Windows 7 64-bit problem

[Cobra!]

I just installed Robot Arena 2 on my new PC, which is a Windows 7 64-bit computer (Yeah, I know, a problem right there), and the game isn't running nearly as smooth as it did on my old Vista laptop.

I tried running it using Game Booster. and that said the game was running on 500-1000 fps! It's not showing nearly that much, so it's probably limiting it to make it playable, is there anyway I can somehow raise the limit or at least turn it off?

It can't be just my PC with the problem, my cousin installed it on his, which is also Win 7 64, and he had the exact same problem.

I read other topics on the forum, and none of the suggestions worked for me, I installed Sage's RA2 v1.4, didn't fix it, I've tried putting the game in many other directories, problem still persists.

So what do I do? Any help would be appreciated!

[SKBT]

did you try running RA2 out of your downloads folder or desktop?

try running in a lower resolution or in windowed mode.

[Cobra!]

did you try running RA2 out of your downloads folder or desktop?

try running in a lower resolution or in windowed mode.

I tried running RA2 out of many directories, desktop, downloads, documents, program files (not the x86), my memory stick, you name it, it didn't make a difference.

The game supposedly runs 1000fps on my current resolution on my PC, so I doubt lowering it would help, I tried it anyway, and it didn't. Windowed mode didn't fix it either.

[Badger]

Odd, I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 and it runs fine for me. You'll learn that this game is very unstable, for example, Naryar has just had his game die on him.

Can we have your laptop's specs?

[Cobra!]

Odd, I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 and it runs fine for me. You'll learn that this game is very unstable, for example, Naryar has just had his game die on him.

I know, I've had many problems with it.

Can we have your laptop's specs?

My old laptop?
Windows Vista Premium
2.1Ghz Dual Core CPU
3GB RAM
500MB GPU
300GB HDD
1280 x 1024 resolution

If you're talking about my new PC (Which is a desktop):
3.6 GHz Quad-Core CPU
12GB RAM
GeForce GTX 454 GPU (1.5GB I think)
2TB HDD
1920 x 1080 resolution

Yet my laptop ran RA2 at 60+fps.
My new PC, which is far stronger, only runs at 30fps, so I know this isn't normal.

[HurricaneAndrew]

Odd, I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 and it runs fine for me. You'll learn that this game is very unstable, for example, Naryar has just had his game die on him.

I know, I've had many problems with it.

Can we have your laptop's specs?

My old laptop?
Windows Vista Premium
2.1Ghz Dual Core CPU
3GB RAM
500MB GPU
300GB HDD
1280 x 1024 resolution

If you're talking about my new PC (Which is a desktop):
3.6 GHz Quad-Core CPU
12GB RAM
GeForce GTX 454 GPU (1.5GB I think)
2TB HDD
1920 x 1080 resolution

Yet my laptop ran RA2 at 60+fps.
My new PC, which is far stronger, only runs at 30fps, so I know this isn't normal.

I'm going to bet that it is the graphics card. RA2 doesn't seem to like certain nVidia cards, for some reason.

[Cobra!]

Odd, I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 and it runs fine for me. You'll learn that this game is very unstable, for example, Naryar has just had his game die on him.

I know, I've had many problems with it.

Can we have your laptop's specs?

My old laptop?
Windows Vista Premium
2.1Ghz Dual Core CPU
3GB RAM
500MB GPU
300GB HDD
1280 x 1024 resolution

If you're talking about my new PC (Which is a desktop):
3.6 GHz Quad-Core CPU
12GB RAM
GeForce GTX 454 GPU (1.5GB I think)
2TB HDD
1920 x 1080 resolution

Yet my laptop ran RA2 at 60+fps.
My new PC, which is far stronger, only runs at 30fps, so I know this isn't normal.

I'm going to bet that it is the graphics card. RA2 doesn't seem to like certain nVidia cards, for some reason.

Didn't they release a patch to fix the nVidia card problems?

[Classicus]

Disclaimer: I've never had problems with RA2 (other than the usual crashes) so I cannot be 100% I'm helping here.

Are you trying a fresh RA2 or one copied from your old machine? Maybe you could try a completely new install (i.e. download a new one) and swap files over until you find the problem causer. I have found that some older games don't like DDR3 ram, or large amounts of ram in general. I'm suspecting your 12 gigs might have something to do with it.

I have 7 64-bit ultimate and I never have these problems either so its probably either gpu, ram or your current RA2 pack. Maybe you could try the XP virtual machine if your desktop's windows version is compatible. Unbelievably I managed to get a few very old games to work on it.

[Cobra!]

Disclaimer: I've never had problems with RA2 (other than the usual crashes) so I cannot be 100% I'm helping here.

Are you trying a fresh RA2 or one copied from your old machine?

Fresh install.

I have found that some older games don't like DDR3 ram, or large amounts of ram in general. I'm suspecting your 12 gigs might have something to do with it.

I've noticed that too, is there anyway around that?

I have 7 64-bit ultimate and I never have these problems either so its probably either gpu, ram or your current RA2 pack. Maybe you could try the XP virtual machine if your desktop's windows version is compatible. Unbelievably I managed to get a few very old games to work on it.

I've tried Virtual Machine before, it didn't work for me, besides, that would be a lot of hassle, opening up Virtual PC, booting up an OS within an OS, just to play a game.

[Classicus]

I have found that some older games don't like DDR3 ram, or large amounts of ram in general. I'm suspecting your 12 gigs might have something to do with it.

I've noticed that too, is there anyway around that?

None that I know of personally. Civ 4 and UT2004 are the main culprits but they still work after giving me an initial warning. But I think you should proceed assuming this is your main problem. I don't think its the gpu because Nvidia tend to be quite good for legacy. And I'm not even sure if RA2 uses the graphics card on high end machines. My gpu is noisy as and I would know if it was being used by the game. You could Google it and see.

I have 7 64-bit ultimate and I never have these problems either so its probably either gpu, ram or your current RA2 pack. Maybe you could try the XP virtual machine if your desktop's windows version is compatible. Unbelievably I managed to get a few very old games to work on it.

I've tried Virtual Machine before, it didn't work for me, besides, that would be a lot of hassle, opening up Virtual PC, booting up an OS within an OS, just to play a game.

Bear in mind that more and more old games are going to become difficult to get working in the near future. Its not just going to be RA2. I'd seriously consider the virtual machine. Microsoft have improved it since I last used it, the version I have now is more stable. I think this will be the way alot of older games get played in the future so we might as well get the hang of it now.

[Cobra!]

I have found that some older games don't like DDR3 ram, or large amounts of ram in general. I'm suspecting your 12 gigs might have something to do with it.

I've noticed that too, is there anyway around that?

None that I know of personally. Civ 4 and UT2004 are the main culprits but they still work after giving me an initial warning. But I think you should proceed assuming this is your main problem. I don't think its the gpu because Nvidia tend to be quite good for legacy. And I'm not even sure if RA2 uses the graphics card on high end machines. My gpu is noisy as and I would know if it was being used by the game. You could Google it and see.

Good idea, not sure what keywords to use though...

I have 7 64-bit ultimate and I never have these problems either so its probably either gpu, ram or your current RA2 pack. Maybe you could try the XP virtual machine if your desktop's windows version is compatible. Unbelievably I managed to get a few very old games to work on it.

I've tried Virtual Machine before, it didn't work for me, besides, that would be a lot of hassle, opening up Virtual PC, booting up an OS within an OS, just to play a game.

Bear in mind that more and more old games are going to become difficult to get working in the near future. Its not just going to be RA2. I'd seriously consider the virtual machine. Microsoft have improved it since I last used it, the version I have now is more stable. I think this will be the way alot of older games get played in the future so we might as well get the hang of it now.

I tried to download it again, and it says I am not "eligible to download it", because I have Win 7 Home Premium.

Besides, I want to make sure that there's no way I can play RA2 properly on Windows 7 before I start using emulators.

[Classicus]

If you can you might want to see about changing how much ram you have in your machine. You will almost never need anything more than 8 GB.  Also if I remember correctly older programs for some reason like ram grouped in 2 4 8 16 etc. You'd be surprised how picky some things can be when it comes to ram. I think the safest bet is to take it to your local store (don't violate your warranty!!), get them to take you down to 2 gigs, and back up to 4 then 8 and see if that works. Testing the game each time. You can always keep the other 4 gigs as spares and you will probably need them.


Another option is to do what I have done: An older machine for older games. I have this PC plus a windows vista 32 bit laptop which runs my 16-bit games. Maybe you could do something similar.


I think the overall problem is your machine is too advanced for the game. Nothing actually wrong with it.

[Cobra!]

If you can you might want to see about changing how much ram you have in your machine. You will almost never need anything more than 8 GB.  Also if I remember correctly older programs for some reason like ram grouped in 2 4 8 16 etc. You'd be surprised how picky some things can be when it comes to ram. I think the safest bet is to take it to your local store (don't violate your warranty!!), get them to take you down to 2 gigs, and back up to 4 then 8 and see if that works. Testing the game each time. You can always keep the other 4 gigs as spares and you will probably need them.


Another option is to do what I have done: An older machine for older games. I have this PC plus a windows vista 32 bit laptop which runs my 16-bit games. Maybe you could do something similar.


I think the overall problem is your machine is too advanced for the game. Nothing actually wrong with it.

Is there anyway to make the PC run on only on certain RAM, similar to how you can tell it how many CPU cores to run?