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Robot Arena => General Support => Topic started by: thestaggy on November 09, 2010, 12:05:14 PM
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Hey folks. I've only recently discovered Robot Arena 2 and it's pretty awesome. Took me all the way back to my memories of Robot Wars as a kid.
Now, I've downloaded a whole host of mods, but I can't get them to work. As an example, I downloaded a pack of real Robot Wars bots but I can't use them. When I go in to the game and go to the workshop area and go to "Import Bot", I can see them there but when I click on one of them to access it, the game quits out and asks to send an error report. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Username clash D:
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I can imagine that might be due to custom components or something. More details on the pack would be lovely so we can help a little more :D
Oh, btw...
WELCOME! (:
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Real helpful Stag.
Hi Staggy, and welcome to GTM!
Which packs specifically did you download?
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Welcome to the boards. =D
It sounds to me like you have either custom, or reskinned components on the bots that don't match up with the components in your copy of RA2. You're going to have to find the pack with the components in them, and merge that with the components folder in your current copy. But you'd want to make a copy of the original Components.cfz file, just in case it goes a bit wrong.
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I've gathered it may be something to do with components, but I'm not the smartest chap when it comes to these things. :confused:
I got the bot pack from RFSHQ.com, it's the "RobotWars AI Pack Bots for Play". Authors are Alphasim, Lu-Tze, RFS, Darkrat, Dummy, Diablo666, Toast and a bunch of others.
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Did you download the RW AI pack?
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Apologies for being vague.
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*feels a whirlwind of confusion brewing*
Welcome, Stag.
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Did you download the RW AI pack?
I can't seem to track it down. The site where I got the Robot Wars bot pack does not have an AI pack that explicitly states if it si for RW or not. There's only a whole bunch of RFS, Starcore and Mr. Chaos AI packs.
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https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/page,page3913.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/page,page3913.html)
It can be found there. Also grab the Wheel fix, AI patch and WBC.
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https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/page,page3913.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/page,page3913.html)
It can be found there. Also grab the Wheel fix, AI patch and WBC.
Ah, thanks a lot mate. Will get in to those and see how it works out.
What other patches/mods would you recommend?
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Are you making backup copies of the games?
Definitely get DSL if you don't have it, and if you're up for a challenge, grab NAR AI for DSL or Starcore 1 for stock.
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Are you making backup copies of the games?
Definitely get DSL if you don't have it, and if you're up for a challenge, grab NAR AI for DSL or Starcore 1 for stock.
Definitely will be backing it up. There's a good chance I'll do something stupid and mess it up.
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You can get a standalone fully-ready-to-play version of the DSL mod in Sage's sig, that's the best way to get hold of DSL.
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HEYHEYHEY! Welcome to the forum. Sorry I can't help on RA2 stuff, but I can try for anything but.
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Sup yo.
You can get both versions of the game from my signature if you ever mess anything up or just want a fresh copy. No need for a disc or re-install.
Hope that helps!
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Just wanted to pop in and say hi!
Have fun with RA2. Too bad GTM isn't that much about this game anymore.
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Don't listen to him. He's rather trolly.
We just keep him around to decode .exes and make (eventual) bot exchanges. ;)
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Don't listen to him, he spams about pikabobs and SnS everywhere
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Dont listen to him, he uh makes cheaty skirthinge armour!
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Okay, I got the Alphasim RobotWars pack working, kind of. I can select the robots but can't get into any arena to actually fight. Game just kicks out. And when I tried to build a bot, a few of the new parts that came with the pack also kick you out if you try and select them. But there is also no readme for idiots like me that come with Alphasim's packs.
Conversely, I downloaded the Starcore V3 pack, that ran fine but one problem; it still only provides you with standard parts but the robots you have to fight are like monstrous beasts with all kinds of weapons going on. One bot, named "Tommy Gun", destroyed me in about 15 seconds flat. That ass kicking was worse than anything "EMERGENCY" ever gave me. Have I done something wrong, AGAIN, or is that just how it is?
Dammit, I'm a retard with this stuff.
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You haven't done anything wrong. Starcore AI bots are hard to beat if you are not very good builder. But I suggest to try your best and Listen good advice. :)
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You haven't done anything wrong. Starcore AI bots are hard to beat if you are not very good builder. But I suggest to try your best and Listen good advice. :)
Good Lord, okay, I thought they'd have at least given you some new parts in the Starcore pack. I'm quite away from having the skill to beat that bunch.
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You are just new, and it's normal. None of us were good when we got the game for the first time. You need to learn how to build good bots and soon you will be able to kick SCv3 ass if your progress is good enough.
Anyways, showcase.
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Yeah, Showcase would be a good start. And you really threw yourself in off the deep end, getting ScV3 straight away. I'd have gone for Version 1.0 if you wanted a bit more of a challenge from the Stock without stretching yourself.
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Yeah, I went v1.0/v2.0/v3.0/v4 Alpha WAY later.
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I got Starcore 3 (skipping 1 and 2) way too early in my robot building career :P
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I got Starcore 3 (skipping 1 and 2) way too early in my robot building career :P
I got Starcore a matter of days after I made Box O' Bolts.
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Welcome!
I started at v3.
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I got Starcore 3 (skipping 1 and 2) way too early in my robot building career :P
I did that, then found DSL and left stock behind, although I probably should give it another go actually, I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
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I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
I don't play stock anymore, but yet don't feel like a wimp for this !
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I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
I don't play stock anymore, but yet don't feel like a wimp for this !
Yes, but you've dedicated yourself to be great at DSL, I simply stopped playing stock because I found it boring.
And, to go against the grain, i'd prefer to be average at both rather than just average at DSL ;)
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I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
I don't play stock anymore, but yet don't feel like a wimp for this !
Yes, but you've dedicated yourself to be great at DSL, I simply stopped playing stock because I found it boring.
And, to go against the grain, i'd prefer to be average at both rather than just average at DSL ;)
I stopped played stock ALSO because it is boring when you have tasted DSL.
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I preferred stock until I found out I was better at DSL :P
havent played stock for a while now
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I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
I don't play stock anymore, but yet don't feel like a wimp for this !
Yes, but you've dedicated yourself to be great at DSL, I simply stopped playing stock because I found it boring.
And, to go against the grain, i'd prefer to be average at both rather than just average at DSL ;)
I stopped played stock ALSO because it is boring when you have tasted DSL.
Yeah, also innovation is a lot more common in DSL, most stock bots just look the same if they're a popup and a mess if they're not.
We'll see though, i'll try to make something interesting in stock, for now, back to helping the new guy.
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I started at Starcore V3 as well. The steep learning curve is great for building. Try cloning some of the designs.
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So Starcore is a lot harder than NAR AI?
Maybe Naryar need to make a superhard version of NAR AI.
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So Starcore is a lot harder than NAR AI?
Maybe Naryar need to make a superhard version of NAR AI.
Give me some time and I might
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So Starcore is a lot harder than NAR AI?
Maybe Naryar need to make a superhard version of NAR AI.
What would that be like?
Custom components or 1337 bots?
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DSL 2.1 for everyone to be happ... oh, wait...
After careful planning, the SUPER UBER version of NAR AI will be DSL 2.1 for your inferior minds not to have to conform to the grandeur of a mod.
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Here's another question that I am assuming may be pretty stupid but I thought it may also be my problem with the RobotWars Pack. When I extract all the new RobotWars folders, some of the new stuff uses the same name as the existing stuff. Example; extract the RobotWars components and there is file called "Caster", while there is an existing stock file called "Caster" as well. Now, do I overwrite the existing file, or do I rename it and keep both?
I've never had a problem with a mod before, mainly because this one has no readme nor does it sort itself out.
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I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
I don't play stock anymore, but yet don't feel like a wimp for this !
Yes, but you've dedicated yourself to be great at DSL, I simply stopped playing stock because I found it boring.
And, to go against the grain, i'd prefer to be average at both rather than just average at DSL ;)
I stopped played stock ALSO because it is boring when you have tasted DSL.
Yeah, also innovation is a lot more common in DSL, most stock bots just look the same if they're a popup and a mess if they're not.
We'll see though, i'll try to make something interesting in stock, for now, back to helping the new guy.
LAWLS more innovation? There are still new innovations in stock, even after 7 years.
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I feel like a wimp for just playing DSL now.
I don't play stock anymore, but yet don't feel like a wimp for this !
Yes, but you've dedicated yourself to be great at DSL, I simply stopped playing stock because I found it boring.
And, to go against the grain, i'd prefer to be average at both rather than just average at DSL ;)
I stopped played stock ALSO because it is boring when you have tasted DSL.
Yeah, also innovation is a lot more common in DSL, most stock bots just look the same if they're a popup and a mess if they're not.
We'll see though, i'll try to make something interesting in stock, for now, back to helping the new guy.
LAWLS more innovation? There are still new innovations in stock, even after 7 years.
EFFECTIVE innovaation.
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Lol I don't see much of that in DSL........
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The way I see it in DSL (I'm probably wrong again on this one), you've got the tried, tested and perfected designs, such as popups, jugglers, SnS and the like, and then you have the as-yet-untrialled designs such as JoeBlo's Xception, and S_M's wierd underpoker design.
The trouble is, most of the new design are going to need quite a lot of refining, and the older designs are so far ahead of them that most new designs tend to die quite early as we spend too much time trying to iron out problems in them, encounter or create new ones, or eventually merge the bot into a design that's incredibly similar to what's around now, a bit like the Wheels Are Tasty series has done.
There's still members like Naryar and Somebody who try and add a new tweak on an existing style of bot, but I'm not entirely certain that's a particularly significant step forward in bot building. But at least it is progress, which is very good in a game that's seven years old.
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eh both have generic stuff and both have original stuff
DSL does have more options in pure construction possibles..
you cant deny it.. you have extenders with AP's only on one side vs extenders, flipper segments, shell pieces, disc's, etc
no doubt someone will return with the comment "it takes more skill in stock" well aside for the simple amount of parts they are both fine in there own ways.. its really apples and oranges,
nothing will ever come of this ever going debate because I can guarantee 100% of the community will never agree what game is better...
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and then you have the as-yet-untrialled designs such as JoeBlo's Xception, and S_M's wierd underpoker design.
What :question:
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and then you have the as-yet-untrialled designs such as JoeBlo's Xception, and S_M's wierd underpoker design.
What :question:
I think it was Cologne (or Perfume or whatever).
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Probably a gut-ripping poker ?
And Cologne is a Flying Guillotine ripoff IIRC.
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and then you have the as-yet-untrialled designs such as JoeBlo's Xception, and S_M's wierd underpoker design.
What :question:
I think it was Cologne (or Perfume or whatever).
Cologne
That's just a LW Flying Guillotine. 123's idea.
:eek: It could Be made cubed!
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I think it was Cologne (or Perfume or whatever).
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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and then you have the as-yet-untrialled designs such as JoeBlo's Xception, and S_M's wierd underpoker design.
What :question:
It had wheels on stilts, and a piston with some razors on it facing downwards, so when the opponent went for the chassis, it would drive underneath and get razor'd from above. For some reason it had two seperate smartzones.
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and then you have the as-yet-untrialled designs such as JoeBlo's Xception, and S_M's wierd underpoker design.
What :question:
It had wheels on stilts, and a piston with some razors on it facing downwards, so when the opponent went for the chassis, it would drive underneath and get razor'd from above. For some reason it had two seperate smartzones.
That was in Stock :confused: , Encroaching Darkness I believe.
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That was Stock? I'm sure it was DSL...might be wrong, though.
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This?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76163Encroaching%20Darkness3.PNG)
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Yes, that is what I was thinking of. =]
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get razor'd
*meme detected*
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Hey everyone. I have 3 questions that are partially nobody.
1. What are people using to take pictures of their bots? I have no idea so plz help me.
2. We really need some more stock tournaments. Stock is a lost art now that needs to be appreciated more. If anyone can look into that and possibly start on that would be great.
3. How do people get the zteck (I think that's what it is) motors to lay on their back other than facing off to the sides. Same with the batteries? Plz respond I really appreciate it. :claping
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1. If you press F11 in-game, you get a picture in the Screenshot folder. Unfortunately, it's saved as quite a memory-consuming Bitmap file, so we tend to convert it to .png before we upload it.
2. Stock Tournaments are kinda few and far between, given the fairly low amount of components you can use compared to DSL, and the most effective designs are commonly extremely similar (HS/Popups tend to win most Stock Tournaments). BTTB3 is a Stock tourney, however, maybe it'll rectify the balance slightly.
3. In the Bot Lab, there's a small preview image of the component next to its description. On the preview image, there's a small green node, which is the point where it attaches to the baseplate or other component. If you hold the left mouse button and drag in the preview image, the preview should rotate, and you should see another attachment point on the back of the Z-Tek.
Hope this helps. ;)
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Thx this did help alot. One last thing, my ra2 regular and dsl are messed up. In the bot lab the buttons like components and stuff are messed up. Like the lettering is too large for the size of the button or something. The background and main screen and arena selection buttons have the same problem. Oh yah the robot stats and countdown in battle are messed up too. Any clue what's causing this/how to fix it?
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Try the 1.3 patch?
If not get a clean copy from Sage's sig.
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Thx