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Off-Topic => Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 04:42:27 PM

Title: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 04:42:27 PM
This thread is made to protest the tyranny that naryar has thrown over the people of gametechmods.
It will state the crimes he has put against us citizens, full VIOLATING our rights as represented in the GTM Constitution.
Naryar has done the following things, all of which should be not allowed as a moderator, and should have him impeached:
-FOR REMOVING THE PONY THREAD, AND SPAMMING "EYEBROWS" BEFOREHAND
-FOR NOT WARNING OR BANNING USERS THAT SHOULD
-FOR HARSH WARNINGS AGAINST MEMBERS
ALL of the allegations mentioned above should have him removed as moderator.
'TIS TIME TO PART LADS !

FELLOW PATRIOTS:
NFX
Smashsmashy
MegaNerdBomb
Scorpion
Madman3
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 04:43:35 PM
I second this
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on November 01, 2011, 04:45:55 PM
I stand as a neutral. Anyone who comes over here gets a free box of popcorn
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 04:46:24 PM
Also - i think it should be said to NOT blatantly flame naryar. This is a protest, but we are protesting peacefully.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Somebody on November 01, 2011, 04:47:09 PM
I personally am pro-Naryar, but when you posted CZAR NARY in the chatbox, it sounded terrible.

Czaryar

That is all.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 04:47:37 PM
Also - i think it should be said to NOT blatantly flame naryar. This is a protest, but we are protesting peacefully.
QFT
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 04:49:15 PM
I personally am pro-Naryar, but when you posted CZAR NARY in the chatbox, it sounded terrible.

Czaryar

That is all.
pff, loyalist.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: J on November 01, 2011, 04:49:30 PM
This will inevitably turn into another #OccupyGametechmods-attempt, thread.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Natef on November 01, 2011, 04:50:10 PM
I'm ready to post "21 Guns" when you realize you're screwed.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 01, 2011, 04:51:37 PM
Although Baron Naryar the Intolerable V wants nothing less than to justify, palliate, or excuse the evils of his heart, I want this letter to speak a language of reconciliation, not retaliation. There are a number of reasons he isn't telling us as to why he wants to make my worst nightmares come true. In this letter, I will expose those reasons one-by-one, on the principle that if I didn't sincerely believe that he consistently falls short of telling the whole story or of making a solid point, then I wouldn't be writing this letter. He is known for publishing what is easily identifiable as opinion under the guise of fact. That's just a fancy way of saying that the concepts underlying Naryar's juvenile teachings are like the Ptolemaic astronomy, which could not have been saved by positing more epicycles or eliminating some of the more glaring discrepancies. The fundamental idea—that the heavens revolve around the Earth—was wrong, just as Naryar's idea that he's an expert on everything from aardvarks to zymurgy is wrong.

Nice try to keep us hypnotized so we don't fight for what is right, Naryar. His older hastily mounted campaigns were pernicious enough. His latest ones are decidedly beyond the pale. Some people feel that the doom-and-gloom, it's-too-late crowd always plays right into Naryar's hands. Others suspect that some time ago I conducted a series of in-depth interviews in which I discovered that most respondents indisputably don't want Naryar to recover the dead past by annihilating the living present. In the interest of clearing up the confusion I'll make the following observation: If it weren't for bitter, callous moral weaklings, Naryar would have no friends.

Naryar can push me only so far and no farther. For proof of this fact I must point out that I act based on what I think is right, not who I think is right. That's why I try always to supply the missing ingredient that could stop the worldwide slide into terrorism. It's also why I say that his blandishments are designed to erase the memory of all traditions and all history. And they're working; they're having the desired effect.

Of course, I'm generalizing a little here. But that's only because Naryar lives in a mental and emotional la-la land. An obvious parallel from a slightly different context is that the costs of his prevarications outweigh their benefits. But the problems with his vituperations don't end there. It's good that you're reading this letter. It's good that you're listening to what I'm saying. But reading and listening aren't enough. You must also be willing to help me present a noble vision of who we were, who we are, and who we can potentially be.

Where does the line get drawn? As I often like to put it, Naryar just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to treat people like self-serving sensualists." We cannot afford to waste our time, resources, and energy by dwelling upon inequities of the past. Instead, we must focus on what unites rather than divides us while remaining true to those beliefs, ideals, and aspirations we hold most dear. Doing so would be significantly easier if more people were to understand that Naryar demands absolute and blind obedience from his lieutenants. If he didn't, they might question his orders to increase society's cycle of hostility and violence. This unrelenting demand of obedience also implies that Naryar thrives on the victimization of others. Or, to express that sentiment without all of the emotionally charged lingo, if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less amateurish than Naryar. Sorry for babbling so much, but Baron Naryar the Intolerable V has never inscribed his name on the Parthenon of human excellence, either mental or moral.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 04:52:08 PM
This isn't a serious protest on my part, I'm just joining in for the lulz

YES! Another great post by MNB =D
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
Sign me up. I bring to attention the following actions of the recently appointed Global Moderator and self-confessed "Villain", Nayar.
 
   
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: J on November 01, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
YES! Another great post by MNB =D
Except this is the interwebz, and nobody reads things that are at least 3 sentences long.
Sad, but true.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 04:55:27 PM
YES! Another great post by MNB =D
Except this is the interwebz, and nobody reads things that are at least 3 sentences long.
Sad, but true.
tl;dr :trollface
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Fracture on November 01, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Except this is the interwebz, and nobody reads things that are at least 3 sentences long.
Sad, but true.
tl;dr

Edit: >_______________________>
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: J on November 01, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
YES! Another great post by MNB =D
Except this is the interwebz, and nobody reads things that are at least 3 sentences long.
Sad, but true.
tl;dr :trollface
My last post was at least 1 sentence(hardly 2, really).
lrn2Interwebz
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 04:57:01 PM
i'mma just assume MNB's gonna be a patriot as well. :P
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 04:57:30 PM
YES! POINTLESS CONVERSATION! =D
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 01, 2011, 04:57:33 PM
Actually, I asked Nary to delete the pony thread because you idiots were spamming it.

I also asked for mod powers in the new one I just made, let's see if I get that request granted...
Also, my post count dropped by about 200 posts lol.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 04:58:22 PM
Sign me up. I bring to attention the following actions of the recently appointed Global Moderator and self-confessed "Villain", Nayar.
 
 
  • Altering various member's posts without cause or necessity,  both throughout the Junk Yard, and in the MLP thread, further breaching his own GTM Constitution regulations.
  •   Spamming the "Eyebrows" image in General Chatter, and also the MLP thread, which was not located in Junk Yard, thus going directly against the GTM Constitution that he personally contributed towards and set up.
  •   Hijacking  FOTEPX's account and altering his Username and Avatar for demoralising purposes without reason.

Bringing this back to attention.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: J on November 01, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
Actually, I asked Nary to delete the pony thread because you idiots were spamming it.
LESS SHIPPING WOULD BE NICE.
But do they listen? No.

Also, I had a feeling you were the one who asked for it to be removed.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Badnik96 on November 01, 2011, 04:59:09 PM
what is this

I'm getting some popcorn. *walks over to SoTG, putting on a troll face mask and staring at 027*
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 04:59:26 PM
Actually, I can see some real, and I mean, real problems with his policies.

First, the new strictness of the rules was not necessary. A new global mod to relieve Kill from having to do most of the work is fine, and would help, but really, with most of the n00bs banned there was not a lot of point to several of the rules he put in place. Add to that his spamming of that dumb "Eyebrows" thing it's actually pretty bad.

I have nothing against Nary, but he needs to get a hold of himself.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
Actually, I asked Nary to delete the pony thread because you idiots were spamming it.

I also asked for mod powers in the new one I just made, let's see if I get that request granted...
Also, my post count dropped by about 200 posts lol.


Well, that's fair enough. I can understand why you did that.

But our other points still stand. ala NFX's post:

Sign me up. I bring to attention the following actions of the recently appointed Global Moderator and self-confessed "Villain", Nayar.
 
 
  • Altering various member's posts without cause or necessity,  both throughout the Junk Yard, and in the MLP thread, further breaching his own GTM Constitution regulations.
  •   Spamming the "Eyebrows" image in General Chatter, and also the MLP thread, which was not located in Junk Yard, thus going directly against the GTM Constitution that he personally contributed towards and set up.
  •   Hijacking  FOTEPX's account and altering his Username and Avatar for demoralising purposes without reason.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 04:59:59 PM
I would normally support the humorous "attacks" Naryar has commited.
However, he now represents the system, so really I should fight against him.
I am confused.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: smashysmashy on November 01, 2011, 05:00:46 PM
I would normally support the humorous "attacks" Naryar has commited.
However, he now represents the system, so really I should fight against him.
I am confused.
Go with your head, not your heart =P
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 05:00:57 PM
so...do mad and scorpse want to be patriots ? :D
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Badnik96 on November 01, 2011, 05:01:16 PM
I love watching drama unfold, it's so entertaining
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 05:02:17 PM
I would normally support the humorous "attacks" Naryar has commited.
However, he now represents the system, so really I should fight against him.
I am confused.
Go with your head, not your heart =P
Heart? All that's telling me is blood circulation is fine atm.
My head says I should just go with whatever is the most chaotically entertaining.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Natef on November 01, 2011, 05:02:39 PM
What was the eyebrows thing?
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
he now represents the system, so really I should fight against him.
This is pretty much my view. If he's going to be a moderator, he needs to refrain from abusing his powers just for the sake of abusing them. And so far, he's been doing an absolutely terrible job of doing that.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 05:03:22 PM
i have a feeling this is either going to go out really, really badly with me getting banned, or something productive might actually happen.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: J on November 01, 2011, 05:03:46 PM
HEY GUYS! I GOT A GREAT IDEA! LETS KEEP POKING THAT BEEHIVE WITH A STICK! =D
I'm being sarcastic, of course.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 05:04:34 PM
What was the eyebrows thing?
Annoying flash image that played boring D&B. Should have been spoilered, even before the GTM constitution.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 01, 2011, 05:04:36 PM
You all really should get NoScript for Firefox and disallow gametechmods. Never worry about stupid flash spam ever again!
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 05:04:56 PM
i have a feeling this is either going to go out really, really badly with me getting banned, or something productive might actually happen.
If we actually put together a decent case against him, with evidence to go with it, then something productive might happen. If we keep going off topic here, though, then I imagine it would get overlooked.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 05:07:00 PM
i have a feeling this is either going to go out really, really badly with me getting banned, or something productive might actually happen.
If we actually put together a decent case against him, with evidence to go with it, then something productive might happen. If we keep going off topic here, though, then I imagine it would get overlooked.
Okay. Lets organize a proposal and explain alternative policies and techniques which would better suit the situation.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 05:09:24 PM
So, because I have IRL biz, I appoint NFX and madman as leaders, and people to actually
Get something done.
To everyone else:
This is still peaceful protest. Keep it that way.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on November 01, 2011, 05:09:58 PM
what is this

I'm getting some popcorn. *walks over to SoTG, putting on a troll face mask and staring at 027*
Here you go, one box of popcorn
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 05:13:20 PM
That's fine by me. I'll start by reiterating the points I made on page one.
 
Sign me up. I bring to attention the following actions of the recently appointed Global Moderator and self-confessed "Villain", Nayar.
 
 
 
  • Altering various member's posts without cause or necessity,  both throughout the Junk Yard, and in the MLP thread, further breaching his own GTM Constitution regulations.
  • Spamming the "Eyebrows" image in General Chatter, and also the MLP thread, which was not located in Junk Yard, thus going directly against the GTM Constitution that he personally contributed towards and set up.
  • Hijacking  FOTEPX's account and altering his Username and Avatar for demoralising purposes without reason.
 

I'm wanting to propose that if there is any further instances of Naryar abusing his privileges, then he be stripped of his Global Moderator position at the very least. He has not proven that he can use his powers responsibly, and if he can't do that, then his powers should be revoked.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: martymidget on November 01, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
I feel its too soon for this. Let him have his fun, and then he'll probably be fine afterwards.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 05:20:57 PM
Heil Naryar!
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
In addition, I believe that there are unnecessary changes to the old system that were too strict. The strict warning system now in practice serves a strong deterring role but applying warnings for even slightly off topic posts is close to pointless and provides the threads with already decreasing humour with a really laugh killer. Warnings should be applied for strong flaming, wherever it is, swearing, and spam that is either offensive, or extremely over the top, such as image spam.

If Nary is to be a global mod, he should abide his own rules, and relax the ones which are more or less unnecessary with a strengthened Mod force at hand as it is. In addition, he should not strip thread rights from people simply because he disagrees with them or if they are under warning, at least in playground.

Heil Naryar!
Go back to being his rival or something.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 05:24:23 PM
Down with Naryar!
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 05:28:23 PM
Down with Naryar!
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 05:32:31 PM
Putting together a PM to send to someone. Anyone got ideas on who to send it to?
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Mr. AS on November 01, 2011, 05:33:02 PM
Putting together a PM to send to someone. Anyone got ideas on who to send it to?
ACAMS
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Preytor_4 on November 01, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
Putting together a PM to send to someone. Anyone got ideas on who to send it to?

Kill, Joey, Click, or Acams.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 05:33:46 PM
Fair enough. I'll try ACAMS, and see how that goes.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 01, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
ACAMS hates PM's....

...but he's still probably the only person you could really complain to.

He will also most likely tell you to man up and deal with it.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
Awesome song.
B.O.T, and, being serious, I agree with you guys.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 05:36:15 PM
Kill, ACAMS, and Click, in that order. Other mods like Trov might not be a bad idea.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 05:38:05 PM
Spamming everybody's inbox is a dumb idea. I'm sure either kill, ACAMS or Joeblo would see this thread anyway, so what's the point, all it'll do is get on their nerves more and make them less receptive to your points.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2011, 05:40:25 PM
Well, it's been sent now. Not much we can do now, other than sit back and see what happens.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2011, 05:41:37 PM
Who'd you send it to?
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 05:44:27 PM
Well, it's been sent now. Not much we can do now, other than sit back and see what happens.
Form the Duma :P

But seriously, some forms of debate as to the rules of the forum needs to be added, not just Nary instantly declaring that he's empowering them. It's the sort of thing that would prevent problems like this, with Nary running loose and the GTM Constitution.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: 027 LB on November 01, 2011, 06:14:09 PM
REMOVING THE PONY THREAD
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86303AGGGGH.PNG)
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 06:15:56 PM
Image spam isn't going to help our case.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: 027 LB on November 01, 2011, 06:17:02 PM
Image spam isn't going to help our case.
That, was me showing just what is going on right now.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: madman3 on November 01, 2011, 06:18:57 PM
Yeah, we're forming some sort of peaceful protest with NFX at its head. We'll see how it will work.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on November 01, 2011, 07:08:04 PM
While I'm not thrilled with Naryar's early use of his mod powers, I have to say this is a little premature to be questioning his abilities. I mean, he's been a global mod for five days. And it's not as if this place has absolutely gone to heck in that time either. We've had a harmless prank that lasted one day, a closure of a thread at the request of it's author and a couple of far too harsh warnings. All in all, no big deal.

I do think that we need to get some things straight, however. Naryar, what you view as spam is viewed by the rest of the forum members as harmless discourse. Thus, your warnings earlier to Smashysmashy and NateF are absolutely laughable and entirely unwarranted. The standards you seem to have are neither shared nor desired by the rest of the community, and are generally viewed as far too harsh, extreme and unreasonable, as evidenced by the existence of this thread.

Remember: you're a moderator, not a one-man legal system. Your job is to ensure that things on the forum operate smoothly in a way that satisfies the community. Your job isn't to dictate the law and punish as you see fit. You're a policeman, not a tyrant. This means that you enforce the standards that the community decides are the best and the most productive, not to operate on your own agenda and mold Gametechmods into your ideal image as you seem wont to do.

So, what does this mean? This means that while we still don't want excessive spam cluttering the showcases, one or two offtopic posts should not count as "spam." "Spam" should be defined as posts that do not add any content to the thread topic, are deliberately off-topic, AND are not addressing and previous posts in the thread. So even if a member makes an off-topic comment, it isn't necessarily spam if it is in conversation with another member. Of course, excessive off-topic posts are also an undesirable outcome, but raising a members warning level is a step that is too extreme. Instead, if and only if an off-topic conversation persists (say, lasts more than 5-7 posts), a written warning of "back on topic, guys" should suffice. After which, any posts still off-topic (within the same thread and a reasonable time frame) may be punished by, lets say, a 5% warn level for each consequent post.

While the above is just a thought, I strongly suggest you use it or a similar system to keep the discontent with your moderation from growing to unmanagable amounts.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 01, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
Sharky speaks good sense.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 07:52:21 PM
Ah, glad to not see this burned down into a flame war. Thanks a bunch mad and NFX :D
But yea, hopefully ACAMS will see your pm and will sort things out.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 01, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
ACAMS HATES PMS! :rage
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: MassimoV on November 01, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
I would like to ask, what is the main goal of the revolution? I see you are unhappy with Naryar, but what do you want, no more mad powers a change in his ways, just currious?
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 08:31:18 PM
i want him to be impeached as global moderator if this keeps going on.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: kill343gs on November 01, 2011, 08:32:45 PM
R0B0 as always hit the nail on the head for me.

I'll talk to him about issuing some written warnings instead of adjusting percentages in the staff forum...

No need for this overreaction bullsh**, someone could have just PM'd me. I ain't gone yet, kids.

And he isn't going to be impeached. When I became a mod I was afraid to use my powers. He just so happens to be the polar opposite. He just needs some time to adjust.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Somebody on November 01, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Good freakin luck guys.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: Enigm@ on November 01, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
yaaaaaaaay something got done. :D
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Title: Re: GTM REVOLUTION THREAD
Post by: kill343gs on November 01, 2011, 08:39:18 PM
yaaaaaaaay something got done. :D
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

On that note...