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Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 26, 2008, 06:23:15 AM
Hi all
Im currently working on a new Roaming Robots AI-Pack.
Im having some trouble with Whirlpool.
1-How do you make a robot as flat as possible (I know about the slider on the side, but i want him to be flatter)
2-He's in at middleweight, and i noticed that the stock SaberTooth is a middleweight, but he is acctuatly a heavyweight!
How do you make a robot lighter with out getting rid of components. (I want him to be lightweight)
Thanks all!
Matt
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Condor33 on October 26, 2008, 07:10:10 AM
You know how if you push the slider down as far as it can go, and then keep pulling, the top of the robot vibrates? Well, the faster you pull down the harder it vibrates, except there's a limit to how fast you can go. However, you can use this to kind of "bounce" your chassis to be even flatter.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Urjak on October 26, 2008, 10:29:09 AM
If you put the slider at the very top, then press the VERY bottom, the slider will go pretty much as low as it can get.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Clickbeetle on October 26, 2008, 03:06:25 PM
Or you can do it how I made Tornado Mer and Ruiner ultra-flat in DSL.

Open up the .bot file in Notepad++ or some sort of hex editor (XVI32 is another one).

Right after the name is "Class: x" where x=0 (LW), 1 (MW), 2 (HW), or 19658784 (None).  That's easy enough to change to make your bot a different weight class.

Changing the height is a bit trickier.  It's easiest if you first make the bot as flat as possible in the bot lab (just click the bottommost pixel of the height slider).  If you do that, then the height of the bot SHOULD be 0.338182.  If it is, then you can just do a Find/Replace and replace all instances of "0.338182" with "0.25" or whatever you want the new height to be.

Note that you can't do this in regular Notepad.  If you do, it will corrupt the .bot file and it won't work anymore.  You need a hex editor to edit the file safely.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 27, 2008, 03:27:30 PM
I will try that, when my computer virus is fixed.
All of my programmes have been wiped off, even my internet.
On my dads Laptop.
Warning to you all, on Hamachi, beware of hahaha, he gave me a virus.
Just wanring you all.
Now i know why when i tried to edit one of my old robots bot files to lower the weight, everything went weird!
When i lower the weight, will my bot be faster?
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 27, 2008, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: WhamettNuht;18961
When i lower the weight, will my bot be faster?

Yes, and this is common sense.

No, seriously, even a n00b (that you aren't) won't dare to ask that

EDIT: and i proved it with Newton's 2nd law.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: System32 on October 27, 2008, 03:45:50 PM
Yes, but at the cost of health.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 27, 2008, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: System32;18964
Yes, but at the cost of health.


Yep. The smaller the chassis, the weaker it is.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 27, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
Wham, some more detail. Use Notepad++. Make BU.
 
If your bot is 'square', then it will look like this at the beginning of the bot file (All of this is the display mesh [around line 20]):
4
600 400
600 600
400 600
400 400
4
600 400
600 600
400 600
400 400
0.138182 12
true
 
It describes 2 sets of 4 vertices (top and bottom), and the location of each vertex.
The 0.138182 is the display height.
 
So,
1. Copy this number.
2. Put the cursor back above this section in the bot file.
3. Choose 'Replace' under the Search menu.
4. Paste in this number.
5. Type in the new number (height) you want it changed to.
6. Replace all (as CB said).
7. Save file.
 
Then Import the moded bot back into the workshop. Open and wala!
Shrimp.bot.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 27, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
Im not a n00b!
I was just wondering, thats all.
And what if my robot has more than 4 sides?
And, by the way, i have a habit of correcting people generally, its Voi-La, not wala (Sorry, had to get that out of my system!)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 27, 2008, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: WhamettNuht;18988
And what if my robot has more than 4 sides?
Here Wham, this is a round bot with 15 vertices(points). Since you're not a noob you can figure out the right number, and then repeat the process described above. (Hint: Look right above the "true".)
15
0 500
44 296
166 128
346 24
553 2
751 66
905 206
990 396
990 603
905 793
750 933
553 997
346 975
166 871
44 703
15
0 500
44 296
166 128
346 24
553 2
751 66
905 206
990 396
990 603
905 793
750 933
553 997
346 975
166 871
44 703
0.6 56
true
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Quote from: WhamettNuht;18988
And, by the way, i have a habit of correcting people generally, its Voi-La, not wala
[/COLOR][/COLOR]It depends where your from, Wham.:ermm: ...I happen to know a few languages myself.
 
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Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 28, 2008, 04:36:35 AM
Orly?
Im just learning the 2, French at school, and Portuguise in my spare time!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 28, 2008, 05:34:18 AM
For being precise it's Voilà. If i remember well, English doesn't use stresses like we have (é,è,à...)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 28, 2008, 08:55:06 AM
Wham, I'm not a 'flamer' per say. But it seems your more interested in correcting american slang, than the coding I'm trying to help you with. So you can do it yourself. Most others here are more prone to appreciate the help.
 
 
FYI: I happen to know some French, as some here can attest; including much of Latin from which voir is derived (videre). Oh my, did you notice; the French changed the word from the correct Latin. Well words change as they spread to different cultures (etymology). But as long as you relieved yourself and 'got it out of your system', then I hope you feel better. And while your looking up original root words and meanings,you might check the definition of a Freudian term "anal-retentive", where sometimes we focus on one-little-thing while missing the over-all picture.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: ACAMS on October 28, 2008, 09:10:29 AM
I know french......I used to watch Pepé Le Pew all the time.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 28, 2008, 10:23:20 AM
Quote from: ACAMS;19020
I know french......I used to watch Pepé Le Pew all the time.


ORLY?

Show us then:-D
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: ACAMS on October 28, 2008, 10:31:52 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/Pics/pepe.jpg)
 
 
(https://gametechmods.com/Pics/pepe-le-pew.jpg)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 28, 2008, 10:41:52 AM
C'est tout?

(is that all?)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Serge on October 28, 2008, 10:42:04 AM
It's:

Voilà.

Period.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Serge on October 28, 2008, 10:43:20 AM
Quote from: Naryar;19029
C'est tout?

(is that all?)


Oui, c'est tout. T'es francais?
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 28, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: Serge;19032
Oui, c'est tout. T'es francais?


C'est écrit dans mon profil. Enfin, presque.

(Written in my profile. Nearly)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Serge on October 28, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: Naryar;19034
C'est écrit dans mon profil. Enfin, presque.

(Written in my profile. Nearly)


Ah oui, c'est vrai, d esole, je ne paye pas attention a ca normalement. Bon, content de voir un francais sur les forums. Moim-meme je suis seulement francophone.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Sage on October 28, 2008, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: Serge;19066
Ah oui, c'est vrai, d esole, je ne paye pas attention a ca normalement. Bon, content de voir un francais sur les forums. Moim-meme je suis seulement francophone.

i understood almost half of that. im taking french in my school.

c'est difficile... mais c'est pas mal. (hope i said that right)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 28, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
Vous êtes le spamming, mais je suis trop. Je déteste les spammeurs.
Pardon mon redneck français. But gosh. il semble bizarre que with all of the expletives used, the lousy spelling (see post#1 above), the crippled grammer and syntax, and the butchered internet vocab ("u r cul"), that I could use a single american 'slang' word. Hehe. NP.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 28, 2008, 04:16:58 PM
@Sage: Oui c'est bon. apprendre le francais à l'école. c'est bien.
d'ailleurs je te traduis en entier le dernier post de Serge "Oh yes, that's right, sorry, i generally don't pay attention to that. Well, happy to see a french in the forums. I just speak french."

@Serge: finalement il y a plus de francophones que ca sur le forum...

@Mad: Je préfère que tu parles en anglais parce qu'en francais je ne comprends rien.

EDIT: Philetbabe est francais aussi.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Somebody on October 28, 2008, 04:36:54 PM
hi

Edit: how could you get a virus from hamachi. Would it be an infected bot or something?
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 28, 2008, 04:37:30 PM
Bonjour à tous.
Je ne suis pas plus intéressé à corriger que le codage, madiaba.
Anway, grâce à la codification, je vais aller à une fois que ce virus a été fixé, mais vous savez déjà que sur!
D'autre part, il serait peut-être un certain temps, afin dont s'attendre à beaucoup de moi pour la semaine à venir, ok?
Si vous venez de comprendre ce que j'ai tapé, vous pouvez soit traduit l'aide de Google traducteur, ou vous vous débrouillez bien français!
Impresive, eh?
Olá todos.
Im não mais interessados em corrigir do que a codificação, madiaba.
Anway, graças à codificação, vou-me que, uma vez que esta ronda de vírus como foi fixada, mas que você sabe sobre isso já!
Por outro lado pode ser um tempo, portanto, dont esperam muito de mim para a próxima semana ou para isso, ok?
Se você só compreendi o que eu digitei, você quer traduzir usando tradutor do google, ou você é realmente bom em Português!
And thats the Portuguese side of me.
Remember kids, education is the worth-while!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 28, 2008, 04:38:27 PM
Oh, salute somebody!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 28, 2008, 05:01:53 PM
Yes, I know some Portuguese too, Wham. But neither French nor Portuguese are my fortes. As I mentioned I'm a redneck in these languages, so as the 3 great American sages Larry, Moe and Curly would say: "I moider them sometimes" (slang!). Hehe.
Ok, we're on the same page. Let me know if you get stuck.
And oh yea, you might render your english "acctuatly" spelled correctly.
 
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Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Somebody on October 28, 2008, 07:31:00 PM
So, how would you get a virus from hamachi.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: SpyGuy on October 28, 2008, 10:28:20 PM
Cybersex without wrapping his mouse ......... no, wait ............

Could y'all go back to speaking English so those of us who aren't multi-lingual can understand what the F--K you're saying, please?  And maybe it's just me, but wasn't this thread supposed to be about creating flat bots and the coding that supposedly makes them that way, and not arguements in French and Portugese?
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 04:50:51 AM
Bonjour, oh sorry!
Some- Probably via a robot, he only used Beta and the middle weight from spike heads, the flipper.
Or, because your online, it blocks off your security leaving you open for attack.
BE VERY CAREFULL GUYS!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: goose on October 29, 2008, 07:34:05 AM
Moral of this thread: When wham makes a thread he just wants an excuse to talk in french, not to get answers to his questions.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 07:43:32 AM
NOT TRUE!
Things just got a bit out of hand, thats all!
I want the answers, yes, but its ok to have a bit of fun aswelll.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 07:52:22 AM
Can someone help me with downloading Notepad++?
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 29, 2008, 07:59:27 AM
Google is your friend.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 08:05:11 AM
???
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 29, 2008, 08:07:35 AM
I agree, Goose; and thanks. That's what I was observing, but wasn't sure, so gave Wham the benefit of the doubt. And now he's admitted it himself:
 
Quote from: WhamettNuht;19128
NOT TRUE!
Things just got a bit out of hand, thats all!
In case you didn't notice, there are no "things" here, only people to "get out of hand"; which in this case here happens to be you, and purposely at that...
 
I want the answers, yes, but its ok to have a bit of fun aswelll.
I am probably more tolerant than some other Admins here, Wham. But seeing others as objects to 'have fun'(play) with speaks, in a universal language, volumes about you. If you can't figure this out, and do it again, then you will see the other side of things, then maybe that will help you...

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Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 08:09:16 AM
I DIDNT SAY THAT, SOMEONE EDITED THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 08:10:01 AM
Oh, sorry, thats your saying.
Well, wrong!
Ha!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 08:10:37 AM
Please, can someone tell me how to get Notepad++!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 29, 2008, 08:43:51 AM
Wham you just triple posted.

Just Google it damn it! It's easy as heck, you'll get a free download and a very useful program that i'm using for AI-ing too.

BTW Goose just took you in his aim, so you better pay attention now. (he changed your personal title)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Gigafrost on October 29, 2008, 08:47:53 AM
Yeah wham... Simply use the edit button when you want to change or add to a post.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 08:51:19 AM
Alright, alright!
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Madiaba on October 29, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: Naryar;19140
Wham you just triple posted.
Just Google it damn it! It's easy as heck, you'll get a free download and a very useful program that i'm using for AI-ing too.
BTW Goose just took you in his aim, so you better pay attention now. (he changed your personal title)
Quote from: WhamettNuht;19144
Alright, alright!
[/COLOR]
 
It wasn't Goose.
It's just too bad peope need leashes,... because they can't control themselves. *Haven't we talked about this somewhere before???*
 
 
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Oh yea. The DP-ing isn'tgood either, Wham.
 
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Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: Naryar on October 29, 2008, 12:03:37 PM
ZOMG it was you !!1!one!

I won't classify Wham in "bad people" category, and i don't even see why you guys say he is playing with people.

The thread went international because I and Serge corrected your "Wala" in "Voilà". We began to speak French and Wham went with Portuguese too.

He's just showing (off?) his portuguese skills, and as far as i've seen is not a manipulator that just posted in portuguese for playing with people.
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: WhamettNuht on October 29, 2008, 12:30:30 PM
*sniff* (:*-)
Title: Flat robots and changing weight...
Post by: SpyGuy on October 30, 2008, 10:39:19 PM
*rolls up his sleeves and wades in, starts banging heads together and dropping unconscious bodies into heaps on the floor*

All right, you clowns, knock it off .......

Wham, the moderators here are unusually tolerant for the amount of stuff they have to put up with (especially from people like me, which I won't go into ...), but you are really pushing it here.  I'd suggest backing off and cooling it some before they decide to just ban your ass, okay?  And don't try using me as an example of "bad behavior" - I was on this forum and the original RA2 site long before you ever showed up, and they already KNOW I'm a pain in the posterior ......