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Robot Arena => Modifications => Topic started by: Shield on June 12, 2014, 10:32:43 AM

Title: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 12, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
idk whether this belongs in technical support or whatevs

but i noticed that DSL 2.1, as perfect as it is, could use a bit of touch up considering Click released a new, better Battlebox and a new Flipper AI, and the firestorm replica is an absolute havok bomb due to the flipper being a bit too light (21 KG if I'm not mistaken)

so, i was going to ask if anyone has made a new better version, or if I'm allowed to do it myself (Fix Firestorm's havok problem, replace the battlebox, switch all the flipper Ai's with the new one maybe even add on a couple of replicas idk)

EDIT: Done.

Link for DSL 2.1.1: http://www.mediafire.com/download/xgivmicgtvdhje6/DSL+2.1.1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download/xgivmicgtvdhje6/DSL+2.1.1.rar)
Title: Re: DSL 2.1 minor fixes
Post by: Thyrus on June 12, 2014, 10:50:50 AM
also there has been the NarmorBeGone thingy. I thought about this too a while ago. there should be some kind of dsl 2.2 with some things fixed like shield mentioned. GoldenFox made an improved Chaos 2  that actually was powerfull like the real one IIRC
Title: Re: DSL 2.1 minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 12, 2014, 11:01:08 AM
also there has been the NarmorBeGone thingy. I thought about this too a while ago. there should be some kind of dsl 2.2 with some things fixed like shield mentioned. GoldenFox made an improved Chaos 2  that actually was powerfull like the real one IIRC

I'll get on those two things later.

For now tho, good news. I have at least managed to stop Firestorm's havok parade while still having it at MW. Which I guess is good. I have yet to test the Flipper AI.

Also, I plan on adding on a couple of teams, here are the themes I'm going for:

-Pure Flipper team (Doesn't matter if it's LW, MW or HW, long as it's a IRL flipper it's accepted)
-Pure UHW team (idk why probably gonna crash or at least cause a lot of people's PC's to lag but UHW needs more love)

EDIT: Also, if anyone can give me the link to the new Battlebox that'd be great. And if anyone has the aforementioned updated Chaos 2 that'd be swell.
Title: Re: DSL 2.1 minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 12, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
DP

Clip of A functional, not havoking Firestorm with Click's new AI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GjeWfYLDwg&feature=youtu.be# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GjeWfYLDwg&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 12, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
had too much free time, and i wanted to contribute. also i'd like to combine this thread with the previous one if any admin/staff are reading this Thanks Trov.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/xgivmicgtvdhje6/DSL_2.2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download/xgivmicgtvdhje6/DSL_2.2.rar)

Change Log
-Fixed most of the Flipper's AI
-Fixed Firestorm's havoking issue
-Added UHW and SHW anti ballasts
-Added BBEANS arenas and Containment Cube
-Added Trov's Action cam
-Added Trov's arena randomiser thing
-Added separate Firestorm Flippers
-Rebuilt XTRA bots
-Narmorbegone installed

To Do
-Fix AI of: Wheely Big Cheese, Vladiator, Vlad The Impaler, CRITICAL EMERGENCY, Insanity unfixable i can't even

Alrighty, I'm finished. DSL 2.1.1 is done. Been fun working on it.

if there's anything wrong (Which there probably will be) post here, comments here, thoughts here.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Natster-104 on June 12, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
It's probably been said many a time, but whats narmour and narmour be gone?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 12, 2014, 02:49:49 PM
It's probably been said many a time, but whats narmour and narmour be gone?

naryar's solution to not losing a thing that naryar did where bots could be virtually unstoppable

Quote
A DSL equivalant of caster armor, Narmor takes advantage of the odd collision mesh of the skirt hinge component. It involves attaching a series of skirt hinges along a robot's front side and angling them to create a near-impenetrable and largely invisible shield. The advantages over caster armor are, it is much, much lighter, covers more area, and can be attached to slopes easily. The disadvantages are mainly getting trashed by other members (due to its unrealistic characteristics), but also wide wedges tend to get stuck between 2 skirt hinges (somehow like caster armor but worse)
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Natster-104 on June 12, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
Ahhhh I see
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Naryar on June 13, 2014, 03:14:29 AM
lol, virtually unstoppable ? it's just a variant of caster armor.

i really wonder why everyone banned it even though it has quite a bit of drawbacks.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Trovaner on June 13, 2014, 12:36:41 PM
also i'd like to combine this thread with the previous one if any admin/staff are reading this
Which DSL improvements thread are you referring to?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 13, 2014, 04:33:39 PM
also i'd like to combine this thread with the previous one if any admin/staff are reading this
Which DSL improvements thread are you referring to?

It's in modification ideas. Titled DSL 2.1 fixes if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 13, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
I suggest adding the Containment Cube arena and Trov's Action Cam.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 13, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
I suggest adding the Containment Cube arena and Trov's Action Cam.

Will do,

Also, anyone know where the BBEANS arena's are?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 13, 2014, 06:11:09 PM
I suggest adding the Containment Cube arena and Trov's Action Cam.

Will do,

Also, anyone know where the BBEANS arena's are?

Aren't they already in DSL 2.1?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 13, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
I suggest adding the Containment Cube arena and Trov's Action Cam.

Will do,

Also, anyone know where the BBEANS arena's are?

Aren't they already in DSL 2.1?

Not for me.

Also, what about other arena's? (Epic Showdown, infinity, electric arena 2 etc)
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 13, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
I suggest adding the Containment Cube arena and Trov's Action Cam.

Will do,

Also, anyone know where the BBEANS arena's are?

Aren't they already in DSL 2.1?

Not for me.

Also, what about other arena's? (Epic Showdown, infinity, electric arena 2 etc)

I wouldn't go overboard with arenas. I just suggested Containment Cube because it seems to be a pretty popular arena with tournament hosts.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 13, 2014, 06:20:14 PM
I suggest adding the Containment Cube arena and Trov's Action Cam.

Will do,

Also, anyone know where the BBEANS arena's are?

Aren't they already in DSL 2.1?

Not for me.

Also, what about other arena's? (Epic Showdown, infinity, electric arena 2 etc)

I wouldn't go overboard with arenas. I just suggested Containment Cube because it seems to be a pretty popular arena with tournament hosts.

I know. A couple of these arenas sound pretty cool though.

Also, regarding tourneys, do we use this version when I'm done with it or....?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Gazea2 on June 13, 2014, 06:21:22 PM
It shouldn't matter - you're not balancing components.
Side note: did the arena compilation ever get released?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 13, 2014, 06:22:19 PM
It shouldn't matter - you're not balancing components.
Side note: did the arena compilation ever get released?

The in game firestorm flipper is now 23 KG's instead of 10.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Mecha on June 13, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
Also, anyone know where the BBEANS arena's are?
http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/robotarena.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/robotarena.htm)

Some of the other arenas you mentioned are also in the link.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 13, 2014, 06:29:54 PM
It shouldn't matter - you're not balancing components.
Side note: did the arena compilation ever get released?

The in game firestorm flipper is now 23 KG's instead of 10.

That one should be hidden and the old one kept to build with.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 13, 2014, 06:58:31 PM
I already edited the old one.

also, i'm having trouble with the BBEANS 2 arena. It crashes and shtuff
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Gazea2 on June 13, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
You can copy the old one from another copy of DSL and just change the file names of the new one? Doesn't take too much work :P
When does it crash/what happens?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 14, 2014, 12:27:13 AM
You can copy the old one from another copy of DSL and just change the file names of the new one? Doesn't take too much work :P
When does it crash/what happens?

The issue is that the BBEANS2 arena has the same file name as the original bbeans arena, so i had to change it.

i tried editing the py file, but it still crashes.

it happens when i select it and start a match, the screen goes black and it doesn't crash immediately, the cursor is still there and i can move it, but if i press esc it crashes
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Clickbeetle on June 14, 2014, 02:23:09 AM
The issue is that the BBEANS2 arena has the same file name as the original bbeans arena, so i had to change it.

They share a folder, but the actual files don't conflict.  When installing the BBEANS V2 arena, just tell it to overwrite the bbeans folder.  Both should work then.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 14, 2014, 02:36:55 AM
The issue is that the BBEANS2 arena has the same file name as the original bbeans arena, so i had to change it.

They share a folder, but the actual files don't conflict.  When installing the BBEANS V2 arena, just tell it to overwrite the bbeans folder.  Both should work then.

Ah, thanks Click.

Also, rebuilt the XTRA bots.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/98185Robot Arena 2 2014-06-14 15-29-22-901.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80537Robot Arena 2 2014-06-14 15-36-23-527.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23192Robot Arena 2 2014-06-14 15-28-56-866.jpg)

EDIT: Anyone know where I can get Narmorbegone?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Wacky Bob on June 14, 2014, 03:48:20 PM
This should work (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/9500skirts.rar)
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: RedAce on June 14, 2014, 06:49:39 PM
Interesting expansion pack for DSL 2.1. It's nice of you to fix some of the small bugs that it had years ago.

The XTRA bots don't look bad. Barbershop Chop looks like your MW BB6 entry Hurricane.

Edit: Would it be a bad idea to place the MOE motor in the txt file with the Perms and the Judge Burst in the BSG txt file for convenience?
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 14, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Interesting expansion pack for DSL 2.1. It's nice of you to fix some of the small bugs that it had years ago.

The XTRA bots don't look bad. Barbershop Chop looks like your MW BB6 entry Hurricane.

Just realized that  :dumb)
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Mecha on June 14, 2014, 07:06:40 PM
They look nice. good job.  :thumbup
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 14, 2014, 07:46:11 PM
Interesting expansion pack for DSL 2.1. It's nice of you to fix some of the small bugs that it had years ago.

The XTRA bots don't look bad. Barbershop Chop looks like your MW BB6 entry Hurricane.

Edit: Would it be a bad idea to place the MOE motor in the txt file with the Perms and the Judge Burst in the BSG txt file for convenience?

Hmm, We could. It'll take me some time to figure out but I can manage

I can't find the parts py files or folders they're just gone
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: 090901 on June 14, 2014, 08:26:10 PM
Would it be a bad idea to place the MOE motor in the txt file with the Perms and the Judge Burst in the BSG txt file for convenience?
Bots built with those parts would not work in a normal version of DSL 2.1 then.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Trovaner on June 14, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
Not to be rude but please ask before adding other members' mods. I don't mind you using the arena randomizer or original action cam but my concern is that some members may not appreciate the use of their work without their consent (venko for example didn't like tournament hosts putting his bots in AI packs).
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 14, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Not to be rude but please ask before adding other members' mods. I don't mind you using the arena randomizer or original action cam but my concern is that some members may not appreciate the use of their work without their consent (venko for example didn't like tournament hosts putting his bots in AI packs).

Oops.

EDIT: All of the stuff I put in were all made for public use, unless Click has a problem with me editing and or altering DSL, I can't remember using anything I wasn't supposed to. But regardless I've sent Click a PM asking if it's okay.
Title: Re: DSL 2.12/ DSL 2.1 AI/minor fixes
Post by: Shield on June 15, 2014, 02:10:51 AM
DSL 2.1.1 is done. Have fun with a game that is essentially almost unchanged save for one extra component and a couple patches. It was fun working on it.