I don't think I am evil anymore

[Natef]

You're not evil Nary, you just don't let your feelings get in the way of your reasoning.

Or that's the way I see it.

[Naryar]

When you are evil you don't really have to think about it.  You just feel warm and fuzzy inside when you do something other people find really mess up.

But I do... sometimes. Like trickster-ing people for laughs. And not feeling any regret afterwards.

Rationality is overrated anyway.

You claim this as an intellectual ? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY ?

I think every forum needs a Evil villain. Nary would be perfect for it.

I honestly think scorpion would be better in the role of a truly evil villain.

I can play the villain fine enough, but then also I would rather be a sagelike (no pun intended on sage) advisor rather than a villain.

You're not evil Nary, you just don't let your feelings get in the way of your reasoning.

Or that's the way I see it.

I try to at least. Alright, true neutral ! I got my lesson !

[123savethewhales]

Rationality is overrated anyway.

You claim this as an intellectual ? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY ?

I am not an intellectual.  I am just someone who is out of touch.

Rationality becomes overrated when it goes from a tool into a virtue.  It becomes socially dictated and rigid.  Rationality so over-hyped that hardly anyone care enough to look at it's limitations.  Then you end up with situations where 2 sides argue at each other about how "rational" they are without realizing that rationality does not == truth.

If you pay close attention to the thinking process, you will notice how many "assumptions" it take to believe in any given believe system.

[Naryar]

I see your point, indeed often rationality comes with irrational original assumptions, but then what is the tool most fitted for discerning truth, if it is not reason ?

[123savethewhales]

I see your point, but then what is the tool most fitted for discerning truth, if it is not reason ?

Observation.  While human observation is very selective and by no mean pure, it is as close as we can get.

The more the observation is processed, the more assumptions it needs.  How true the final result is will depend on how closely the assumptions match with the physical world.

Personally I stop associating my reasoning with truth entirely.  I just use it until it stops working.  Labeling a reasoning as "truth" offers no additional benefits and makes the thinking process rigid.

The most dangerous trap is "the more you think about something, the closer you are to the truth".  If reducing assumption is the goal then surely more reasoning is not the way.

[Naryar]

So you're a pragmatist and empirist ?

While your posture seems rational, the problem with observation is that it is influenced by our thoughts, often subconsciously and it leads to bigoted opinions.

[Jonzu95]

I nominate Scorpion, Naryar or Enigma to Forum Villain. =D

[Sparkey98]

Enigma and Scorp are too nice 

And your custom title is wrong, I am the forum DJ.............*sobs unconscionably*

[Naryar]

Enigma and Scorp are too nice 

HAHAHAHA WHAT

Enigma is prone to bouts of cruelty, that I generally consider above me.

I nominate Scorpion, Naryar or Enigma to Forum Villain. =D

The Terrible Trio ?

[Enigm@]

Enigma and Scorp are too nice 

HAHAHAHA WHAT

Enigma is prone to bouts of cruelty, that I generally consider above me.

I nominate Scorpion, Naryar or Enigma to Forum Villain. =D

The Terrible Trio ?

Yes...I can see it now...

[Jonzu95]

The Terrible trio are Scorpion, Enigma & Madman3.

[Scrap Daddy]

The Terrible trio are Scorpion, Enigma & Madman3.

lol@you

[Jonzu95]

Oh hai. ^^'

[Naryar]

The Terrible trio are Scorpion, Enigma & Madman3.

lol@you

Can we pair her with FOTEPX and Sparkey ?

[Scrap Daddy]

The Terrible trio are Scorpion, Enigma & Madman3.

lol@you

Can we pair her with FOTEPX and Sparkey ?

naah sparkey is just retarded, they are weird bastards.

[Enigm@]

The Terrible trio are Scorpion, Enigma & Madman3.

lol@you

Can we pair her with FOTEPX and Sparkey ?

naah sparkey is just retarded, they are weird bastards.

No, not true, borderline stupid IMO.

[Jonzu95]

I think me and FOTEPX could be great pair. =3

[123savethewhales]

So you're a pragmatist and empirist ?

While your posture seems rational, the problem with observation is that it is influenced by our thoughts, often subconsciously and it leads to bigoted opinions.

The problem is that rationality itself requires observations to work, as all the information you can possible have comes from your sensory systems.  Tainted or not, that's all you have.  The point is to reduce assumptions by observing something as directly and with as many method as possible.

The rational process cannot refute observation selectively.  As a very famous "brain in a vat" thought experiment shows.

Or take dreams versus waking.  Think about what kind of logic it takes to distinguish the dreaming experience from a waking experience, if that's even possible.  It just "feels" less real because our brain is hardwired to process dream experience that way.

You can of course believe that, out of assumptions, that your observation is less valuable when you are drunk, and more valuable when you are sober.

Therefore, Observation is a lower level process than rationality, and to ask rather using direct observation is rational or not is circular thinking.

[Enigm@]

I think me and FOTEPX could be great pair. =3

Confirmed: Jonzy is homosexual.

[Naryar]

I think me and FOTEPX could be great pair. =3

Confirmed: Jonzy is homosexual.

He said he was bi