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Robot Arena => Modifications => Topic started by: RedSawn on April 06, 2013, 02:04:06 PM
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Just a topic to centralize all efforts for this little project.
Right now while toying with DSL 3 I've been recreating stock bots. Perhaps these could be turned into an AI pack as a temporary fix for computer controlled opponents.
The idea is present the stock AI in a more competitive DSL3 form. Capturing the essence, but less of the suck (i.e Stock Backslash being a wedgebot with ground clearance like a shopping trolley)
I am able to AI if other people can't. But what I'm not sure about is how we'll organise our efforts. Should we call bots we want to work on, vote on bots a la Ian's AW pack, or something else?
Right now here's a list of what I've seen so far. People who have expressed interest in building a bot are listed below. Names with links are pictures of what the builder has created.
RED ZONE
Scout - Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7174Scout.png) (Skin) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69545scoutskin.png), Sylandro (http://i48.tinypic.com/dypzlu.png)
ALARM - Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39265ALARM.png) (v2) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62129alarm2.png)
Sentinel - R1885 (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91639primedsentinel.png), Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66253sentinel.png)
PREHISTORIC
Roly Poly - Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/72955RolyPoly.png) (v2) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30568rolypolyv2.png)
Sabertooth - Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18846Sabertooth.png) (Skin) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/72501saberv2.png)
Grog, the Warrior - Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/578Grog.png) (Skin) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82968grogv2.png), Kossokei (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93206Grog.jpg) (other side) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9015Grog2.jpg)
The Good ol' Boys
Catfish - R1885
Mud Runner - R1885, Badnik
BEAR - R1885
Team Dragon
Ninja - Naryar, Kossokei, 090901 (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50928desuuuuuuuu.png)
Bushido - Naryar, Kossokei (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40612Bushido1.jpg)
Ronin - Naryar, Kossokei
BLACK STORM
BOT-204 - Badnik (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86931bot204.png), 090901 (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62924bot420.png) (v2) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35117screenshot_2.png), Squirrel_Monkey (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56450DSL3BOT204.png)
Devil - Mystic, Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2317devil.png)
Coal Miner - Mystic
Team SPARK
JACKPOT! - WhamettNutt, Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/98884jackpot.png)
The Boxer - WhamettNutt
EMERGENCY - WhamettNutt
Spike Heads
M.A.D - Wolfsbane
Dementia - MikeNCR (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30296NCRdementia.png)
Little Metal Friend - Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5781numetalfriend.png), Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66459littlemetalfriend copy.png)
North Polers
MiniBerg - MikeNCR (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65292NCRminiberg.png)
Iceberg - Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50469Iceflue.png)
Snow Job - AlexGRFan (http://i50.tinypic.com/166hqp.png) (insides) (http://i48.tinypic.com/or6tya.png)
HIGH VOLTAGE
Flapjack - R1885, Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59186flapjack.png)
BackSlash - Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34220BackSlash.png), akshaylan (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28907flapjack.png) (insides) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41107flapjack_inside.png)
WIDE LOAD - Wolfsbane, Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/37638wideload.png)
Team HEX
Flame Chopper - Lightning (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23811team1.PNG), Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39392ChipChopper.png)
LugNut - Lightning (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23811team1.PNG), Wolfsbane
Hanky Panky - Lightning (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31719hw1.PNG)
Team Z
Bezerker - Mystic, Mr. AS, Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27076bezerker%20copy.png)
Razor - Mystic, Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/61727razor copy.png)
Eye Poker - Mystic, Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71326eye%20patcher.png)
Steelyard Dogs
Lil' Dog - MikeNCR (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74182NCRlildog.png)
Da Dog - Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95312Yo%20Dawg.png)
Big Dog - Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/12797nastydog.png)
RIOT
Civil Disobedience - Badnik
REVENGE - AlexGRFan, Mr. AS, Squirrel_Monkey (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35370DSL3REVENGE.png)
Raptor - AlexGRFan (http://i45.tinypic.com/2cqdu0x.png) (insides) (http://i46.tinypic.com/9vd2mt.png)
MEGATON
Stinger - WhamettNutt
Tornado - WhamettNutt, Mr. AS, 090901 (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/99623tttttornadodoododo.png), Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27496tornado.png)
DEADBEAT - WhamettNutt, Kossokei (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17143NoPulse2.jpg) (other side) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48476NoPulse.jpg)
The Scrappers
Arc Pounder - MikeNCR (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19474NCRarc.png), Mr. AS
Ripblade - Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58061Ripblade3.png), Redline (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76778ripblade.png)
Backyard Ripper - AlexGRFan (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66344alexbackyard.png), MikeNCR (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33979NCRbackyard.png)
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The Rookies:
C.R.U.S.H
Forkie - Redline
BOT-CHOY
Atom Smasher
Sting Ray - Badnik
Walrus - 123savethewhales
XTRA Bots:
Spin Bonker - Thyrus (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59370Spinbonker.png)
Tailwhip - Mr. AS
Barbershop Chop - Redline
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I'll do Team SPARK & Megaton if ya want? :)
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Sure, I'll put you down for those teams.
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I posted Ripblade, Big Dog and Da Dog in my showcase so far
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I can do Team Z and finish Black Storm
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i have tailwhip done xd
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@Thyrus and Mystic: Added and added.
@Mr. AS: Que?
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I can do any rammers or pokers if you need them.
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I'll add Backyard Ripper to my contributions.
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@Mr. AS: Que?
is this ai pack going to have its version of the rookies? because tailwhip is for that
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I`d say we make the rookies and the xtrabots to AI as well. I also could provide an extra HW if red wants it
edit: I can also do flamechopper
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@Wolfsbane: That would be M.A.D, WIDE LOAD and LugNut I believe. Or atleast those are the ones that haven't been claimed.
@Alex, Lightning and Thyrus: Added.
@Mr. AS and Thyrus: Oh! Shows me how much I know about The Rookies. I haven't thought that far ahead but it makes sense to do so, at the same time this is an AI pack to get the 15 teams working so people have something to test robots against. How would we include the Rookies? A bonus AI team, or still as the example team?
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I would say AI team. This is just the beta so people who play it should know how things look like.
I might have an idea for Iceberg
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team dragon
all of it
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Can I send you my two bots so you can skin them? I don't trust myself to do a good job
Also I'll do Mud Runner
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Redline, have you seen my scout?
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@Thyrus, Naryar: Added
@Badnik: Sure, I can do some skins too.
@Sylandro: Cool, I'll add it to the list right away.
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I'm working on a Sentinel, will post once work on my computer is done.
Also willing to work on Flap Jack and the Good ol boys team.
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just done Razor will showcase it soon
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I'll take a stab at Dementia, Miniberg, Lil' Dog and Arc Pounder
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i'll try arc pounder, berzerker, tornado, revenge, and some of the rookies. DSL 3 lets me just pump out bots...
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I know Naryar already called these, but I'm experimenting with possible Ninja, Bushido and Ronin designs and I'd like to put my name on those
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Everyone's added, I also have the Rookie and XTRA bots (or the XTRA bots that aren't already in Rookies) listed now.
Sure. People can do the same bot if they want to, as long as we can decide how to get a final roster.
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Here's the 4 I said I'd do-
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/TempDSL3AI MikeNCR.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/TempDSL3AI MikeNCR.rar)
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I wanted to try dementia as well but yours is so lovely already
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I'll take Sting Ray too if that's OK.
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All OK.
Nice work, Mike. I've uploaded pictures of your bots, at this point in time when everyone is still picking robots and redesigning them might be a bit undemocratic to immediately implement them. (But if they do make it I have them waiting x) )
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Noooooooooooooooooo
Why is Mr. AS' SnS the new Tailwhip
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Noooooooooooooooooo
Why is Mr. AS' SnS the new Tailwhip
It's not
it doesn't have to be
I think we can vote on these, don't vote on it if you don't like it.
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i was more or less joking about that being in this ai pack, im going to make a less black sheep-y tailwhip soon :dumb)
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Oh x) Fair enough. Since you didn't mean it I'll revert it back to 'interest' status.
I should probably revert my own status on Barbershop as it's not the correct class. Though if the XTRA bots get an AI team it's missing a lightweight.. (At the same time outside of the first 15 teams classes won't matter as they cannot be part of singleplayer tournaments)
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50928desuuuuuuuu.png)
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posted flamechopper and little metal friend in my showcase.
I`m going to take a look at eyepoker now
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Posted my attempt of Raptor in my showcase. I already got a good idea of what I'm going to do with REVENGE, and it will turn out better than Raptor.
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I made a BOT-204 and a Tornado :3
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Added while you posted actually x)
Think everything is updated but I'm pretty overwhelmed by the response! If I missed anything or anyone let me know.
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it´s just what the community needed. a goal that is not to hard to reach and something we can work on together
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I did a Devil.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4246devil3.png)
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Just added the skins for my version of Grog and Sabertooth.
@Thyrus: True, true.
@TriTon: Cool rendition but if I were to classify the pack in black and white it would be DSL3 IRL. In reality it's maybe not as strict as IRL, but it's not DSL standard. Check out the other bots we have and see what sort of level we're working at here.
What are we going to do about the XTRA bot team? There are two middleweights and one heavyweight. It's not a team used for tournaments so it won't affect anything, but what do you think?
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just make it.a team. ripblade was a hw and was in a official team.
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XTRAS and rookies can be extra ai teams.
and triton, click nerfed razors and wedges HARD so thats gonna suck.
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Cool rendition but if I were to classify the pack in black and white it would be DSL3 IRL. In reality it's maybe not as strict as IRL, but it's not DSL standard.
gawd dangit
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Trust Windows 8 to break the ability to make screen shots, but Sentinel is done.
EDIT: Never mind, got FRAPS to do it.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91639primedsentinel.png)
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at first I thought this is scout :D
I`ve sended my 8 bots to red earlier this day
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Redline: check my showcase (I won't give you the bots until I complete the bots I said I would do)
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Oho, this is getting really really hard to keep up with. I think everything is there though.
Not to mention I have coursework to hand in in 7 days, so I may have to slow down on updates until it passes.
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I have to make a new Revenge and finish Backyard Mangler.
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how and when will wo vote?
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Well, we can't really have a deadline until all of the bots have been made at least once. I don't know how long I'd give it. But yeah, most likely there'd be a vote for which version of each bot at the same time when the deadline is over.
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Backslash:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28907flapjack.png (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28907flapjack.png)
Insides:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41107flapjack_inside.png (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41107flapjack_inside.png)
It says flapjack in some of the URLs because I made a mistake
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Oh cool.
I won't be reading mail or updating this for the next day and a bit. My assignment is in on Monday. If anyone knows much about using SQL then creating a HTML page with PHP functions, then you can help.
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Got a Bushido in my showcase, that's all for the night.
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Forgot to post last night, I updated the listings with those ones. I can't keep track of the showcases, so can contributors post bots or that they've made a bot here?
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how is this going along?
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While I can make progress on unmade bots slowly, the sooner we have something for all bots, the sooner we can set a deadline for extra entries and then move into what we can call Phase 2, the voting.
I'm plagued with coursework deadlines right now but I've added Sentinel, WIDE LOAD and Devil for myself.
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I want to rebuild Warlus
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Sure, added you to the list.
This opens up an opportunity to say I made Little Metal Friend and Razor.
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Did a Backyard Ripper:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Backyard Ripper.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Backyard Ripper.rar)
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Eh, I gave up on this a while ago. If anyone wants to improve it, go ahead.
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Will this be released in BETA?
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I would believe so since this is to give us a good selection of AI bots to fight that are able to perform in DSL3.
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My personal apologies on behalf of bumping, but are there any updates to this? When should we finish the construction of these machines?
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It's cool.
Well, I thought interest had died out since I haven't had many additions (Even then I'm behind, sorry Mike). And to be fair, even my interest is dying a little. Not only that, the entire point of the pack is a bit diminished as NAR AI v3 is out, and this was supposed to fill the gap before a real pack came out.
What are we going to do at this point?
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if we have enought bots back them into teams and release it as it is
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We don't. We're missing Catfish, Mud Runner, BEAR, Ninja, Ronin, Coal Miner, The Boxer, EMERGENCY, MAD, Civil Disobedience and Stinger, and we need to settle which version of Scout, Sentinel, Grog, BOT-204, Little Metal Friend, Backslash, Flame Chopper, Tornado, Ripblade and Backyard Ripper to use, assuming we don't get other duplicates.
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Yeah, that's what I'd say aswell. I'll try and muster up the effort to finish my V2 Revenge first though. We'll hold polls about the various versions of robots, put them together, and create an extra team for the really good robots that unfortunately lost in the polls, because there's bound to be some.
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We don't. We're missing Catfish, Mud Runner, BEAR, Ninja, Ronin, Coal Miner, The Boxer, EMERGENCY, MAD, Civil Disobedience and Stinger, and we need to settle which version of Scout, Sentinel, Grog, BOT-204, Little Metal Friend, Backslash, Flame Chopper, Tornado, Ripblade and Backyard Ripper to use, assuming we don't get other duplicates.
You could just include all versions and have them fill the extra 3 spots on each team.
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I like mikes idea
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That works. I'll have to get the thing that extends the bot teams, but it works.
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I like Mike's idea too. Let's roll with that.
(please don't include my crappy V1 Revenge, please)
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https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/AI Lightweights.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/AI Lightweights.rar)
Here's all the lightweights that don't appear to have been done. Kept the style/weapons the same for easy drop in.
Edit: Middleweights- https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/AI Middleweights.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/AI Middleweights.rar)
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Seriously, the whole reason for doing this is so people will have some bots to fight. Bundle it up and release it! You guys have done plenty of work with this, and as click has said there will likely be a lot of changes when the official DSL 3 is released. You don't want too much work to go to waste when that happens. If you release it now people will have some time to make good use of it.
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and for good measure, heavyweights- https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/AI Heavyweights.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/AI Heavyweights.rar)
I think that's the lot of the bots you needed.
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So, what's happening with this?
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I think they just gave up on it. It's really easy to build a bot based on a bot that's already made in RA2, so there really aren't any excuses.
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I think they just gave up on it. It's really easy to build a bot based on a bot that's already made in RA2, so there really aren't any excuses.
There is still a ton of bots missing, and no, it's not that easy. You have to actually make it look GOOD, not some piece of crap. Then you have to go and skin it, and AI it. Do you really think building 45 robots, skinning them, and then AIing them is easy?
ALSO I CANT DO MATH
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How many people are working on it right now?
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I think they just gave up on it. It's really easy to build a bot based on a bot that's already made in RA2, so there really aren't any excuses.
There is still a ton of bots missing, and no, it's not that easy. You have to actually make it look GOOD, not some piece of crap. Then you have to go and skin it, and AI it. Do you really think building 75 robots, skinning them, and then AIing them is easy?
I actually finished all of the bots that didn't already have at least one example up and posted it in this very thread, so there's at least one of every bot.
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Hm, it seems Red hasn't been online since June 2nd too.
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So... they have given up on it.
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Yeah I think Red's on hiatus. Mike could probably take it over seeing how many bots he has.
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https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/DSL3AI-PartialMikeNCR.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/DSL3AI-PartialMikeNCR.rar)
Here's a pile that can be dropped right into the beta without touching the AI/Bindings. 15 bots total. If anyone wants to run with it from here, feel free. Current intention is functional, ok bots. Not worrying much about making them exceptional.