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Robot Arena => Modifications => Topic started by: life robot arena2 on July 23, 2009, 10:44:11 AM
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I'll do a AI pack while im doing my component skins.
Sending teams
I'll allow 6 teams from each builder.(Note if you are a rookie or just flat out SUCK then you need premisoin from me. Ask by Email or PM.)
There is two kinds: Stock and DSL.
Bot0MUST be a LW Bot2 MUST be a MW and Bot3 MUST be a HW and Bot4'5 and 6 can be a AW'BW'FW or SHW.
YOU MUST AI YOURSELF!(or get help.)
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This will not end well....
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I really don't think you will get many bots....
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What if you get to DESTROY COID?
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Really does not bring much joy, though I suppose....
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... WTF, mate?
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I will now reveal 2 of my teams bots.... Bot5 is the dsl pack SHW called COID which is fixed and stock Bot1 is micro to win(MW)
Micro to win has Doomkillers bindings and COID has joeblo's.
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Wait a minute here, your combining stock and DSL in the same AI pack? There is a 0% chance of that working out because stock bots suck in DSL and DSL bots don't work in stock. 6 teams from each builder? Very few people are going to have that many teams, especially considering many have already dedicated teams to other AI packs. Have you learned to AI, because that is another skill neccesary in making an AI pack. The question in my head now is, did you learn anything from your 2 days away from GTM or are we just going to keep doing this? Because I'm not playing around with you anymore. I would have PM'd this to you but I never get an answer.
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LRA2 you really just don't listen to anyone. You need to slow down and just make your bots better before you start making AI packs and component skins. Odds are you are not going to listen to anyone anyway so i don't know why i'm even bothering.
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LRA2 you are going to have to learn to AI and start becoming a better member here before you plan something big. Right now you are wasting everybody's time posting threads that are way over your head.
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I guess your trying to help the community but........
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Your trying to make an AI pack...
YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
This is an idea i see going down the drain...
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this is a nice idea to make a AI pack for the community but ... there are some in progress yet.
Better than dispersing our resources the best should be to "all converge".
So if you are skilled and really want to be helpfull -> you may send DSL AIed Pack to Naryar, as long as your bots are not a mockery of other ones.
An other simple and really appreciated way to be helpful is to stop spamming all around, get a little humbleness, show your bot, accept to learn from other and try to be inventive... or simply funny... not boring.
Why not learn to AI bot, ask for help and then create your own strange machines ?
other way, if you're a hopeless bad builder try to be skilled at painting etc etc.
but there is no much future soon for your AI pack.
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Note if you are a rookie or just flat out SUCK then you need permission from me. Ask by Email or PM
given your building abilities this claim wasn't ever going to go down to well in my opinion
Bot0MUST be a LW Bot2 MUST be a MW and Bot3 MUST be a HW and Bot4'5 and 6 can be a AW'BW'FW or SHW.
few matters to address the bot files go Bot0 (lw) Bot1 (mw) Bot2 (hw) then Bot3 Bot4 and Bot5 for other bots.
YOU MUST AI YOURSELF!(or get help.)
this is another problem you need to be able to AI yourself to work out any problems and increase the number of submissions, if everyone does it themselves how an it really be your AI pack ??? also do you know how to put teams into the game, along with bindings, teams names, etc ?
Micro to win has Doomkillers bindings and COID has joeblo's.
and I thought you said my bindings were all wrong ??? (several times) after your last insults im not terribly fond of giving you more favors :neutral:
from personal experience AI packs take a lot of work....I personally think sticking to your components skins would be a much more manageable task for your current knowledge of modding..
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I think JoeBlo summed up everything pretty nicely. Weather he will listen or not is another question.
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OFFICIAL LRA2 GUIDE TO HAVING A CHANCE AT EARNING AN OUNCE OF RESPECT
1. End all big projects such as tourney plans or AI packs and just hold on to the ideas, but don't do them now, because you are in way over your head
2. Start showcasing again. Good bots=respect, and it is no use bragging about a bot if we don't know if it is good or not. Don't go saying 'I can beat SnSnSnSnS with my new SnS" without us knowing or not, because when it comes to building, people like us know more than you do. Always listen to the advice and try it out, because it really helps. They are trying to help you. They won't tell you bad advice to sabotage the bot.
3. Let CC2 go. It doesn't matter how good or bad the AI was, it is over. You lost and nothing you can say is going to change it. Just wait for the Clash Cubes AI Pack to come out, and try your luck against other bots in that.
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Besides everyone knows that COID is only just around 600 kg.
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This Still will go on...
ALL THE DSL AI WILL BE UPDATED.
and the replica's will be stripped of there custom parts and turned into normal AI.
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Do you not understand? People don't want you making AI packs and tourneys because you are a n00b and nobody likes you. So don't. If you're not going to let this go GTFO!
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Hush now...
A few of us are already helping him improve it, so it should turn out nicely. ;)
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hey LRA2, there is a lot of work ahead and your really jumping the gun a bit, I did say wait before jumping in with the thread ok ? just hold off telling everyone until we are close to finishing everything :-D
Edit: yeah like Pwnator said, I think people could possibly lay off LRA2 a bit, by the sounds of what he has told me, he is putting a lot of effort into this
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I'll probably DL this for some fun.
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(Note if you are a rookie or just flat out SUCK then you need premisoin from me. Ask by Email or PM.)
Just noticed... well, as someone said at whatever time, you should practice what you preach. If you want good teams, you gotta be a good builder yourself.
Unless you get lucky. But still. The majority will only send crap bots, if at all.
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It will still be fun though, a change from the Norm.
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Maybe someone such as myself who has tried to do this before (Mr. Chaos AI Pack) should try to explain.
Maybe it's best to try to do one thing at a time, and the best thing to do is to narrow yourself to building DSL bots first. Although I don't touch RA2 so much as I used to, I still try to build. Sure, I don't showcase as much as the others and post as much, but I've been into the RA2 community since Aceuplink. I know that I've been basically yelled at about my pack almost the same way that yours is. I sorta regret making that pack after it was done.
The main line is this, just try to improve your bots and narrow your work down to that for now. When you see that the others approve of your work, then do a project or better yet, contribute to another person's project.
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I heard lra2 wanted to change his avatar, so since he does not know how to change his own......I changed it for him hehehehehe!
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Hahahahaha.... classic, this should be annual, time to find fail pics.
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I think he could do this, actually. However, LRA2, SLOW DOWN. Try getting only one team from a person. Get some AIing skills before you do this, because a lot of great builders can't AI well. Try not to be so hard on the contributors, and this might go well.
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Can I be the first to say a big block of text isn't a good AI tutorial?
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dont worry about the first post Condor33 thats old and Im working with LRA2 to put together an AI pack with him, the deal was I wanted him to learn AIing first and so far he is coming along quite good :-D
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I was working on a replace ment for the anoyying Peer preasure.
But the game crashes when you face it.
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If it's annoying, then it's good enough. :P
If it crashes, post the bindings here and we'll help you out.
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These are the bindings.
list.append(("BW-Smash Cube","Omni",{'nose':math.pi*2,'range':99,'radius':0.1,'topspeed':100,'throttle':130,'turn':60,'turnspeed':4.5,'weapons':(2,)}))
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turnspeed is one word.
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I think that just happens when you post them onto a forum as I wrote that line with LRA2 together (unless LRA2 changed it).. I was thinking about the robot being called "Peer preasure" yet the bindings say "BW-Smash Cube" ???
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His replacement still says 'BW-Peer Pressure'?
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The bots name is BW-Smash Cube.
The bindings say the same thing.
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Hmm... I can't help you much here at this state. Just re-export the bot and replace the older one. And make sure it's named Bot3.bot.
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Bot4 was origonaly peer preasures place.
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Oops. My vision slipped. Anyway, did it work?
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only other thing I can think of at this stage is clean DSL 2.1 ? and the game you are trying to AI the robot in .. is it the same game you built it in ?
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Yes and Yes.
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did you wan tto send me over your whole bindings.txt file ? that way I can get a better look at things
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Are you tryng to copy the NAR AI?
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Yay Naryar's back!
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Who rated this 5*?
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TG:Probably LRA2.
Naryar: He isn't, the Nar AI Pack has GOOD bots in it.
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ANNOUNCEMENT:Team RA2 will be changed to a new team called......The COID,ers.
The LRA2 bot pack version and CC version will be in,With 4 NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,EVER,EVEEEERRRR seen versions.
Spin To win 2.0 is version 3.
Will anyone make a logo for the team?
I also dont know how to make a motto.
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unless u make bots better than the stock ai, or better than nar ai, not many pepo are gonna dl it.
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I think i might as well call this AI pack:Training AI.
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yha that would work.
people who think the other ai is too tough could dl yours.
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I also dont know how to make a motto.
jump into your AI folder and find the file teams.txt and open in in notpad you will see teams look like this
index 0
Red Zone
"Where your bot will be after ten seconds with ours."
AI\red_zone.bmp
Robots: 0 1 2 3 4 5
Robot In Event: -1
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16
16
0
0
0
0
0
100000
true
0
false
0
-1
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
0
0
the things I mark in red dont play around with, things I mark in green go for it :-D
index 0(this is which folder the team is in, you wont really need to change these)
Red Zone (this is the team name change it to what ever you want)
"Where your bot will be after ten seconds with ours." (this is the slogan, again go for it)
AI\red_zone.bmp(this is the image it will use as the team logo, make sure the image is in the AI file)
Robots: 0 1 2 3 4 5(how many robots and what robots are on the team)
Robot In Event: -1
0
16
16
0
0
0
0
0
100000
true
0
false
0
-1
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
0
0
hope that helps you
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people who think the other ai is too tough could dl yours.
LOL that pack is going to be worse than Stock DSL AI.
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I bet you I can beat one of his bots with flip test dummy!
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I dont think everyone should sit around and bash it, contributions to the community should be thanked, everyone keeps working at harder and harder AI no one has done easier before..
Im all for it LRA2, I actually used to have a lot of fun killing easy AI robots with a really powerful VS sending them oota all the time (good times)
I say go for it and if you ever need some UI the link is in my sig :P (hooray for plugging)
perhaps make a layout in your first post like I did in CCAI or click has done in BBEANS AI and show everyone each team and robots and logos (then you can request team names, etc)
come on people show a little more support :-D
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And if you ever need some assistance in building some bots, just showcase them and we'll help you out. :D
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VERY WELL.
I'll wait for this to get out and will then laugh... excepted if LRA2 somewhat kicks it's own ass and comes out with something decent.
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jump into your AI folder and find the file teams.txt and open in in notpad you will see teams look like this
the things I mark in red dont play around with, things I mark in green go for it :-D
hope that helps you
How do i make NEW teams?
BTW,I noticed that black storms slogon is different to the one in game.O_________O.?
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How do i make NEW teams?
All is here :
...here is a new version of the AI chart
LRA2, you're well known over here, sometime for the worst, maybe, i hope, tomorrow for the best (you could if you want), waiting for that, i propose that you create your own AI team, show it in a movie, and once i wil have seen that you have enough knwoldege in this domain, i will send you some 'easy teams', but make your proof first.
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How do i make NEW teams?
use the rfs ai version 1.5
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No matter,Made a team my self.
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How do i make NEW teams?
:? you filled up like 18 teams already ??? (DSL has 18 right :P)
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If you cant manage to figure it by yourself, then use Phil's tutorial.
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LOOK UP.
Any ways joe,NO.I,m just gonna do the COID,ers first.
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How come your doing an AI pack if we have to AI ourself i really dont get that
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I just found one of the teams here...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/835LRA2.bmp)
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bump!
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No need to bump this one... LRA2 has been banned and this AI pack will never be build.