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Robot Arena => Modifications => Topic started by: Sage on October 03, 2009, 12:09:07 AM
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As some of you may have noticed, Inf has left the forum. So, he sent me off to release his BETA of his first AI pack.
Things that will be included in final version:
New UI
Sages Skin Pack (FINAL VERSION)
15 Teams Built by INF
20 Community Teams
Custom Arena Designed by INF
This BETA only includes the 15 Teams that INF built, as well as the original Sage's Skin Pack BETA and some random custom components INF did not want to get rid of. The download will be a stand-alone game, meaning it's noob-proof. Here are INF's notes regarding the BETA:
For a FULL UNDERSTANDING of how difficult this pack is, fight the correct bot type against the correct bot type. Not HS versus popup. Or popup vs rammer. I just don't want noobs being like "TEH BOTZ ARNT GEWD" because they took a screenshot of their HS beating a popup.
Bots that Are going to Change
Wavelength (LW) - Will be replaced
Medium 2 (MW) - Will Rebuilt (OLDEST Version I have of any bot in my pack)
Platform of Death III (HW) - Will Rebuild with better wedges as P.O.D. IV
Vertical Horizon (HW) - Will be further improved with slightly different version with better wedges
Silver Bullet 2 (HW) - Will lighten snapper setup to try and rebuild with single wedge as SB III
Quark (LW) - Havoks when AIed )=
3 2 1 What (HW) - Used as filler
Disdain V (LW) - Axle-stack FAIL
Minimum (MW) - POSSIBLE Rebuild for better wedges
GreenSpawn (MW) - BTW Never saw Aedes before I built this; Needs better wedges
Radiance 3 (HW) - Better Wedge Rebuild; more armor coverage; possible swith to inline-four HP drive
Vital Force (HW) - Needs to be better built with better wedges
Shock (LW) - Technology/Weight Reduction Upgrade
Switch Of Death (HW) - Better wedge rebuild
Se\/ere (HW) - Needs Cleaner Setup; possible use of actuating wedges; needs better wedges
Kataclysm (HW) - Something needs to be changed...
Rolo II's (LW,HW) - Fillers for production delay
Dazed/Dimension 2 (MWs) - Both will probably get rebuilt in favor of better wedges
Wipeout (HW) - Will most likely get moved to team "Polar Destroyers" to fill 2nd HW spot and be renamed "Whiteout", better wedges
Photon (LW) - Didnt work as wanted, rebuild or scrap heap
Lightkeeper (HW) - Will use a different compact chassis to get rid of teh HAVOK
I KNOW Breaker is a better Scabies.
I KNOW Drowning Pool is an emulation of Clickbeetle's 'Sacrifice' Series
I KNOW some of these bots were used in RE-Stocked (Will Change)
I KNOW Infra was going to be used as Inside the Clock, but SC4 is going nowhere
None of the bots radius, turnspeed, turn, or throttle have been edited. Suggestions welcome for greater/lesser values
PB/Madiaba - Need Help getting Drowining Pool to flip over and then drive after inverting
If you want to contribute a team, then do so. Me and Inf will inspect and critique and then get back to you. But can you build a team good enough?
Community teams claimed:
1. Sage
2. Sage
3. Clickbeetle
4. Clickbeetle
5. Scrap Daddy
6. Scrap Daddy
7. Kill343gs
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The only other people who can have two teams are pyscolone and ACAMS. If you really feel you can build two quality teams, I will see if I can OK it with INF.
DOWNLOAD LINK:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PYN3C73K (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PYN3C73K)
If some of the bots don't work try replacing the Bindings with this one:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar)
ENJOY!
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wow so Inf has left.. like forever ? or just for a period of time ?
In the case of the former does that mean I send you the restocked UI I made so you can pass it on ? and does Inf still want me to make the UI for this pack or is it already covered ?
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Yes to all of your questions.
Inf is stubborn, but it's within reason. He will not consider coming back until roboman and lra2 are "shipped out." Those are his words.
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so he still wants me to make the UI ? not a problem :-D
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For Drowning Pool you just have to use InvertOmni.py (i think) in Phil's AI chart.
Also - i'll probably give something for this.
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Inf gave me a team a little while back. I have 3 of the 6 bots made so far so I'll submit them when I think they're ready.
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I want a team, and I already discussed it with inf BTW
the thing that kills me is that it will be using the skin pack =((((((( it slows down my computer to heck, when I try to open the weapons catagorey in botlab, it takes 18 seconds! do you think there could be 2 versions of the ai pack? one for skin pack and one without?
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lulz Inf is a .
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can we please not instigate more trouble :-D
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Yes to all of your questions.
Inf is stubborn, but it's within reason. He will not consider coming back until roboman and lra2 are "shipped out." Those are his words.
Tell Inf I know how this will play out. I've seen it before.
Either they Don't get shipped out because this ain't a nAZI forum, or the community gets ripped apart.
Another unlikely possibility is that you get banned, but not after some PM spam and goatse.
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Could I make a team?
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I want a team, and I already discussed it with inf BTW
the thing that kills me is that it will be using the skin pack =((((((( it slows down my computer to heck, when I try to open the weapons catagorey in botlab, it takes 18 seconds! do you think there could be 2 versions of the ai pack? one for skin pack and one without?
Theres no reason that it should take that long. I installed every components in FB's component pack along with my skin pack and it opens instantly, like it should.
Some of Inf's bots have skin pack parts on them, so releasing a version without will crash the game if you try to use any bot with a snowplow on it.
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Yes to all of your questions.
Inf is stubborn, but it's within reason. He will not consider coming back until roboman and lra2 are "shipped out." Those are his words.
i bet that flame wars will go down at least 50 %.
sage: do u think that the ai pack is better than starcore? if so i might help on it if its ok w/ inf.(which its probably not)
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There are some really, really good bots in here. It may not share the diversity that Starcore has, but the level of difficulty is very high.
If you want to contribute a team, then do so. Me and Inf will inspect and critique and then get back to you. But can you build a team good enough?
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I'll try to do a team.
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Its a shame Inf left....
I'll see if I can string togeather a team and send it.
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lol Inf left because of Bobo and Doink the clowns??? He has to know there not going to get shipped out, "Right". There going to be plenty of more members to come just like them so I really don't get it. Why can't he just ingnore them like everybody else it's not hard or jut continue to flame them like he always does, heck I wish I can get away with half of the flaming he does and not get in trouble. I agree with Serge Inf this does make you look like a big , and this is not going to prove anything but LRA2 and Roboman beat you. They ran you out your own forum lol.
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"I do not get enough respect for the help that I give around there, crude or not, and im simply not going to try and help and waste my time anymore."
-AIM conversation.
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I have a question: do I just send you the bots and tell you what types of bots they are/ team name?
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No offense at all, but I think all the emoticons in the team mottos do sound dumb.
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But the Enforcers motto did make me laugh. XD
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Yes this one was fine, and the other humoristic ones... But the rest...
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I have a question: do I just send you the bots and tell you what types of bots they are/ team name?
You need-
Team Name
Team Motto
Team logo
2 LWs 2 MWs 2 Hws.
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What size should the logo be?
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What size should the logo be?
Same as all the other team logos. Look in your AI folder.
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"I do not get enough respect for the help that I give around there, crude or not, and im simply not going to try and help and waste my time anymore."
He was never that helpful anyway.
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He was never that helpful anyway.
says the guy who gives advice like this:
WEAPON FAIL
SHRINK CHASSIS
GENERIC MOAR PLZ
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He was never that helpful anyway.
Yes he was. Sage and I are both proof of that.
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You can be nice and helpful, look at Click.
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You can be nice and helpful, look at Click.
Not everybody is perfect.
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I'm not even going to try...
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2 LWs 2 MWs 2 Hws.
No AWs/BWs?
I'm probably going to submit my Sacrifice bots, so I'll make an AI for them that will work with Drowning Pool.
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I thought of my team name, but no motto!
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This AI pack is pretty Friggin awsome so far i cant wait till you guys are completely done with it
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No AWs/BWs?
I'm probably going to submit my Sacrifice bots, so I'll make an AI for them that will work with Drowning Pool.
Im just going with what Inf has for his teams. If you want to submit some AWs and BWs go ahead.
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Hey guys, you've had the pack for a few days. Any feedback on the bots? Besides the ones already mentioned.
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The bot difficulty is pretty intense one bot that i really like is infra he is pretty hard to beat unless you have a lower wedge than him because his bottom is vulnerable
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Not one robot past the first team works. Every time I try to fight one, I get a runtime error, and RA2 shuts off.
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hmm thats normally an issue between connecting the robot to the bindings isnt it? so my guess at some possibilities are
the robots name is different to the one in the bindings ?
the bindings cannot locate the .py
the robot is in the wrong place or team
they are my 3 guesses otherwise...I guess check components, everyone gets so used to Mads smartzones they sometimes forget they dont come with RA2 lol
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Everything works for me. Anyone else have ROBO's problem?
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Everything works for me. Anyone else have ROBO's problem?
Here here.
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Alright, I'll isolate the problem and upload a new one or just a new file if the problem is in the bindings or something.
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https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar)
Replace the old Bindings with this one. See if it fixes the problem.
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YES! Wow, PSYCHO is a lot better that I thought it was.
It beats every single VS! :O
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Yeah, that works now. Thanks Sage (and Inf).
I'll post a full list of some bugs that I've noticed ASAP.
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That one popup on the Elemental team doesn't fire.
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I noticed that to, and i was going to say something but you beat me to it.
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YO!
If you send in teams, make sure you first send a splash of all 6, insides and out. We will look them over and decide whether or not you should send them.
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That means I'll just copy/paste the splashed from my showcase when I PM. XD
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YO!
If you send in teams, make sure you first send a splash of all 6, insides and out. We will look them over and decide whether or not you should send them.
What If they are ones that were already showcased (probably been asked before)?
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IDK if this is still being worked on, but Rolo II is in own team twice: it's own position and in place of one of the HW's.
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Bots that Are going to Change
Rolo II\'s (LW,HW) - Fillers for production delay
:D
Anyway, I don't see what's wrong with Disdain. Unless Sage is referring to the huge instability caused when touched by a wedge.
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Ah, ok.
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Sorry to bump this again, but did anyone else notice the extra 'Team35' esque thing that appears in Team15?
It has SpyGuy, Spin Cycle 2, Kinetic, Bandersnatch, Quell2 and Merciless in it.
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Yep. I just transferred the bots to my RD folder and replaced Team35 with my team submission.
I'm thinking about rebuilding some bots for this and SCv4, but I have to prioritize the BBEANS5 pages first.
But I'm still in China >.<
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Hey Sage (or Inf) should I send you my team again? I am pretty sure I sent it a while ago but I could be wrong. I have it all ready though besides AI.
posted this a while ago
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70199TeAMDuck.jpg)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70199TeAMDuck.jpg (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70199TeAMDuck.jpg)
the only one I am not confident about is the lightweight with icypicks.
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HOPEFULLY inf can get off his lazy ass and come back to the forum. He has all the files and such, and it's his pack. I just help out a little.
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im kinda boned right now if i need to build any bots. my computer with ra2 pretty much imploded and the only reason im on a computer right now is because my brother came home from college and imm using his laptop.
and he wont let me instal ra2 on it :(
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If Inf does come back and finish this then I wouldn't mind sending in a team.
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Sorry to hear about your comp Scrap.
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Few days ago i was thinking maybe inf or sage will create AI pack one day... and here we go accidentally found a topic! I'll try to submit My Team or two if i have enough time!
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Ahmm... Inf, the download link in the first post is broken, may I have somehow the latest version of this?
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https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,10649.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,10649.0.html)