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Title: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 20, 2011, 12:15:27 PM: I found an Ibanez GSA06LTD on sale for about 115 pounds, what do you guys think? i REALLY need a good guitar and an Ibanez is the way i want to go.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 20, 2011, 02:43:22 PM: I wouldn't recomend it. Agathis isn't the greatest tonewood and the tremolo is unlocked. It also generally looks a fairly average instrument with the bolt on neck. I'd try and get one of the LTD starter models due to the 24 fret neck and basswood body; Basswood is used even on some truly amazing instruments like Music Man Petrucci's, so it's reputable tonewood.

The LTD Viper 10 also weighs comparatively little due to the Basswood body. Specs are otherwise very similar and it's a very customizable guitar at the price-point of £160
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 20, 2011, 02:51:53 PM: The guitar I started the thread about was sold within 10 minutes of me clicking "post". Is the guitar you have told me about good for rock and metal?
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 20, 2011, 02:54:58 PM: Sure is. Tell us your budget and I could suggest some others within it.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 20, 2011, 02:59:03 PM: Under £160 sadly : /
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 20, 2011, 03:00:03 PM: Well maybe a couple of quid leeway (probably spelt that SO wrong)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 20, 2011, 03:03:39 PM: Thomann has one for £149
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_viper_10_blk.htm (http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_viper_10_blk.htm)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 20, 2011, 03:07:43 PM: Found an exact price equivalent on ebay :D
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: nightcracker on June 20, 2011, 03:17:37 PM: So you prefer the exact same price from eBay over a new one from Thomann? Right...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Scorpion on June 20, 2011, 03:21:09 PM: ewwwwww, vipers....
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 20, 2011, 04:10:03 PM: Quote from: Scorpion on June 20, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
ewwwwww, vipers....
Just because the one you tried sucked; the lower price ones are apparently very good for the price point.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: NFX on June 20, 2011, 04:54:38 PM: On the subject of Ibanezeseseses, I bought a second-hand Ibanez Gio the other day, with a quite wide but shallow gash in the neck behind the 12th fret. It still plays well, and was 85 quid, was that good?
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: nightcracker on June 20, 2011, 08:50:25 PM: A few months ago I picked up a Ibanez Soundgear IJXB190 bass (not my picture:

(http://www.ibanezbass.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/-380002707561448260.jpg)

It was 85 euros, but it had some paint damage. Still love it :)

(yes, I play bass, and I play piano)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 21, 2011, 09:58:31 AM: Quote from: nightcracker on June 20, 2011, 03:17:37 PM
So you prefer the exact same price from eBay over a new one from Thomann? Right...

HAAAAR, you assume it's pre-owned
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 21, 2011, 10:16:30 AM: Thomann is still more reliable. and professional.
I own an Ibanez RG320PG. Decent guitar, but the Edge III it has is frankly awful.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 21, 2011, 01:24:08 PM: Edge 3?
Also i shall hopefully be ordering the guitar in an hour or two.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 21, 2011, 01:26:24 PM: Quote from: Lupus on June 21, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
Edge 3?
A double locking tremolo system like a Floyd Rose, but made of subpar materials and lacking tuning stability.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 21, 2011, 02:32:52 PM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-LTD-Viper-10-Electric-Guitar-Pack-/250836477416?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a6704e5e8 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-LTD-Viper-10-Electric-Guitar-Pack-/250836477416?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a6704e5e8)
or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-LTD-Viper-10-Electric-Guitar-Black-/330530776221?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4cf52b649d (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-LTD-Viper-10-Electric-Guitar-Black-/330530776221?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4cf52b649d)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 21, 2011, 03:01:11 PM: Need an answer now...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 21, 2011, 03:11:21 PM: If you want some a small amp and a strap, then the second one.
I would still buy from Thomann because it's much simpler than eBay.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 21, 2011, 03:12:35 PM: I have a pretty good amp but the second one is 50 quid cheaper...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 21, 2011, 03:25:01 PM: Go for it, you get some picks as a bonus.
Plus you can use the small one you get as a practice amp.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 21, 2011, 03:30:47 PM: DP:
If you haven't already bought the Viper yet, consider this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-GUITARS-LTD-MH-400NT-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-QUILT-TOP-/130533867685?_trksid=p4340.m8&_trkparms=algo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D6%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D810158097573230227 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-GUITARS-LTD-MH-400NT-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-QUILT-TOP-/130533867685?_trksid=p4340.m8&_trkparms=algo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D6%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D810158097573230227)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 22, 2011, 10:14:33 AM: with four days left AND 14 bidders it's a probably going to sky rocket in price
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 22, 2011, 10:16:06 AM: I will also pick-up some high gauge strings after i buy the viper...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 22, 2011, 01:59:50 PM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-RG09LTD-superb-condition-/250839414288?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a6731b610 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-RG09LTD-superb-condition-/250839414288?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a6731b610)
You seem to know stupidly lots about what is good and what isn't, is this good? if so i shall put off getting the viper and try and get this.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 22, 2011, 03:16:47 PM: I would stay away from anything with an edge III. Otherwise the guitars are so similar I would simply have the cheaper option, which is the Viper.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 26, 2011, 04:22:27 AM: That "LTD MH-400NT ELECTRIC GUITAR, QUILT TOP" sold for £285.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 26, 2011, 05:00:48 AM: Oh well.

So, I'd get the Viper now, just in case.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 26, 2011, 11:00:13 AM: Already bought it! But the guy sent it with snail-mail -_- .
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Enigm@ on June 26, 2011, 03:11:41 PM: Disregard Roadster, acquire Iceman.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on June 30, 2011, 03:33:03 AM: It arrived this morning :D. My first reaction was "WTF IT'S FLUTTERSHYING TINY". But then it grew on me.Will tell you opinions soon.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on June 30, 2011, 09:54:56 AM: MLP reference in response to getting guitar = WIN
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 01, 2011, 02:49:33 PM: The guitar is fluttershying awesome, it's everything i need at the moment.I thought it was small, but then i realised that's the size alot of metal guitars are, and that a bigger size would suck.Thanks madman SO much for your help. :D

(pretty sure gametechmods is strict on swearing from what i've seen >_> so ill just over use fluttershy from now on)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 01, 2011, 03:32:38 PM: No problem.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Somebody on July 01, 2011, 05:14:32 PM: They're just as strict on ponies too.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 01, 2011, 05:16:19 PM: Quote from: Somebody on July 01, 2011, 05:14:32 PM
They're just as strict on ponies too.
I think he'll live so long as he doesn't pull Jonzu's every-comment-involves-pony-pic act that he did a couple of weeks ago.
Or just pony spam in general.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 02, 2011, 04:36:29 PM: Hahahahahaha....ahahahaha..haha.ha.I already f*cking dented it.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 02, 2011, 04:38:11 PM: Good thing i bought a cheap one for my first.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 02, 2011, 04:45:41 PM: Don't worry, a guitar that cheap won't exactly sell anyway.

That is just a trait of Basswood, it tends to get dented relatively easily. Still a great tonewood, and it's better than the Agathis ones Scorp tried.

Just be careful with it, I've kept my Basswood AND second hand Ibanez RG320PG alive and basically undamaged for a little while.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 23, 2011, 05:53:00 AM: I just looked again via the link you posted and the"ESP GUITARS LTD MH-400NT ELECTRIC GUITAR, QUILT TOP" sold for £371 .
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 23, 2011, 06:06:52 AM: Quote from: Lupus on July 23, 2011, 05:53:00 AM
I just looked again via the link you posted and the"ESP GUITARS LTD MH-400NT ELECTRIC GUITAR, QUILT TOP" sold for £371 .
Quiet.

Anyway, if you need anymore advice like Pickups (considering the body wood I'd use Di Marzio Activator X's when you feel like changing pickups) or Strings, I'm your man, maybe Scorp too.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 23, 2011, 04:07:49 PM: Pfffft, i know too little (about guitars) to even consider getting new pickups, but strings...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 23, 2011, 04:15:58 PM: Well, Ernie Ball is most popular but Dunlop make extremely good strings that I'd consider the best readily available.
Dunlop 1.1 picks are also good if you do any sort Metallica style thrash picking.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: NFX on July 23, 2011, 04:25:41 PM: Quote from: madman3 on July 23, 2011, 04:15:58 PM
Dunlop 1.1 picks are also good if you do any sort Metallica style thrash picking.
That's a pretty useful piece of information, I'll see if I can find any when I'm back in a guitar shop. =)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 23, 2011, 04:27:45 PM: TBH I was takin the wise words of Jeff Waters there, but fine :D.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 24, 2011, 04:01:32 PM: Once these strings start dying I shall pick up some dunlops strings then,and a few new picks.Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 09:13:10 AM: What do you think is a good thrash metal song to start off with? and what to work my way up to.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 26, 2011, 09:33:10 AM: Try learning Bonded By Blood by Exodus. Not overly technical and its chorus is really catchy.
Agent Orange by Sodom is pretty easy too.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 26, 2011, 09:56:50 AM: Quote from: Larrain on July 26, 2011, 09:51:25 AM
Quote from: madman3 on July 23, 2011, 04:15:58 PM
Well, Ernie Ball is most popular but Dunlop make extremely good strings that I'd consider the best readily available.
I spotted a set of Dunlop strings two days ago at a store. I was amazed. I had been looking for those strings for a few months already.
Sadly my dad bought me a set of HRS strings two weeks ago. I disliked their tone at first, but they're ok now.
Bad luck.
Dunlop strings are great, they react well with active pickups and don't have as much buzz as EBs.

One thing, if you have a guitar with EMGs, Dean Markley blue steel's make the tone hilariously dirty.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 10:27:03 AM: I know mine are humbuckers, but any specific category?
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 26, 2011, 10:38:49 AM: Quote from: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 10:27:03 AM
I know mine are humbuckers, but any specific category?

Your pickups are plain old Passives. There's nothing wrong with them though.

BTW, if you really do ever feel like changing pickups, Di Marzio Activator X's or Seymour Duncan SH-6 Distortions will do you great; I'd recommend the latter particularly.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 03:26:38 PM: I also recommend the latter because they're cheaper...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 03:28:03 PM: DP:
I may get some later on though,as mine are preeeeeetty standard.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 26, 2011, 03:32:28 PM: SH-6s kick EMGs ass (both EMG actives and Passives) and pwn Seymour Duncan Blackouts too.

That means they're good.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 05:39:22 PM: In the first week most of the metal on the bridge of my ESP tarnished.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 26, 2011, 05:41:47 PM: Quote from: Lupus on July 26, 2011, 05:39:22 PM
In the first week most of the metal on the bridge of my ESP tarnished.
Meh, you can clean it if you want.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 28, 2011, 02:53:38 PM: I've learnt agent orange up till the sudden change in tempo, then my arm just dies...
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 28, 2011, 04:03:47 PM: Quote from: Lupus on July 28, 2011, 02:53:38 PM
I've learnt agent orange up till the sudden change in tempo, then my arm just dies...
Meh, practice tremolo picking enough and you'll get it eventually.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 30, 2011, 09:21:39 AM: My local shop does not stock dunlop strings sadly, so i got some ernie ball power slinkys.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on July 30, 2011, 09:34:34 AM: Quote from: Lupus on July 30, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
My local shop does not stock dunlop strings sadly, so i got some ernie ball power slinkys.
Ernie Ball strings are second best so that's not really a problem.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 30, 2011, 09:55:32 AM: Also thick picks are awesome, bought three (and accidentally a bass one :FFFUUU but it still works well, unlike those dreaded .50's)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 31, 2011, 02:57:17 PM: Just for future reference I'm going to try and post a tab.
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C|-0-0000-0000-0--------------------------------------------------|
. .... .... .
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on July 31, 2011, 02:57:37 PM: Well... that failed
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on August 07, 2011, 03:35:22 AM: My Stratocaster is in Drop A with its bottom string, while my top string is tuned to like Eb and two strings below both tuned exactly the same, creating this funky Middle Eastern Sound; sounds really full too, due to the bottom string being so low.

I keep my Ibanez RG320PG in Standard though, because I play mostly thrash and it means I don't have to play around with the bridge all the time.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: nightcracker on August 09, 2011, 11:29:51 AM: Quote from: Lupus on July 31, 2011, 02:57:17 PM
Just for future reference I'm going to try and post a tab.
D|---------------------------13h17p13-----------------------------|
A|-------------------------15--------15---------------------------|
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C|---------------------15----------------15~----------------------|
G|-0-0000-0000-0-----17-------------------------------------------|
C|-0-0000-0000-0--------------------------------------------------|
. .... .... .

Did you mean this?

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D|---------------------------13h17p13-----------------------------| A|-------------------------15--------15---------------------------| F|-----------------------14------------14-------------------------| C|---------------------15----------------15~----------------------| G|-0-0000-0000-0-----17-------------------------------------------| C|-0-0000-0000-0--------------------------------------------------| . .... .... .
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on August 09, 2011, 01:52:00 PM: Yes i did, It's the tab for Agape by For Today
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: nightcracker on August 09, 2011, 01:55:19 PM: Hint, use [code][/code] next time :)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: Lupus on August 09, 2011, 02:31:07 PM: Thanks. :bigsmile:
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: nightcracker on August 09, 2011, 03:01:42 PM: Pretty offtopic but I have to post it :D

Me + going to a wedding + acoustic bass

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263085_2245976751644_1314909340_2615344_6857336_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on August 09, 2011, 03:58:11 PM: Quote from: nightcracker on August 09, 2011, 03:01:42 PM
Pretty offtopic but I have to post it :D

Me + going to a wedding + acoustic bass

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263085_2245976751644_1314909340_2615344_6857336_n.jpg)
Is that you in the picture?

Either way, nice bass; always wondered how playing a bass is, and I'm going to try one at a music shop eventually.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: nightcracker on August 09, 2011, 03:59:14 PM: Yes that's me. I have two bass's, one acoustic (can be wired though) and one electric.
Title: Re: Ibanez
Post by: madman3 on August 09, 2011, 04:05:08 PM: Quote from: nightcracker on August 09, 2011, 03:59:14 PM
Yes that's me. I have two bass's, one acoustic (can be wired though) and one electric.
This gives me an idea for a project I've Pm'd Skiit about. Could be interesting if I have a bunch of people tracking on Samplitude and seeing the results.