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Robot Arena => General Support => Topic started by: GarvinTheGreat on April 28, 2012, 05:02:14 PM

Title: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on April 28, 2012, 05:02:14 PM: This has been bugging me for awhile now. If I am building a bot that has a ton of extenders on it, eventually RA2 won't let me put any more things on the extender. Can someone please tell me how to fix this. I want to finish my bot, but I can't since it won't alow me to but somthing on this one extender.
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: Mr. AS on April 28, 2012, 05:05:09 PM: you cant fix it [without bfe] it's rule of 7
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: MassimoV on April 28, 2012, 05:05:26 PM: Yep 7, You can only have a chain of 7 components.

EDIT: Ninja'd
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: NFX on April 28, 2012, 05:05:35 PM: It's what's known as the "Rule of Seven", which basically means you can't attach more than 7 components in a row. You can branch off in multiple directions, though, like with most 36HS setups. It's a part of the game mechanics which helps reduce lag. You can circimvent it with BFE, however, but not in-game.
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on April 28, 2012, 05:06:31 PM: Damn, I'll have to think of some way around it. (In game of course)
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: Wacky Bob on April 28, 2012, 05:10:51 PM: Also, you can't make a chain of extenders too long, for example, connecting a few 120 cms.
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: NFX on April 28, 2012, 05:26:00 PM: Quote from: Wacky Bob on April 28, 2012, 05:10:51 PM
Also, you can't make a chain of extenders too long, for example, connecting a few 120 cms.
That's the maxsphere, and you get a warning about that. The extender hovers on the AP of the other one, but it turns red, and you get a warning at the bottom of the screen. With the rule of seven, there is no warning at all, the component just moves over the other component without snapping to any of the AP's of that component at all.
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: J on April 30, 2012, 01:10:05 PM: This is RA2 with the rule of 7:
(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/thumb/b/bc/Sftw.jpg/250px-Sftw.jpg)

This is RA2 without the rule of 7:
(http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/thumb/2/28/Movie2007_Prime_sword.jpg/800px-Movie2007_Prime_sword.jpg)

Seven, being an odd number, just makes everyone annoyed.
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: NFX on April 30, 2012, 01:28:33 PM: Quote from: J on April 30, 2012, 01:10:05 PM
This is RA2 with the rule of 7:
(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/thumb/b/bc/Sftw.jpg/250px-Sftw.jpg)

This is RA2 without the rule of 7:
(http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/thumb/2/28/Movie2007_Prime_sword.jpg/800px-Movie2007_Prime_sword.jpg)

Seven, being an odd number, just makes everyone annoyed.

I think Natef came up with the theory that it's actually eight components in series, but the chassis is the first "component". It does make sense when you think about it, as 8 is 2^3, thus a binary computer would probably understand it a little easier. Plus, since the game begins counting at zero, what with Bot0, Team0 and so forth, the chassis would then become the "zeroth" component in the chain, allowing for seven components to be attached to it in a chain.
Title: Re: Limit on Extenders?
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 30, 2012, 02:48:56 PM: Is there a tutorial or post on how to get past Rule Of Seven with BFE anywhere?