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Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 01, 2009, 10:04:57 AM
What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: JoeBlo on August 01, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
Madiaba set mine up with..

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/setupd.png)

(except the video capture key) Thanks again Mad,
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: RedSawn on August 01, 2009, 11:12:58 AM
I think Fraps sucks. I don't like dropping to 5 FPS at the push of a button.

So I use Growler. No mess, no fuss, no slowdown unless your game is running slow anyway.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Reier on August 01, 2009, 11:15:58 AM
And that is what? Free?
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: RedSawn on August 01, 2009, 11:20:48 AM
Nah, not free.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: cephalopod on August 01, 2009, 11:21:42 AM
Just had a look at the site, doesn't look free to me

EDIT: Red beat me to it. Slooow typing.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: russian roulette on August 01, 2009, 11:50:51 AM
Quote from: RedlineM203;56308
I think Fraps sucks. I don't like dropping to 5 FPS at the push of a button.

So I use Growler. No mess, no fuss, no slowdown unless your game is running slow anyway.


Go half size then there is no lag.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: RedSawn on August 01, 2009, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: russian roulette;56319
Go half size then there is no lag.


Back when I used it, I did whatever that was possible to increase FPS.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Reier on August 01, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: russian roulette;56319
Go half size then there is no lag.


You kidding?!?
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: DuckRA2 on August 01, 2009, 12:25:58 PM
LRA2, can't figure out anything on your own?
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: russian roulette on August 01, 2009, 12:45:22 PM
Well it makes it better. Plus if you want your videos to look non laggy using fraps. After you record use windows movie maker and post your video in the time line and in the video effects select the 2 times faster and the video will look flawless.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Reier on August 01, 2009, 12:57:34 PM
That's what I do for RRR. 1 problem: if you have a microphone, the sound will sound like chipmunks when you're done.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: System32 on August 01, 2009, 01:05:33 PM
Fraps never worked for me.

After 5 seconds It crashed or stopped recording.

Hate it. Even hypercam works more than that trash.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Madiaba on August 01, 2009, 09:43:49 PM
Joe, that would take an ultra-nice comp to crunch all of that info at those settings. I'm impressed...
 
Pt. There is no 'right' parameters for everyone, because everyone has different comps with different processors, memory, HDD, CDD, apps running in background, etc... As has been mentioned, just use the max settings you can without significant lag.
 
Notes: The resolution suffers a bit on "Half-Size", so I like "Full-Size". Lower frame rates seem to effect quality less than "Half-Size", on my comp set-up.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: JoeBlo on August 01, 2009, 09:46:57 PM
mad.. im pretty sure thats how it was when I installed it ???.. but yeah it handles it fine except for a few matches that were going to lag anyway.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Clickbeetle on August 01, 2009, 11:18:55 PM
The maximum frame rate perceivable by the human eye is about 30 FPS, so there is absolutely no reason to use anything higher, unless you're inserting subliminal messages to make anyone watching your video mysteriously want popcorn or something.

Also, Windows Movie Maker always compresses the video to 30 FPS when you save it anyway.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: JoeBlo on August 01, 2009, 11:41:25 PM
thats interesting ? but I found SHW's in the robot wars arena knocks 30 FPS to about 5-10 ? but it manages to hold about 30 FPS average on 60
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Clickbeetle on August 01, 2009, 11:52:35 PM
!  I'll have to try that... I've never recorded at 60 FPS because I just assumed it would be laggier.  If I could consistently get 30 FPS, that would be great.  Most fights I record are around 20-25.

Although, I notice your Clash Cubes videos always have at least some lag.  In theory, at 30 FPS there should be 0 lag...  unless, since you're recording at 60 FPS, 30 is half speed?  In which case you get more lag than recording at 30.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: JoeBlo on August 01, 2009, 11:56:52 PM
it gets about 30 but drops to about 15-20 for robots with a weapons overload (bladewave and grindhouse was a good example) but there have been more lagless videos then laggy ones
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Madiaba on August 02, 2009, 12:21:40 AM
Almost all of mine are recorded with FRAPS set at 25 fps. Never looked choppy.
I only alter the size; starting with full size for better resolution, and if lag then half size.
 
And FRAPS works very well on my comp(s). No issues manifested for me.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: JoeBlo on August 02, 2009, 12:57:20 AM
my RA2 had a crash yesterday and then would no longer display FRAPS so I reinstalled it at that was the settings ? (aside from the input button) is that not how you have yours mad ?

Edit: Click I just used those settings I posted before and filmed the latest clash cubes match, averaged 30 FPS the lowest it got was about 26 FPS and highest it got was 35 FPS.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 02, 2009, 02:19:13 AM
I don't think this worked but here is a test.
https://gametechmods.com/?do=ra2ube&ACT=video&id=test
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: RedSawn on August 02, 2009, 03:08:39 AM
Quote from: life robot arena2;56552
I don't think this worked but here is a test.
https://gametechmods.com/?do=ra2ube&ACT=video&id=test


Nothing. It seems.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 02, 2009, 03:10:20 AM
Must be because i merged two into 1
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: RedSawn on August 02, 2009, 03:22:43 AM
You mean videos?
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 02, 2009, 03:26:57 AM
yes.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: RedSawn on August 02, 2009, 03:34:44 AM
Well, it can be done. BBEANS has an intro (1 scene), bot introductions (2 scenes), round introductions (3 scenes altogether) and the actual rounds (3 scenes). That adds up to 9 "videos"

You was probably doing it wrong. Or maybe RA2ube isn't so good.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Madiaba on August 02, 2009, 09:17:38 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;56547
my RA2 had a crash yesterday and then would no longer display FRAPS so I reinstalled it at that was the settings ? (aside from the input button) is that not how you have yours mad ? ...
Maybe those are the default settings. Really never noticed. My best settings are mentioned above.^
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Serge on August 03, 2009, 06:37:19 AM
I think 29.97 FPS is the best (NTSC framerate).
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Madiaba on August 03, 2009, 08:26:04 AM
Serge, isn't that the NTSC framerate for color tv's. Is there an advantage you know of to use this rate for a comp and monitor? When I saw this rate as an option in FRAPS, I assumed it was for playback on a tv. If you know of one, I'll switch to that framerate.  Let me know, please.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Pwnator on August 03, 2009, 08:35:57 AM
Does RA2 have a framerate cap?

*slightly off-topic*: Shouldn't Serge be more of a Technical Adviser than a Veteran? :P
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: Serge on August 03, 2009, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: Madiaba;56917
Serge, isn't that the NTSC framerate for color tv's. Is there an advantage you know of to use this rate for a comp and monitor? When I saw this rate as an option in FRAPS, I assumed it was for playback on a tv. If you know of one, I'll switch to that framerate.  Let me know, please.


Of course choosing it leads to an advantage when converting the video for playback on a TV, or writing it as a Video DVD. But I think it's the best mainly because it's high enough to make a video non choppy, yet low enough to not make the video too big. That and the TV playback capability made me choose it.

Quote from: Pwnator;56920
Does RA2 have a framerate cap?

*slightly off-topic*: Shouldn't Serge be more of a Technical Adviser than a Veteran? :P


I think it may be capped @ 60fps, but I'd have to check it out using the debug window.

I should be a n00bweight.
Title: What frame rate is best for RA2 matchs for fraps?
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 03, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
Really?O_O.