was wondering what happened to Compaq though.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 10, 2010, 12:24:29 PM: Quote from: Reier on April 10, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
No, I think Gateway and Dell are different. I'm using a Gateway laptop now... maybe the names are separate, IDK. They could be owned by Dell, I'm no expert.
I was wondering what happened to Compaq though.

I just looked it up... and I was wrong about them being owned by Dell.

They are actually owned by Acer as well. I had forgot about that because, initially, Gateway first bought E-Machines to have a cheap computer lineup with a different name. When Acer acquired e-Machines they also bought up Gateway as part of the deal.

Gateway still operates pretty independently from Acer though. They still have most of their original tech-support offices. E-machines on the other hand is totally absorbed by Acer and really bears no resemblance to the original company that it once was.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Reier on April 10, 2010, 12:27:38 PM: Speaking of Gateway tech support.... it's in India. Believe me, I know.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on April 10, 2010, 12:27:51 PM: Quote from: Jack Daniels on April 10, 2010, 12:14:30 PM
Alienware = Dell

great so now alienware computers explode too
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: frezal on April 10, 2010, 12:51:46 PM: Quote from: JoeBlo on April 10, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on April 10, 2010, 12:14:30 PM
Alienware = Dell

great so now alienware computers explode too
Dell has owned Alienware for a few years now.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: kill343gs on April 11, 2010, 12:37:28 AM: My dell doesn't explode. At least not this one. My old dell 3 computers ago the chipset heatsink fell off because it was glued on instead of clipped... It fried the motherboard.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on April 11, 2010, 01:45:32 AM: Is E-Machines good ?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 11, 2010, 10:32:39 AM: Quote from: Naryar on April 11, 2010, 01:45:32 AM
Is E-Machines good ?

E-Machines is Acer's cheap cheap cheap brand. I have had pretty good luck with their monitors so far... But their computers on the other hand are manufactured with very low-end components. Because of this, they are usually unfriendly with upgrades like Video Cards. I, honestly, don't think you would be very happy with an E-Machines computer.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 12, 2010, 03:39:46 AM: If Acer is low end, and E-Machine is even worst..... It will be like a n00b trying to troll by spamming fail-bots with a different username.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on April 13, 2010, 09:54:40 AM: just thought I would throw this in :mrgreen:

Dell's Explosive Laptop Sale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-16HiwrZPR0#)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: DuckRA2 on April 28, 2010, 10:07:57 PM: my list
1. gateway
2. hp

acer is TERRIBLE and I mean it, the plastic is cheap and wobbly, they are extremely poorly made. The hinges on the laptops they make are extremely fragile... basically they suck.
my laptop is a 14.1 gateway 2gb memory, with black patterned plastic (really easy to scratch) and a brushed aluminum sort of material. I love it
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: inplabth on May 03, 2010, 10:24:38 PM: My suggestion, build one from individually ordered parts. Contrary to how it seems, it's not hard. If you think about it, the parts come from all over the world and they have to make sure that anyone, anywhere can put them together. Each part will only fit in one place, one way.

Slightly more on topic, though, Acer's not too bad, Gateway isn't good, HP's alright, Dell's a no-no, and Alienware's like burning money.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: DuckRA2 on May 03, 2010, 10:40:18 PM: gateways are reliable and customer service is great... you obviously don't know what you are typing...
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Condor33 on May 04, 2010, 09:55:01 PM: Quote from: inplabth on May 03, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
My suggestion, build one from individually ordered parts. Contrary to how it seems, it's not hard. If you think about it, the parts come from all over the world and they have to make sure that anyone, anywhere can put them together. Each part will only fit in one place, one way.

This is true, you really are just snapping premade parts together. There is a downside to this though: be prepared for four months of reading reviews and browsing Newegg before you're completely satisfied.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on May 05, 2010, 04:11:28 AM: Quote from: inplabth on May 03, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
My suggestion, build one from individually ordered parts. Contrary to how it seems, it's not hard.

For a laptop ?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on May 05, 2010, 05:51:07 PM: Quote from: DuckRA2 on May 03, 2010, 10:40:18 PM
gateways are reliable and customer service is great... you obviously don't know what you are typing...

And Acer owns Gateway. Lol.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: DuckRA2 on May 05, 2010, 06:07:05 PM: I know that, but they are still separate mostly.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on May 05, 2010, 06:35:00 PM: Quote from: DuckRA2 on May 05, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
I know that, but they are still separate mostly.

Heheh. It's cool. I was just picking on yah in a friendly way. :evilsmile:

I, honestly find this entire thread to be amusing because everyone seems to base their opinion on their individual experience. Computers are so fickle in general that sometimes you win sometimes you lose. Heck, 80 percent of the time computer problems are software/config issues that aren't even related to the construction quality of the machine.

Customers bring computers into our tech dept all the time complaining that the computer is "a piece of crap" because it runs slow. But, usually, they are idiots that are running 10 Explorer windows of Flash based Pron with only 1 gig of RAM while trying to multitask a billion other things.

On the subject of hardware failures, our number one repair request is hard drives. And even though your computer can be an Acer, HP, Compaq, Gateway, whatever... it is still going to most likely have a drive made by Toshiba, Hitachi, Western Digital, etc etc. Most of these computer companies use the same drives by the same manufacturers.

The other common failure is Power Supplies. And this is why I don't favor Dell because their power supplies (Laptop and Desktop) are usually proprietary and have to be replaced directly through them. Proprietary construction methods = headache when you want to repair the machine yourself (boooo Dell and Sony)

It is a mixed bag. My Acer desktop has been good to me, but the Acer laptop that I sold my neighbor just broke last week. (video ribbon cable is coming loose, resulting in a finicky screen when opened) My friends brand new Dell barfed a hard drive after only 4 months of use. They sent a tech out to replace it, but it was still disappointing. My Apple laptop is 12 years old and works fine for what I use it. The only thing wrong with it, is the daughtercard fried and it wont charge the battery anymore. But I just use it on my desk, so I don't care. I have an old Dell desktop that runs strong and happy, but my folks Dell laptop has been giving them trouble since day one.

So, really, at this point Naryar. All I can say is: "Don't buy a brand you have never even heard of." :P
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: DuckRA2 on May 05, 2010, 06:42:38 PM: do you repair computers?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Jack Daniels on May 05, 2010, 06:54:23 PM: Quote from: DuckRA2 on May 05, 2010, 06:42:38 PM
do you repair computers?

I work on the computers that I have at home. But, at work, I manage inventory/shipping/receiving. I work for a worldwide electronics retailer that sells and services computers.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: inplabth on May 06, 2010, 10:30:35 PM: Quote from: Naryar on May 05, 2010, 04:11:28 AM
For a laptop ?
Oops, disregard my post, then. :gawe:
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on September 15, 2010, 06:58:01 AM: BUMP

So ? Gateway is my best bet ?

(I'm going to buy something real soon since my comp fails even moar)

I seek something with a decent graphics card, not less than 2Ghz processor, 1 or 2 MB RAM and that's pretty much everything. Don't need a beast, but don't want less than i have already.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2010, 07:50:11 AM: this is what you need for your computer

Link (http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=26242&locale=en_US)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on September 15, 2010, 08:43:06 AM: Stop being childish, i'm not going to spend hundreds of additional euros for just a game.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2010, 09:24:07 AM: gee what stick is up your ass today :rolleyes:

SC2 is hardly a very demanding game for Hardware,
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: NFX on September 16, 2010, 05:57:19 AM: If you're still wondering about Acers, I've had my Aspire 2920 Laptop for almost three years or so now, and aside from the hard drive losing magnetism a few months ago (they told me it was just being overused a little bit, and it was a good excuse to get Windows 7), everything still seems to be working fine. 2 GHz processor, 2 GB of RAM, graphics card seems fine to me, but if you want to upgrade it, then you probably could. Plastic skin seems slightly loose on one corner, but that's more or less just aesthetics, and the specs are pretty much good enough for what I tend to use it for. I can get around three or four applications going at once (IE8, Paint.NET, GP5, WMP, mostly) without any significant lag. And it should hold together provided that you look after it properly, carrying it around, storage and such.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Noodle on September 16, 2010, 12:55:46 PM: Acers are pretty good laptops.

The best, in my opinion, are Toshibas. They're a bit on the expensive side, though.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on September 22, 2010, 03:57:54 AM: Ok, so i searched a few and Gateway NS50 is looking good.

It has good specs for a rather low price (well, "low" compared to how much i bought my macbook :P)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 10:00:18 AM: I might take a toshiba finally. They seem to have a good reputation in quality.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:09:21 AM: reputation +3?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 10:47:39 AM: Quote from: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:09:21 AM
reputation +3?

Not THIS reputation, you fool ! Reputation as in fame, as in... GAH ! It's the same word in french ! STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE ME !
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:49:13 AM: Quote from: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 10:43:54 AM
TROLL'D

my friend ;D
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 10:55:09 AM: Quote from: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 10:43:54 AM
TROLL'D

my friend ;D

Sigh. Why cannot I have an on-topic (GODDAMNIT THYRUS YOU CONFUSED ME SO MUCH I WAS GOING TO WRITE OFF-TOPIC RATHER THAN ON-TOPIC) clear, simple, INTELLIGENT answer when I ask a simple question ?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:59:49 AM: you should ask in a thread that you can moderate. Then you could bann me from that :D
and NEVER EVER expect an intelligent answer from me! NEVER! (CAPSLOCK DAY!)
ok... sometimes maybe...
Buy that Toshiba if you like or wait til someone gives you a better advise :P
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 11:35:24 AM: Quote from: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
you should ask in a thread that you can moderate. Then you could bann me from that[/size]

I am A SIMPLE mod. I cannot BAN.

Quote from: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
and NEVER EVER expect an intelligent answer from me! NEVER! (CAPSLOCK DAY!)

MANY thanks, i WILL be SURE to REMEMBER this most WISE PIECE OF information.

Quote from: Thyrus on October 05, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
]Buy that Toshiba if you like or wait til someone gives you a better advise :P[/size]

I have LURKED enough ON THE internet, I will BUY A toshiba.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 06:50:55 AM: OK, i've bought on the internets a Toshiba Satellite L630-10r. Four years guaranteed at roughly 900 euros.

Should come soon (tomorrow or in 2 days) by mail :P
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on October 11, 2010, 06:59:07 AM: those Toshiba Satellite's are good from what I know... my sister has had one for 4 years no problems mechanically (I say that because it has vista :P)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 07:08:12 AM: Yes, from what i see on the web Toshiba has a good reputation for quality computers.

4 GB of RAM is gonna help :P And i'm probably never going to fill the 500 GB's of HD XD

And i have something less sh**ty than an Intel GMA.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Thyrus on October 11, 2010, 07:17:40 AM: Quote
NEVER EVER expect an intelligent answer from me! NEVER! (CAPSLOCK DAY!)
Buy that Toshiba if you like or wait til someone gives you a better advise :P

That was a riddle... you failed :O :P

Hope the new one works as you want it to :)
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 07:21:27 AM: Quote from: Thyrus on October 11, 2010, 07:17:40 AM
Quote
NEVER EVER expect an intelligent answer from me! NEVER! (CAPSLOCK DAY!)
Buy that Toshiba if you like or wait til someone gives you a better advise :P

That was a riddle... you failed :O :P

Hope the new one works as you want it to :)

More like spam.

And i don't have the comp yet, i must wait for shipping :P Maybe this evening or tomorrow...
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on October 11, 2010, 08:21:37 AM: Quote from: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 07:08:12 AM
And i'm probably never going to fill the 500 GB's of HD XD

10 billion robot designs? :O
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 09:29:08 AM: Quote from: JoeBlo on October 11, 2010, 08:21:37 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 07:08:12 AM
And i'm probably never going to fill the 500 GB's of HD XD

10 billion robot designs? :O

I am in university. I don't have much time.

Plus, having built so much designs, i don't have many ideas left now...
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: ACAMS on October 11, 2010, 10:31:05 AM: I have been buying Toshiba for about 5 years, and had one total piece of junk, and my favorite one lasted 2 years and then the motherboard went bad and they wanted over $600.00 to fix after keeping it for about 8 months.
If it goes bad after warranty......just go buy a new one and don't mess with them.
They did fix 2-3 that were still under warranty and got them back to me pretty quick.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 11, 2010, 10:41:36 AM: Quote from: ACAMS on October 11, 2010, 10:31:05 AM
I have been buying Toshiba for about 5 years, and had one total piece of junk, and my favorite one lasted 2 years and then the motherboard went bad and they wanted over $600.00 to fix after keeping it for about 8 months.
If it goes bad after warranty......just go buy a new one and don't mess with them.
They did fix 2-3 that were still under warranty and got them back to me pretty quick.

Well, i have 2 years of "replace with new comp if it fails" warranty, and +2 years of "free repair" warranty to be precise.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Hydro on October 11, 2010, 11:23:32 AM: Duct tape + spare parts. Doo eet.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Noodle on October 11, 2010, 12:35:23 PM: Just curious, is your CPU an AMD or Intel? AMD has a pretty bad reputation for their mobile processors.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Incredirobotwars on October 11, 2010, 12:40:38 PM: Damn Nary for not waiting for a suggestion: the Toshiba Libretto!
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 12, 2010, 04:27:29 AM: Quote from: Noodle on October 11, 2010, 12:35:23 PM
Just curious, is your CPU an AMD or Intel? AMD has a pretty bad reputation for their mobile processors.

Intel Core I3-330M 2.13ghz

Quote from: incredirobotwars on October 11, 2010, 12:40:38 PM
Damn Nary for not waiting for a suggestion: the Toshiba Libretto!

I WAITED MORE THAN ENOUGH.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Incredirobotwars on October 12, 2010, 02:19:40 PM: I'd only just found the thread. Anyway, the Toshiba Libretto is a laptop where there is another screen where the keyboard should be. Both screens have multitouch, too!
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 19, 2010, 03:08:48 AM: I am using it right now :D

The touchpad is a BITCH, but otherwise it's pretty nice.

RA2 Stock even works on Windows 7 with compatibility mode and in the Program Files (x86) folder.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Incredirobotwars on October 19, 2010, 07:48:48 AM: Cool. As long as you're happy. Touchpads are usually BITCHes anyway.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on October 19, 2010, 10:29:44 AM: Im in the market for a Laptop now... something high end to do my work on the go.. shame there so damn expensive...

I mean you can get the Acer netbooks for a cheap couple of hundred but they cant handle more then internet browsing :P
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on October 19, 2010, 11:47:36 AM: Quote from: JoeBlo on October 19, 2010, 10:29:44 AM
Im in the market for a Laptop now... something high end to do my work on the go.. shame they're so damn expensive...

I mean you can get the Acer netbooks for a cheap couple of hundred but they cant handle more then internet browsing :P

Macbook. Sorry, but if you're gonna spend a lot of money, this is your best bet.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Naryar on October 19, 2010, 11:49:40 AM: Quote from: Serge on October 19, 2010, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on October 19, 2010, 10:29:44 AM
Im in the market for a Laptop now... something high end to do my work on the go.. shame they're so damn expensive...

I mean you can get the Acer netbooks for a cheap couple of hundred but they cant handle more then internet browsing :P

Macbook. Sorry, but if you're gonna spend a lot of money, this is your best bet.

he needs something that can handle starcraft 2 :p
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on October 19, 2010, 11:51:43 AM: Quote from: Naryar on October 19, 2010, 11:49:40 AM
Quote from: Serge on October 19, 2010, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on October 19, 2010, 10:29:44 AM
Im in the market for a Laptop now... something high end to do my work on the go.. shame they're so damn expensive...

I mean you can get the Acer netbooks for a cheap couple of hundred but they cant handle more then internet browsing :P

Macbook. Sorry, but if you're gonna spend a lot of money, this is your best bet.

he needs something that can handle starcraft 2 :p

I think the new Macbook Pro's will. Provided you install Windows on them.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: frezal on October 19, 2010, 04:59:43 PM: Starcraft 2 Mac Requirements:

Mac Minimum System Requirements:
MacÂ® OS X 10.5.8, 10.6.2 or newer
IntelÂ® Processor
NVIDIAÂ® GeForceÂ® 8600M GT or ATI RadeonÂ® X1600 or better
12 GB available HD space
2 GB Ram
DVD-ROM drive
Broadband Internet connection
1024X720 minimum display resolution

Mac Recommended Specifications:
IntelÂ® Core 2 Duo processor
4 GB system RAM
NVIDIAÂ® GeForceÂ® 9600M GT or ATI RadeonÂ® HD 4670 or better

Most newer Macs should be able to run it.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 19, 2010, 06:22:54 PM: A Mac? For gaming? Bitch please.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Sage on October 19, 2010, 08:04:32 PM: Apples are the best computers for gaming. But mac OS cant handle it. therefore, install windows on your mac via boot camp. because, windows is the superior OS.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on October 20, 2010, 06:13:43 AM: Quote from: Serge on October 19, 2010, 11:47:36 AM
Macbook. Sorry, but if you're gonna spend a lot of money, this is your best bet.

I never rules out a Macbook.. we down here just cal all portable computers Laptops no matter the brand :P

its either a Mac or Toshiba, I know I can run SC2 on either but its mainly for being able to do work on the go, which for graphics wise I would rather a mac but it means a heap of re-buying stuff too..
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Condor33 on November 04, 2010, 06:08:20 AM: Anyone know of a laptop with an integrated 9800 series card? That would run it.
Quote from: Sage on October 19, 2010, 08:04:32 PM
Apples are the best computers for gaming.

Why?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Enigm@ on November 04, 2010, 06:12:34 AM: Just build your own computer.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Condor33 on November 04, 2010, 06:20:40 AM: I don't think he want's to do that...
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Enigm@ on November 04, 2010, 06:22:27 AM: Then buy a computer you feel is best for you.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on November 04, 2010, 11:08:13 AM: eh, I dropped the Laptop for now in favor of an Android Phone for various reasons..
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 04, 2010, 05:22:28 PM: I'm considering purchasing an Alienware computer. It turns out they aren't nearly as expensive as I've always heard they were.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Sage on November 04, 2010, 07:06:13 PM: Quote from: Condor33 on November 04, 2010, 06:08:20 AM
Anyone know of a laptop with an integrated 9800 series card? That would run it.
Quote from: Sage on October 19, 2010, 08:04:32 PM
Apples are the best computers for gaming.

Why?

Because all hardware is built by apple (for the most part) meaning everything fits together much more nicely and the Intel processors and graphics cards are usually top notch. But the Mac OS sucks, so install windows 7 on it.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on November 04, 2010, 10:35:46 PM: anyone have some graphics/ video card suggestions ? (from people that actually know what they are talking about and not just listing what is in there friends computer)

My current hardware..

CPU Speed: Intel Duel Core, 2.39 GHz Performance Rated at: 3.585 GHz

RAM: 2gb

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (build 2600)

Current Video Card: Intel(R) GMA 3100

Video RAM 384.0 MB
Pixel Shader version 2.0

I want nothing worse obviously, something good, compatible, with Hardware T&L and Vertex Shader version 2.0 (at least) and probably not to expensive.

any thoughts?
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on November 05, 2010, 11:20:24 AM: Quote from: Sage on November 04, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: Condor33 on November 04, 2010, 06:08:20 AM
Anyone know of a laptop with an integrated 9800 series card? That would run it.
Quote from: Sage on October 19, 2010, 08:04:32 PM
Apples are the best computers for gaming.

Why?

Because all hardware is built by apple (for the most part) meaning everything fits together much more nicely

That is absolute bullsh**.

Apple doesn't "build" their hardware. A Mac is just a PC with a TPM (trusted platform module) so it is allowed to be running OS X. It's the same manufacturers who make components for them and for any other computer company.

A component is a component - doesn't matter who are they made by (actually, most components are made by the same manufacturers - realtek, samsung, amd, nvidia, intel), and they all follow standards. A Gigabyte motherboard is gonna work with a Sapphire graphics card the same way an Asus motherboard will work with a ENVGA graphics card or an Asus motherboard with an Asus graphics card. Why? Because it's the same design (for graphics cards) and the same chips (for every computer component). Companies who sell components usually buy designs from chip manufacturers (unless they overclock their components), slap their logo onto it and ship it.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: ACAMS on November 05, 2010, 12:10:00 PM: Quote from: JoeBlo on November 04, 2010, 10:35:46 PM
anyone have some graphics/ video card suggestions ? (from people that actually know what they are talking about and not just listing what is in there friends computer)

My current hardware..

CPU Speed: Intel Duel Core, 2.39 GHz Performance Rated at: 3.585 GHz

RAM: 2gb

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (build 2600)

Current Video Card: Intel(R) GMA 3100

Video RAM 384.0 MB
Pixel Shader version 2.0

I want nothing worse obviously, something good, compatible, with Hardware T&L and Vertex Shader version 2.0 (at least) and probably not to expensive.

any thoughts?

Looks like you have an old slow computer, and just about ANY video card will be better.

Just get an ATI based video card in your budget range and it will be much better than you have.

BS SURE to check what type slot you have ......like AGP, PCI, PCI-E as they do not interchange.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Serge on November 05, 2010, 04:27:50 PM: You need way more RAM. It's cheap these days, get at least 4GB. Also, new graphics card.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on November 06, 2010, 05:25:27 AM: computer is about 2 years old... just wondering, I was considering buying an i5 or i7
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Condor33 on November 06, 2010, 09:20:37 AM: You'll need to make sure your motherboard and power supply can run those things. Ram doesn't use a lot of power add as much as your OS can support. But high powered video cards can use hundreds of watts, and a new i7 probably won't be supported by something that old.
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: JoeBlo on November 06, 2010, 09:43:18 AM: Quote from: Condor33 on November 06, 2010, 09:20:37 AM
and a new i7 probably won't be supported by something that old.

???

I was talking about buying a complete i7 computer not adding one to my old computer
Title: Re: New Computer ?
Post by: Condor33 on November 07, 2010, 09:04:00 PM: Never mind then