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Robot Arena => Modifications => Topic started by: System32 on November 10, 2009, 10:54:00 AM
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I've noticed that people have a hard time stacking and such, so I wondered, Would you guys like to have a pack of chassi with stacked items such as batteries, or would it be considered cheap?
I mean, it would help out newbies first hand, it would bost productivity and may be useful to some of the other builders like Nary, Pwn and Red (Who has trouble stacking)
The idea is an assortment of chassi with the batteries attached. The chassi should have plenty of space for motors and extenders, and the occasional AAM edit(DSL only).
The chassi are not GENERIC. They all with have Stacking or AAM. Control boards stacked into the batteries, Double and triple black stacks and other things. Even the occasional extender. Also, most of the chassi must be multi purpose. No VS only or Popup specific chassis, however I may allow one or 2 to slip in if needed.
would you like it?
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A REAL builder has to stack, and restack, sometimes 25-30 times (or more) before it is right, so I would not find it useful.
And AAMed chassis should NOT be released because of cheating in tournaments with it.
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Hmm... I'd actually be fine either way. I'm.. experimenting.
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I am sure some LEGAL BUILT chassis's would be appreciated, but they should not be AAMed or even bot file edited lower, or alter the chassis.
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I see you like UNDERLINE, CAPS AND BOLD.
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I see you like UNDERLINE, CAPS AND BOLD.
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9320/fukyeahra2.png)
Huh
HUH
Probably not that laughable.
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I think I made a mistake on the bot file one. I mean chassi that are lowered like some of Naryar's and some ones with the big 6TWMRs in it.
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Against this 100%. I still, much like the AAM discussion, see stacking batteries as a writ of passage, something that all builders have to learn at some point in their building career.
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This is not open for debate. NO
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I see you like UNDERLINE, CAPS AND BOLD.
No, I don't....but sometimes I MUST do it to get the point across to certain knucleheads on this forum.
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Pwnator is the guy who like stacks 4 blacks and 2 blacks an CBs. He needs no help stacking (that is, if he isn't lying about AAM... :D)
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A rites of passage for stacking? Haha... you guys must be clueless how easy it'd be to fake it.
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I'm against this. People need to learn how to stack on their own.
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S32 what ever happened to Catagore ? I was wondering about that the other day ?
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I don't like that idea
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We could have gotten the message without that caps and language, Duck. A simple vote and comment would have sufficed quite nicely.
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I don't really like it, it'll inevitalby lead to a bunch of unintentioanly samey designs, And I'm sure there'd be a strong uprising against using such things in BOTM or certain torunies,
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We could have gotten the message without that caps and language, Duck. A simple vote and comment would have sufficed quite nicely.
sorry I am just strongly against the idea
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Pwnator is the guy who like stacks 4 blacks and 2 blacks an CBs. He needs no help stacking (that is, if he isn't lying about AAM... :D)
I can't stack 4 blacks. :O
Or at least I don't remember doing it. I found stacking two blacks easy. I just spend more of the time with the CB/third black. :D
But yeah, they should know learn to be patient enough when stacking. But AAM could always be taught if it's for DSL realistic purposes.
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I am for this idea.
I hate spending 30 minutes just to stack 2 damn blacks.
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Dammit I voted for the wrong thing.
I hate this idea with a burning passion as bright as the sun. BUILD YOUR OWN BOTS!
I don't really hate it that much I just wanted to use that expression that I heard. Although I do think that you should have to build your own bots because this would start an influx of noobs being able to build a strong bot when they shouldn't be able too.
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Can't we just make a 'pre-stacked' black or something, and make it a legal component in stock? Like just the same batteries with double the weight/power
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Can't we just make a 'pre-stacked' black or something, and make it a legal component in stock? Like just the same batteries with double the weight/power
Depends if Click wants to give up one of his BBEANS prizes. (Yeeep)
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Then people would be stacking the stacked components, and we would have to make a 4x black, etc..
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If people do eventually start using pre-stacked chassis crap, I think I'll forget about RA2, it will lose the hard work making a bot. Then everyone will be able to make good bots, I don't like that, you gotta work to make good bots! NOT use starters from other builders. That is LAME! :angry:
You guys are becoming little babies. I can't believe it Naryar, how can you support this retarded idea?
S32: Why did you have to make this thread? Are you just trying to wreck this game to pieces??? :pissd:
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I disagree, Duck. Nice idea, S-32 to poll this. Always good to get a consensus.
My input; I tend to agree that one should do it one's self and 'build your own bot'. Here, for those who need it:
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Since you can already take any bot from any AI Pack and use its chassis, this isn't going to give noobs anything they couldn't already get. So it is ridiculous to think this will change things forever in a horrid way.
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I have to agree there, its easy for people just to take AI robots from packs with the double stacked batteries
The problem I can see with this is people becoming to reliant on the chassis pack and having a heap of robots that are much the same
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Joe: That's why I have several counter measures.
Chassis space. There will be plenty of space left in the pack, so 36 HS, etc will have to be made by hand. The pack is purely made as a starter kit to those who are still learning and those who haven't had the good fortune to have such a pack that can stack so easy. (No, sage, I've listened to all your advice, spent 6 hours, changed the angles a billion times and used more chassis than naryar has used Razors, and I still can't stack anything bigger than an anchor.)
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49329untitled1.PNG)
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SD, your highly intellectual reply has won me over, this pack shall not be created!
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I have an idea for you S32 :-D
what ever happened to Catagore ?
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I think it'd help for those who wish to start out with RA2, and then they may look at robots that compete well to see what they want to build. Either way, bots that are already up for download can be easily modified. I admit that I've studied some of the bots and why they are built this way. Heck, I even have a few for people to study in the AI Pack (such as SCRAMJET and PlayMaker, which I forgot about).
For those who don't agree. You have valid points, but it's not going to help if other robots can be downloaded and redesigned. That alone is also a tool to learn, but also a tool to just have a bot built easily. It can be done already. Having a chassis pack wouldn't do much more harm than already done with downloaded bots that are built with great power and performance.
If a chassis pack is to be made, maybe it would help to have them be less effective than the better competing chassis. It would also help to just have the control unit and the drive train set-up so that people don't have to take time to line up the wheels. However, they will still fall prey to the better competing designs due to their efficient amount of well used space.
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I even have a few for people to study in the AI Pack (such as SCRAMJET and PlayMaker, which I forgot about).
:biggrin: another fan of my other mod CCAI
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I was going to type this yesterday... but it seemed lame at the time. However, now that I have thought about it some more I will toss the idea out there.
How about tournament hosts offering awesome stacked chassis' as prizes for tournaments? I, honestly, would think that would be a great prize for winning. To get a trim chassis with 3 stacked blacks & a CB or something... all primed and ready to make an awesome HSer or something. I dunno... Just a thought.
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What ever happened to CataGORE?
Afterthe components didn't work (as in, when added did squat), I gave up. Not removed, just suspended while I work on other things.