gametechmods

Off-Topic => Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: madman3 on August 04, 2011, 04:21:52 AM

Title: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 04, 2011, 04:21:52 AM
Hey, thought I might start a topic for anyone looking for some suggestions for guitar parts for certain genres, as well as pedal and amp advice.
I'm pretty knowledgeable in terms of amps and guitar parts, and I know a bit about pedals, so fire away. If anyone has a disagreement feel free to discuss.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 04, 2011, 07:52:03 AM
What do you think of the Line 6 spider III amp 15w ?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 04, 2011, 08:26:54 AM
What do you think of the Line 6 spider III amp 15w ?
Not a great amp; Modelling amps tend to be fairly average in my experience and there are a couple of decent valve amps around its price point, like the Vox V20+ and 40+
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 04, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
I got it for about £30 quid off of ebay, worth it then?

Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 04, 2011, 10:48:15 AM
Go VOX. Versatile and easy to use from a beginner's standpoint. Investing in pedals at you're stage would be a waste.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 04, 2011, 11:53:07 AM
Go VOX. Versatile and easy to use from a beginner's standpoint. Investing in pedals at you're stage would be a waste.
This. Once you've got a fat ass budget you can go for a Marshall or Blackstar, or if you're really unfairly rich an ENGL.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 07, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
I don't plan on buying another amp, or at this stage any pedals
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 07, 2011, 11:35:32 AM
I don't plan on buying another amp, or at this stage any pedals
Welcome to the land of Derp tone, then.
Although I'd recommend replacing your amp as soon as you get an opportunity.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 08, 2011, 01:15:45 PM
Dude i got the amp for £30 quid, and it does what i want it to + no Vox amps for that price anywhere (the models you suggested that is)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 08, 2011, 01:21:46 PM
Also because one of my friends keeps talking about it, what do you think of the Slash signature wah pedal (I know, stay away from signature stuff)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 08, 2011, 02:38:55 PM
Also because one of my friends keeps talking about it, what do you think of the Slash signature wah pedal (I know, stay away from signature stuff)
Not an expert on wah pedals.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 09, 2011, 07:16:52 AM
It's a combination of wah and distortion or you can use it with just the distortion on its own or just the wah on its own.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 09, 2011, 07:35:00 AM
Doesn't sound very good, there's probably compromises, and the tone that Slash uses isn't ideal for proper hi-gain metal; plus it'll probably have tonnes of feedback due to a non-linear design.

The Amptweaker tight metal is a good hybrid pedal. It's a distortion/noise gate meaning your sounds are pretty controlled and it's good for the 80s thrash sounds. Plus it's got a steel casing which makes it virtually indestructible. Plus it's pretty high value (£149; not the cheapest but as said; it does have a noise gate as well, which gets rid of the feedback often found in a standalone pedal).

Might be worth considering once you get to the stage where you feel as though you need pedals.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 29, 2011, 03:36:12 PM
Sorry for the bump.
What settings do use to get a good Pantera tone? I've been learning Cowboys from Hell (making decent progress) and i would love a decent tone (at the moment im playing on the same settings i use for Deftones-My own summer)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 29, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Sorry for the bump.
What settings do use to get a good Pantera tone? I've been learning Cowboys from Hell (making decent progress) and i would love a decent tone (at the moment im playing on the same settings i use for Deftones-My own summer)
Set your bass control to 10, your treble control to 8, and your middle control to 2; should give you a dramatically scooped tone like Dime's.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 29, 2011, 04:16:45 PM
Sounds good, any effects?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 29, 2011, 04:20:38 PM
Sounds good, any effects?
I'm not entirely sure, but he used solid state amplifiers, so you're fine in that respect.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 30, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
You have a vast knowledge of guitar sound and tone.
What settings would you reccommend for these?
Agape- For Today (always sounds wrong when i play with the amp on)
Deftones - My Own Summer
Kansas- Carry on My Wayward son
Audioslave- Your time has come

(If i think of any others that don't sound right I'll ask)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
Is there a sizeable difference in quality between cheap picks and more expensive ones? I broke my only one and need to make the right buy for the replacement.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on September 04, 2011, 09:37:14 AM
I usually buy four at a time, they're cheap enough to not worry about quality. (50p each)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on September 04, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
Is there a sizeable difference in quality between cheap picks and more expensive ones? I broke my only one and need to make the right buy for the replacement.
Try Dunlop Tortex picks, most guitar stores have them and you can get many sizes. Generally I use 1mm picks.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on September 04, 2011, 01:42:40 PM
Know any decent cheap tuners that will reliably get my guitar in to drop tunings? My current one doesn't under stand the low 'e' being tuned to a 'c' and just decides to stop working when i try.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on September 04, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
Know any decent cheap tuners that will reliably get my guitar in to drop tunings? My current one doesn't under stand the low 'e' being tuned to a 'c' and just decides to stop working when i try.
Try the Snark Clip On Tuner. Apparently it's great and it costs only £16.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: kill343gs on September 04, 2011, 06:42:31 PM
Know any decent cheap tuners that will reliably get my guitar in to drop tunings? My current one doesn't under stand the low 'e' being tuned to a 'c' and just decides to stop working when i try.

If you have the same cheap Konig tuner that I have, you have to switch it over to "Bass" in order to downtune the low E.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on September 04, 2011, 06:46:14 PM
Know any decent cheap tuners that will reliably get my guitar in to drop tunings? My current one doesn't under stand the low 'e' being tuned to a 'c' and just decides to stop working when i try.

If you have the same cheap Konig tuner that I have, you have to switch it over to "Bass" in order to downtune the low E.
Never knew you played guitar or bass.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: kill343gs on September 04, 2011, 08:23:43 PM
just acoustic
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Enigm@ on September 04, 2011, 08:26:41 PM
just acoustic
Oh very nice. I actually have an acoustic sitting in my closet. *too lazy to play it*
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: kill343gs on September 04, 2011, 08:30:04 PM
My Ibanez Sage Series is amazing :P
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Enigm@ on September 04, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
My Ibanez Sage Series is amazing :P
you should put a beard on it. XD
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on September 12, 2011, 02:22:19 PM
Is there a sizeable difference in quality between cheap picks and more expensive ones? I broke my only one and need to make the right buy for the replacement.
Try Dunlop Tortex picks, most guitar stores have them and you can get many sizes. Generally I use 1mm picks.


This. Just reading the thread and thought I'd add how much I love these picks - the yellow .73mm ones serve me perfectly (Ironically, I bought a load and chose that as my favourite, then later that day discovered it's the same pick Matt Bellamy uses. Strange world.)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: G.K. on September 12, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
Yeah I am using the .73's too.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on September 12, 2011, 03:14:44 PM
I prefer the 1mm as it's less flexible so when you do tremolo picking it doesn't just flap about against the string.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on September 12, 2011, 03:16:26 PM
I like a bit of flexibility, I find it helps a little with tremolo picking, otherwise I end up not striking the note and just hitting the string XD
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 06, 2011, 01:28:03 PM
http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page11.php?area_id=3&data_id=287&color=CL01&year=2011&cat_id=1&series_id=494 (http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page11.php?area_id=3&data_id=287&color=CL01&year=2011&cat_id=1&series_id=494)
  This guitar is a sexy beast, but is it any good?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 06, 2011, 02:19:22 PM
It looks great but Ibanez active pickups suck, and the bolt on neck is disappointing considering the access the body provides. It would be much better in a high end version. The new Jackson X-Series warrior with EMGs is by far the best mid range guitar for the price.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 06, 2011, 02:29:50 PM
It looks great but Ibanez active pickups suck, and the bolt on neck is disappointing considering the access the body provides. It would be much better in a high end version. The new Jackson X-Series warrior with EMGs is by far the best mid range guitar for the price.
I really dislike the body shape of them, also i lean my guitar everywhere, that would destroy it.
What about this?
http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars-and-bass/Virgo/Virgo-Celtic-Tremolo/123 (http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars-and-bass/Virgo/Virgo-Celtic-Tremolo/123)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 06, 2011, 02:38:18 PM
It looks great but Ibanez active pickups suck, and the bolt on neck is disappointing considering the access the body provides. It would be much better in a high end version. The new Jackson X-Series warrior with EMGs is by far the best mid range guitar for the price.
I really dislike the body shape of them, also i lean my guitar everywhere, that would destroy it.
What about this?
http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars-and-bass/Virgo/Virgo-Celtic-Tremolo/123 (http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars-and-bass/Virgo/Virgo-Celtic-Tremolo/123)
Not so bad, but using a crappy Floyd Rose special rather than a proper Floyd isn't clever; if you want a Floyd, wait until you have enough cash.

In terms of playability, build quality, sound and awesome looks, this destroys everything in its price range;
http://www.samickguitar.com/products/view.php?lvl1=guitars&lvl2=jtr&idx=4 (http://www.samickguitar.com/products/view.php?lvl1=guitars&lvl2=jtr&idx=4)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 06, 2011, 02:39:21 PM
Wow, that's beautiful.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 06, 2011, 02:42:58 PM
It kicks ass, too. One of the best metal axes for the price, for the following reasons;
Slim Body
Good Pickups, and adaptable clean tone
24 fret neck
The best access set neck I've ever seen
It looks sexy

Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 06, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
I would like a guitar with a Floyd Rose Tremolo (but would have to change my style to play it, i rest my hand on the bridge), but i have no source of income except birthdays and christmas.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 06, 2011, 02:50:16 PM
I would like a guitar with a Floyd Rose Tremolo (but would have to change my style to play it, i rest my hand on the bridge), but i have no source of income except birthdays and christmas.
You'd better wait, I'm afraid. Most forms of the cheap forms of Floyd are pretty bad. Unless you can find, say, a BC Rich Ironbird Pro for a cheap price (generally it costs around £500), you're not going to find a decent one.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 08, 2011, 04:45:23 PM
I tried a Jackson flying V today,(think it was Randy Rhoads signature)with the same body design as the Jackson x, you can only play it standing up (which I rarely do) I also hate tremolo bridges as i have developed a distinct playing style that doesn't work with them so it's definitely not the guitar for me : /    .I did get to try a Schecter which was awesome,but i forgot the name, it had a cream trim all around it and it had the standard schecter looking body.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 08, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Lol you can sit down with any V. You just need to have it classical guitar style, with the lower spike going between your legs.

Trems are fine once your used to them.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 08, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
No place to rest your arm, which is what i like to do. (disregard anything that was once here,i'm probably too tired to be posting)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 13, 2011, 03:02:25 PM
In the first two weeks of having my guitar, i raised the bridge due to neck buzz (admittedly,way too high), i just lowered it to the perfect position (no buzz but pretty low) and no longer feel that i want a new guitar, it plays so much better now (surprisingly large difference just by lowering and raising the bridge)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 13, 2011, 03:28:34 PM
In the first two weeks of having my guitar, i raised the bridge due to neck buzz (admittedly,way too high), i just lowered it to the perfect position (no buzz but pretty low) and no longer feel that i want a new guitar, it plays so much better now (surprisingly large difference just by lowering and raising the bridge)
This is good. By spec, your guitar is pretty good for a beginner guitar. Only real improvement you can do it replace the pickups. I'd recommend Seymour Duncan JBs, Di-Marzio Super Distortions (not actually very high output but a great pickup) or Activator X (very metal oriented). Avoid EMG like the plague, as they are hard to install.

Also, remember to adjust your truss rod when your neck gets too bent.

If you need to progress in terms of gear I'd get a Blackstar HT-5. Great, fairly cheap, nice sound, reliable, versatile. Not great for live performances due to its low output wattage, but great at home for that very reason.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 14, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
In the first two weeks of having my guitar, i raised the bridge due to neck buzz (admittedly,way too high), i just lowered it to the perfect position (no buzz but pretty low) and no longer feel that i want a new guitar, it plays so much better now (surprisingly large difference just by lowering and raising the bridge)
This is good. By spec, your guitar is pretty good for a beginner guitar. Only real improvement you can do it replace the pickups. I'd recommend Seymour Duncan JBs, Di-Marzio Super Distortions (not actually very high output but a great pickup) or Activator X (very metal oriented). Avoid EMG like the plague, as they are hard to install.

Also, remember to adjust your truss rod when your neck gets too bent.

If you need to progress in terms of gear I'd get a Blackstar HT-5. Great, fairly cheap, nice sound, reliable, versatile. Not great for live performances due to its low output wattage, but great at home for that very reason.
It costs more than my guitar...
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 14, 2011, 11:51:24 AM
In the first two weeks of having my guitar, i raised the bridge due to neck buzz (admittedly,way too high), i just lowered it to the perfect position (no buzz but pretty low) and no longer feel that i want a new guitar, it plays so much better now (surprisingly large difference just by lowering and raising the bridge)
This is good. By spec, your guitar is pretty good for a beginner guitar. Only real improvement you can do it replace the pickups. I'd recommend Seymour Duncan JBs, Di-Marzio Super Distortions (not actually very high output but a great pickup) or Activator X (very metal oriented). Avoid EMG like the plague, as they are hard to install.

Also, remember to adjust your truss rod when your neck gets too bent.

If you need to progress in terms of gear I'd get a Blackstar HT-5. Great, fairly cheap, nice sound, reliable, versatile. Not great for live performances due to its low output wattage, but great at home for that very reason.
It costs more than my guitar...
Fairly cheap for a valve amp. As I have said previously in this topic, save up and invest.

The best quality valve amps can cost from anywhere between £800 and £2300 pounds. That's a heck of a lot.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 14, 2011, 02:26:56 PM
Also how do I know if my neck is too bent? (guessing it's a noob question.)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 14, 2011, 03:47:30 PM
Also how do I know if my neck is too bent? (guessing it's a noob question.)
Generally just looking down the neck to see what angle it is in comparison to the body, or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3h4NOsMk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3h4NOsMk#)
Use the method covered in the later half of this vid.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 14, 2011, 04:59:35 PM
Guessing via doing the technique in the video my guitars arc is fine.But i have found two badly levelled frets on the d string "13,14".
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 15, 2011, 03:49:01 AM
Guessing via doing the technique in the video my guitars arc is fine.But i have found two badly levelled frets on the d string "13,14".
Either get a fret sanding block (Stew Mac sells them from abroad) or use tape on the frets on question.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 16, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
These strings are "ded", going to order dunlop ones off of amazon now. I found Zakk Wylde signature strings for a pound a set by Dunlop, will get 3 of them and a set of dunlop "heaviest"
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 16, 2011, 01:10:34 PM
Do you recommend any distortion pedals that can do a wide variety of sounds? (if that exists, like fuzzy distortion, standard etc)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 16, 2011, 01:13:09 PM
Oh wait, you already posted one, still recommend it?

3 posts of pure doom.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on October 16, 2011, 04:45:55 PM
I don't really know all too much but I use Super Slinky strings on one of my guitars and Not Even Slinky's on the other, they seem to work real well.

Another question, I'm getting a new amp soon, and it can't be too expensive, so I want something that can do a fair bit but also looks nifty.
Is the Orange PiX Crush 20LDX a good bet? It even has a few built in effects, etc
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 16, 2011, 04:54:06 PM
I don't really know all too much but I use Super Slinky strings on one of my guitars and Not Even Slinky's on the other, they seem to work real well.

Another question, I'm getting a new amp soon, and it can't be too expensive, so I want something that can do a fair bit but also looks nifty.
Is the Orange PiX Crush 20LDX a good bet? It even has a few built in effects, etc
Can you be specific of what your maximum price is and what purpose you're trying to fill with the amp? Certain amps are better at certain styles and volumes.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 16, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
Oh wait, you already posted one, still recommend it?

3 posts of pure doom.
It's great for a thrash sound.
Really, you can't get a pedal with great variety of tone, other than maybe the Blackstar Gus. G Signature model, which has a nice variety of high gain sounds.

For more sort of Stoner and sludgy styles go steal a bass amp from a friend. That's how Kyuss did it.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on October 16, 2011, 05:01:06 PM
Can you be specific of what your maximum price is and what purpose you're trying to fill with the amp? Certain amps are better at certain styles and volumes.


Maximum price is like £120, and I play a lot of alt (Muse, Biffy Clyro etc), a little metal (Metallica, Megadeth) and also a fair bit/a lot of pop-punk (Green Day etc - yes faggy I know). Mainly for home playing but for possible future very small gigs. Wanted something with a few built in effects too (oh Muse, why so many effects? D:)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 16, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

I'd say Vox VT20+. Nice little tube amp with variable output, good tone, and some built in effects. Not too heavy, not too light, should work fine.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 17, 2011, 10:16:39 AM
Please could i have a link to a website that stocks these pedals? My google has turned up zero results.
Feel like such a noob...
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 17, 2011, 10:17:50 AM
Oh wait, you already posted one, still recommend it?

3 posts of pure doom.
It's great for a thrash sound.
Really, you can't get a pedal with great variety of tone, other than maybe the Blackstar Gus. G Signature model, which has a nice variety of high gain sounds.

For more sort of Stoner and sludgy styles go steal a bass amp from a friend. That's how Kyuss did it.
They only ever sold 1000 of them, in the whole world.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 17, 2011, 10:35:04 AM
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=&q=blackstar+gus+g+pedal&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB271GB309&ie=UTF-8&aq=5&oq=Blackstar+gu#ds=pr&pq=blackstar+gus+g+pedal&hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=12&gs_id=7&xhr=t&q=blackstar+blackfire&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB271GB309&tbm=shop&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=blackstar+bl&aq=0&aqi=g1&aql=f&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=1d6724b9819e668e&biw=1440&bih=681 (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=&q=blackstar+gus+g+pedal&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB271GB309&ie=UTF-8&aq=5&oq=Blackstar+gu#ds=pr&pq=blackstar+gus+g+pedal&hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=12&gs_id=7&xhr=t&q=blackstar+blackfire&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB271GB309&tbm=shop&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=blackstar+bl&aq=0&aqi=g1&aql=f&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=1d6724b9819e668e&biw=1440&bih=681)
There. Eat dat.

As for the amptweaker, I can't find it.

If you have a lot of cash to spend and want a brilliant distortion pedal:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/seymour_duncan_sfx04_twin_tube_mayhem.htm (http://www.thomann.de/gb/seymour_duncan_sfx04_twin_tube_mayhem.htm)
That's the absolute best pedal on the market.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 18, 2011, 10:12:30 AM
Do you know any good ones around or under £150?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 18, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
Do you know any good ones around or under £150?
The Boss Metal Zone is pretty good. The advantages of the two I suggested is that they are tube pedals which generally sound nicer.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 19, 2011, 11:02:01 AM
I love the tone of the Gus G one, but reading reviews, they don't actually seem to have it in stock, the websites take your money, then inform you that they don't have the item a week later...
I'm not allowed a new guitar but i would be allowed an expensive pedal(around £200) as a christmas or birthday present.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 19, 2011, 11:44:22 AM
If your willing to Sacrifice some presents you may be able to get this:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_333212.htm (http://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_333212.htm)
Which pwns and is a great metal amp for the price.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 19, 2011, 11:49:15 AM
When I asked if I could get a new guitar for christmas, i was told "you already have a guitar, you don't need another one for now" and i'm guessing the same thing will happen if I ask for an amp.
Also,my amps tone is extremely fake, my dads strat copy sounds the exact same as my ESP through the distortion setting, or maybe that's just how it's supposed to be...
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 19, 2011, 11:59:36 AM
Nah, Line 6's suck. Unlike your guitar they aren't customizable and are infamously rubbish. Ask politely and calmly explain and hope your convincing voice works.

Also, a great amp is far more key to your sound than a great guitar. I could play a Crafter Cruiser through an ENGL Fireball and it would sound awesome.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 19, 2011, 12:26:49 PM
Also how do I know if my neck is too bent? (guessing it's a noob question.)
Generally just looking down the neck to see what angle it is in comparison to the body, or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3h4NOsMk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3h4NOsMk#)
Use the method covered in the later half of this vid.
My truss rod doesn't have a "slot" for an alan key or screwdriver.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 19, 2011, 12:27:53 PM
Nah, Line 6's suck. Unlike your guitar they aren't customizable and are infamously rubbish. Ask politely and calmly explain and hope your convincing voice works.

Also, a great amp is far more key to your sound than a great guitar. I could play a Crafter Cruiser through an ENGL Fireball and it would sound awesome.
Would the amp really matter if i had a distortion pedal through the clean setting?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 19, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
Yes. Just running a pedal through your Line 6 would sound bad, as the clipping and dynamics would be different to your amp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8f9dzlmfM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8f9dzlmfM#)
This has a good tone despite the utter lack of bass guitar. Compare it to a decent quality distortion pedal and this will destroy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFOo95qUM6w#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFOo95qUM6w#ws)
This is a higher end model that I really like, but the 333 is still a great amp for the price.

Also how do I know if my neck is too bent? (guessing it's a noob question.)
Generally just looking down the neck to see what angle it is in comparison to the body, or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3h4NOsMk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3h4NOsMk#)
Use the method covered in the later half of this vid.
My truss rod doesn't have a "slot" for an alan key or screwdriver.
Usually there's some sort of cover you have to remove.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 20, 2011, 11:17:00 AM
These Zakk Wylde strings sound exremely metallic with out the amp on, great with the amp on though.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 23, 2011, 10:17:21 AM
Zakk Wylde strings suck dick. High e has ALREADY snapped  :realmad( .
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 23, 2011, 12:53:19 PM
Zakk sucks anyway. Go get some proper strings rather than signature strings.

Worth noting, today I held Steve Vai's first ever signature 6 string; the one he used for 15 odd years, the one he himself owned.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 23, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
Zakk sucks anyway. Go get some proper strings rather than signature strings.

Worth noting, today I held Steve Vai's first ever signature 6 string; the one he used for 15 odd years, the one he himself owned.
Nice.
The Zakk Wylde are just dunlops with his name on it though.Sweet pinch harmonics are probably the only notable good thing about them...
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 23, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Think i should just re-string the whole thing? Waste of my ducking money...

Also, did you get to play the guitar?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 23, 2011, 02:26:19 PM
Think i should just re-string the whole thing? Waste of my ducking money...

Also, did you get to play the guitar?
Played it acoustically for about 30 seconds. Was out of tune, considered re-tuning it :P

Go get some proper dunlop strings.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 23, 2011, 04:52:56 PM
Think i should just re-string the whole thing? Waste of my ducking money...

Also, did you get to play the guitar?
Played it acoustically for about 30 seconds. Was out of tune, considered re-tuning it :P

Go get some proper dunlop strings.
You should have.

Also i have a pack of dunlop "heaviest" next to me atm.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 23, 2011, 04:54:34 PM
Getting the heaviest gauge strings doesn't make you clever. It makes it very hard to play fast on the upper frets unless you downtune to C.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Enigm@ on October 23, 2011, 05:04:11 PM
I just use ernie ball superslinkys.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on October 23, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
Getting the heaviest gauge strings doesn't make you clever. It makes it very hard to play fast on the upper frets unless you downtune to C.
Well atm im playing everything in c, so thats alright I guess.
I'm just testing out different sizes to see which is the best for me, other peoples opinions are their opinions,not mine.(like my friend who thinks Donnie Darko is an amazing film,but I think it's crap)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 23, 2011, 05:15:57 PM
I just use ernie ball superslinkys.
Good for shredding.

Considered getting extra slinkies for my Ibanez for extra shredding ability.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Scorpion on October 23, 2011, 06:37:42 PM
I don't go as thin as super slinkys personally.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 24, 2011, 03:21:54 AM
I don't go as thin as super slinkys personally.
That's because you play in like D half the time since DT decided to downtune on their newer albums.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Scorpion on October 24, 2011, 04:41:52 AM
I don't go as thin as super slinkys personally.
That's because you play in like D half the time since DT decided to downtune on their newer albums.
Exactlement, well, first part at least.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on October 24, 2011, 05:11:40 AM
I don't go as thin as super slinkys personally.
That's because you play in like D half the time since DT decided to downtune on their newer albums.
Exactlement, well, first part at least.
Oh well.

Anyway, my current tuning setup, per string;
D G C E G (again) A

FEEL CONFUSED

But yeah, I dropped the bottom two strings so I would get a nice double powerchord effect with the string above and below, as well as fiddling around with the upper tunings so I can get my Ron Jarzombek-style dissonance.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on November 04, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
I'm thinking about getting new pick-ups for my birthday, and the distortion pedal for Christmas, or the other way round. Good idea? (No I can't get a new amp, my mum gave a stern no)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 04, 2011, 12:38:40 PM
Not a bad idea.

Di Marzio D-Activator Xs kick ass, so I'd recommend them. Boss Metal Zone Distortion is a great distortion pedal, but even better for thrash tones is the Blackstar HT Dist X. Brilliant pedal.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on November 04, 2011, 12:46:55 PM
Not a bad idea.

Di Marzio D-Activator Xs kick ass, so I'd recommend them. Boss Metal Zone Distortion is a great distortion pedal, but even better for thrash tones is the Blackstar HT Dist X. Brilliant pedal.
I looked them up, they sound good but I only have a 3-way selector and the D-activators have two combinations for each pickup (five in total).I'll only get a bridge one as I never use the neck pickup.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 04, 2011, 12:55:10 PM
Not a bad idea.

Di Marzio D-Activator Xs kick ass, so I'd recommend them. Boss Metal Zone Distortion is a great distortion pedal, but even better for thrash tones is the Blackstar HT Dist X. Brilliant pedal.
I looked them up, they sound good but I only have a 3-way selector and the D-activators have two combinations for each pickup (five in total).I'll only get a bridge one as I never use the neck pickup.
That's fine.
One thing with high output pickups is that you may want to replace the volume controls depending on how high their tolerance level is.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on November 04, 2011, 12:59:11 PM
Tolerance?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 04, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
Tolerance?
How much output they can take.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 04, 2011, 01:32:16 PM
In my case I rather like my guitar (boring old Ibanez RG to most of us) but would rather like a very nice pickup like the Bareknuckle Aftermath.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 05, 2011, 04:34:58 AM
Never heard of that pickup. I'm going to google it tomorrow :P

Seeing how I've been slowly growing unhappy of my amp's tone possibilities, and how I'm constantly fiddling with the contour knob without finding a good balance (everything else is pretty much perfect IMO), I'm probably going to get a new amp after I get the guitar. But I can't seem to find a decent tone with any of the amps I've tried out at stores.

I've watched lots of videos and right now I'm kind of leaning towards the Lee Jackson GP-1000 preamp, which I think was discontinued (coincidently it's the very same preamp my fav player used until about 7 years ago), so am I just looking forward something near-impossible? xD

I don't know anything about poweramps though.
A Mesa Boogie Mark V with an overdrive pedal like a tube screamer rips, but that costs a lot.
Other good amps are the Koch Supernova, Laney Ironheart (a lot more affordable than the other amps), ENGL Fireball (honestly an awesome amp).
Good cheaper amps are the Blackstar HT-5 and the ENGL Gigmaster 30
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2011, 04:01:41 PM
Hello again! Afraid I need more advice ;D
My dad has ordered me the Vox VT40+ for Christmas, however my mum has suggested buying me a new guitar - so, what would people recommend for me around the £200-250 mark?
(To confirm, I play alt rock/metal/punk/pop-punk, and am fed up of the Strat/SG/Les Paul shape (apart from an Epiphone black Les Paul I saw... very nice.) but quite like Telecasters/Jaguars/Explorers. You know, something different.)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 05, 2011, 04:13:18 PM
Hello again! Afraid I need more advice ;D
My dad has ordered me the Vox VT40+ for Christmas, however my mum has suggested buying me a new guitar - so, what would people recommend for me around the £200-250 mark?
(To confirm, I play alt rock/metal/punk/pop-punk, and am fed up of the Strat/SG/Les Paul shape (apart from an Epiphone black Les Paul I saw... very nice.) but quite like Telecasters/Jaguars/Explorers. You know, something different.)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
To be honest, I'd ask her to save up. There aren't too many good guitars in odd shapes around that price range. If I were you, I'd wait until I had something a little more sizable in the way of cash, then spend it on a great guitar, rather than one I wouldn't be satisfied with.

Wait until next year, there are some great guitars in the £400-500 price range that I'd wait for, like the quite versatile Epiphone Jeff Waters V that can do blues to metal.

If you want a good guitar now for a lower price point like the one you mentioned, try something from JTR guitars; lots of nice tele and Rhoads shapes.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
So you wouldn't recommend a Squier or Epiphone within that price range?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 05, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
So you wouldn't recommend a Squier or Epiphone within that price range?
Nah, really there is no point in getting a beginner guitar then getting a guitar that is only slightly better; you are better off either waiting till you can get a higher range Epiphone explorer or V or replacing bits on your current guitar.
Di Marzio Super Distortion humbuckers give a nice old school hard rock bark; Kurt Cobain's signature Fender wields them, so that's the sort of sound to expect. Even if you have singlecoils it comes in a variety of formats for telecasters and strats. I'd recommend those for your sounds.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2011, 05:02:11 PM
Hm, well this is what I play at the moment - http://www.guvnor.com/Items/Item_Details.aspx?ItemId=47&CatId=2&SeriesId=7 (http://www.guvnor.com/Items/Item_Details.aspx?ItemId=47&CatId=2&SeriesId=7)

I'm not necessarily looking for something amazing, it's hardly as if I need it being a guy who just likes playing guitar (I mean I was blown away when I played a 5-stringed Epi SG through a 1999 Line 6 Spider the other day, that's how bad my kit is). I was just wondering if their actually any good (worth the £200, even if it's only a little step up from beginner) or if you're literally just paying for the brand. If you know what I mean :')
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on November 05, 2011, 05:40:57 PM
Epiphones are actually pretty reasonably priced. Found a set necked, ebony fingerboard Goth SG for just over £200.
Squier sucks for lower range guitars. Further up you get their better Jazzmasters and stuff.
Anyway, this is a pretty cool and versatile Les Paul that you may want to check out:
http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Goth-Les-Paul-Studio.aspx (http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Goth-Les-Paul-Studio.aspx)
Oh, and this rules too, has a brilliant neck.
http://www.samickguitar.com/products/view.php?lvl1=guitars&lvl2=jtr&idx=133 (http://www.samickguitar.com/products/view.php?lvl1=guitars&lvl2=jtr&idx=133)
Can't see much wrong with your guitar, unless it's made of plywood or something:P
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2011, 05:47:05 PM
Anyway, this is a pretty cool and versatile Les Paul that you may want to check out:
http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Goth-Les-Paul-Studio.aspx (http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Goth-Les-Paul-Studio.aspx)


Can't see much wrong with your guitar, unless it's made of plywood or something:P


Wow. A Les Paul I really like... o.o


And yeah, it's alright. Got it for £100 at Easter, and it's served me well (':
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on November 07, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
Lol you can sit down with any V. You just need to have it classical guitar style, with the lower spike going between your legs.

Trems are fine once your used to them.
I went back to the guitar shop last week, and the flying v had the audio jack on the inner v , extremely dumb design.
I also found an epic guitar shop that sells much more up-market guitars not that far from me, saw the blackstar pedal their, gonna have to try it :D
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on November 10, 2011, 02:03:35 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/295051Untitled.png)
The audio jack was where the arrow is pointing.

Yeah I did do this in paint, problem?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: cephalopod on December 08, 2011, 02:59:36 PM
Anyway, this is a pretty cool and versatile Les Paul that you may want to check out:
http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Goth-Les-Paul-Studio.aspx (http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Goth-Les-Paul-Studio.aspx)


Thank you. :)

Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 08, 2011, 03:38:48 PM
Good choice dude. How's it handling?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: smashysmashy on December 08, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
Craaig. You play that guitar LIKE A BOSS.

I just hope it doesnt keep you away from GTM D:
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 08, 2011, 05:06:48 PM
Craaig. You play that guitar LIKE A BOSS.

I just hope it doesnt keep you away from GTM D:
He's been playing another guitar for a while so I can't see him being away any longer because of it.

And I'm totally more boss  :yaya)/endpossiblesarcasm
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on December 12, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
I was given a blackstar dist-x for my birthday, it's epic.
Any reccommended settings for thrash?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 12, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
I was given a blackstar dist-x for my birthday, it's epic.
Any reccommended settings for thrash?
Treble/High-10
Middle-4
Bass-8
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on December 12, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
Is that for the pedal or for the amp?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 12, 2011, 02:50:03 PM
Is that for the pedal or for the amp?
Pedal.
You might want to move the ISF clockwise for a more Marshall-like sound, which is what most thrash albums had at the time.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on December 14, 2011, 02:29:21 PM
Why does my tapping sound so bad through any amplifier?
Is their a technique that i'm just not doing properly?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 14, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Treble/High-10
Middle-4
Bass-8
Smiley EQ's everywhere...
Am I the only one who sets his Mids to 10?
I do that occasionally, especially with lower tunings.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 15, 2011, 09:49:29 AM
I play in a bunch of tunings from Eb to drop G# (drop bottom string to G#, drop 5th string to the same note an octave above). I general keep my settings like this;
Treble-10
Mids-4,5,6
Bass-7
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on December 15, 2011, 09:56:30 AM
Why does my tapping sound so bad through any amplifier?
Is their a technique that i'm just not doing properly?
I think so. If your tapping motion is correct you probably need to improve muting - my left hand fingers naturally mute the higher strings due to the way I fret notes, the problem for me is muting the lower strings with the right hand. I pretty much try to palm mute in an opposite right wrist angle for this :P Same with sweep picking, which I don't feel motivated to develop anymore for some reason...

I wasn't pressing hard enough.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 22, 2011, 12:42:18 PM
I'm not sure if this should go here, but I guess it should.

I don't really know why, but I've been practicing 3-string sweep picking lately. I can't seem to perform it cleanly no matter how much I focus nor how slowly I begin each "session".
A few minutes ago I noticed my muting technique is correct for the higher strings, and instead, the noise's coming from the lower strings scratching against my hand (the palm muting side), which is also why I only seem to hear that over around 150bpm... What am I supposed to do here? (aside from giving up, of course).
Don't ask me, I suck at sweeping!
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on December 22, 2011, 01:03:27 PM
I'm not sure if this should go here, but I guess it should.

I don't really know why, but I've been practicing 3-string sweep picking lately. I can't seem to perform it cleanly no matter how much I focus nor how slowly I begin each "session".
A few minutes ago I noticed my muting technique is correct for the higher strings, and instead, the noise's coming from the lower strings scratching against my hand (the palm muting side), which is also why I only seem to hear that over around 150bpm... What am I supposed to do here? (aside from giving up, of course).
When you go faster things get sloppy (as always with guitar playing) build up slowly, and try a metronome
start a downstroke on every "click" , doing this constantly will improve your technique and get rid of sloppyness.
You don't really need to dampen the low strings because they don't ring out (on mine anyway).
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 22, 2011, 03:51:23 PM
Seriously, I have the most imprecise lead technique ever, save for maybe tapping which I still suck donkey balls at because all I do is basic chromatic moves. I stick very strictly to Rhythm because I'm quite good at it.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on December 22, 2011, 04:03:36 PM
Seriously, I have the most imprecise lead technique ever, save for maybe tapping which I still suck donkey balls at because all I do is basic chromatic moves. I stick very strictly to Rhythm because I'm quite good at it.
What do you mean by imprecise?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on December 22, 2011, 04:08:37 PM
Seriously, I have the most imprecise lead technique ever, save for maybe tapping which I still suck donkey balls at because all I do is basic chromatic moves. I stick very strictly to Rhythm because I'm quite good at it.
What do you mean by imprecise?
Just an inaccurate left hand. I'm dyspraxic so my hand eye co-ordination is pretty piss poor.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on January 07, 2012, 11:04:46 AM
I was given a set of standard size guitar strings for christmas, so i just restringed with them, and oh my god they're so loose in standard...
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on January 10, 2012, 12:32:29 PM
What settings would you reccomend for "Bark at the Moon" by Ozzy Osbourne?
I would normally use the thrash metal tone, but pinch harmonics are dull with that.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on January 10, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
Add mids, make them 7 or something.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on January 12, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
Do they make a floating bridge version of the Elvira?
That would be amazing.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on January 12, 2012, 02:48:15 PM
Do they make a floating bridge version of the Elvira?
That would be amazing.
Only a hard tail.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on January 15, 2012, 06:16:39 AM
I was given a set of standard size guitar strings for christmas, so i just restringed with them, and oh my god they're so loose in standard...
What would standard be? Right now I have 9-42's, although the first string is missing. I was thinking of getting some 9-46's tomorrow, hopefully round cores... Oh, has anyone tried them?
Those came on my guitar and are the ones I was given for christmas.It won't feel that different if you're going from 9-42's to 9-46's ,the reason I said "standard size" is because they're called regular slinkys (if you get Ernie Balls).
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on February 14, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Would using my current pedal as a preamp so i can run a different type of distortion pedal through it to refine the sound work? (No idea what i'm talking about,basically the blackstar lacks the amount of gain i want sometimes so i'm wondering if i could use another distortion pedal but still use the blackstar at the same time because the blackstar was expensive and i can't really take it back now...wooh gibberish)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on February 14, 2012, 04:03:43 PM
Would using my current pedal as a preamp so i can run a different type of distortion pedal through it to refine the sound work? (No idea what i'm talking about,basically the blackstar lacks the amount of gain i want sometimes so i'm wondering if i could use another distortion pedal but still use the blackstar at the same time because the blackstar was expensive and i can't really take it back now...wooh gibberish)
Grab yourself a Digitech Bad Monkey (cheap but good overdrive pedal) and try, I see no places to go wrong. You may also want to grab a noise gate (a simple Boss noise suppressor should do).
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on February 14, 2012, 04:07:53 PM
Would using my current pedal as a preamp so i can run a different type of distortion pedal through it to refine the sound work? (No idea what i'm talking about,basically the blackstar lacks the amount of gain i want sometimes so i'm wondering if i could use another distortion pedal but still use the blackstar at the same time because the blackstar was expensive and i can't really take it back now...wooh gibberish)
Grab yourself a Digitech Bad Monkey (cheap but good overdrive pedal) and try, I see no places to go wrong. You may also want to grab a noise gate (a simple Boss noise suppressor should do).
Awesome,i can get some sweet tones out of the pedal (amazing for Iron Maiden stuff*The Trooper*) but i just can't touch things like pantera and some low-tuned metals.Will test out those pedals as soon as i can.It definitley needs a noise gate though because aah mah gah da feedback my "humbuckers" churn out (my worst enemy is light fittings.)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on February 17, 2012, 06:25:06 AM
What about instead of an overdrive pedal, another distortion pedal, would that work?
I'm going to test out some overdrives on saturday with my Blackstar pedal.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on February 17, 2012, 10:28:49 AM
What about instead of an overdrive pedal, another distortion pedal, would that work?
I'm going to test out some overdrives on saturday with my Blackstar pedal.
Distortion pedals sounds less tight than overdrives when stacked over an already present distortion from the amp or a pedal.
Ibanez Tube Screamers, Maxon OD808s, and Digitech Bad Monkeys are pretty much the staple choices.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on February 18, 2012, 05:17:58 AM
It won't feel that different if you're going from 9-42's to 9-46's
It did. Last string set felt loose, the current one feels just right. Just counting the bottom strings.
Oh, and I ultimately decided for a 10-46 set while at the store, so any kind of bends and vibrato felt really horrible at first, but now I can almost tackle bends as wide as I could with 9's. I don't know now whether I should go 11's and then back to 10's or just go straight back to 9's.
I know what you mean, thicker gauges do feel much "tighter" but they are easier to bend in low tunings compared to standard.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on February 18, 2012, 01:14:58 PM
I actually play drop C with plain 9s; I've got so used to it that it's no longer an issue, plus legato is easy as all heck.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on February 18, 2012, 01:39:52 PM
Yeah I used to play in Drop C with 8's, the same set that was in the guitar when dad bought it xD and it was just ok, but now I seem to prefer thicker bottom strings.
And I think you're pushing me towards 9-46's again.

Also I only just noticed Lupus' signature has Amaterasu on it.
yeah Okami was pretty cool, had some control issues but was decent enough.
I've not tried 8s, but I might use them on my Ibanez once I've finished building my King V.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on May 08, 2012, 12:20:10 PM
Do you still recommend the DiMarzio D-activator-x pickups? Have you found an even better one?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on May 08, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
Do you still recommend the DiMarzio D-activator-x pickups? Have you found an even better one?
Seymour Duncan SH-6s, Bare Knuckle Aftermaths or Bare Knuckle Black Hawks.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 04, 2012, 01:47:10 PM
I really want to find some place in England to try out that Elvira, or a Halberd.
But im struggling to find a place that has either. Anyone really lucky and has a seller nearby?
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 05, 2012, 05:22:20 AM
I really want to find some place in England to try out that Elvira, or a Halberd.
But im struggling to find a place that has either. Anyone really lucky and has a seller nearby?
I'm not sure if they're in any shops, but I know they're available online.

Tbh, while the Halberd has the most awesome shape ever (mmmm ice cream) it's got meh spec. The Elvira is good for its price.
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: Lupus on August 05, 2012, 08:50:24 AM
I've seen pictures of a white Elvira and it's haaaaawt. But I can't find an online seller for the white one. (If I do it will probably be my next guitar)
Title: Re: Guitar tone, component, and pedal advice.
Post by: madman3 on August 05, 2012, 09:37:12 AM
I've seen pictures of a white Elvira and it's haaaaawt. But I can't find an online seller for the white one. (If I do it will probably be my next guitar)
Not sure about the white one, but the black one is totally Sabbath-y.