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Robot Arena => General Support => Topic started by: Reier on July 23, 2015, 12:57:08 AM

Title: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 23, 2015, 12:57:08 AM
i know RA2 isn't the most stable game but I can't play 2 matches in a row in ironforge without it CTDing. Doesn't happen as much in the bot lab, but does occasionally, especially on wiring.
tried messing with resolution and quality with no effect. I can't think of anything else.

i have no idea what's specifically causing this. It mainly seems to crash when i select AI bots to fight against. Any help?

this is my bs crash message

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53687bscrash.png)
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: 090901 on July 23, 2015, 01:21:43 AM
It's seems to happen when 2 bots hit extremely hard in the matches
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Thyrus on July 23, 2015, 03:20:48 AM
Run it in fullscreen
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 23, 2015, 11:13:00 AM
it still crashes in fullscreen, I've tried that too

so there's no fix then? how can anyone film a tourney with this mess
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Badnik96 on July 23, 2015, 11:18:20 AM
Due to the lighter components and the stronger motors the physics engine doesn't like ironforge. It's the one flaw of the game mode really.
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 23, 2015, 11:20:43 AM
ughhhh

at least the bot lab works fine i guess
filming a tourney with this is going to be a nightmare though
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: cephalopod on July 23, 2015, 08:10:49 PM
Believe me, it was, for both RIP4 and Botallica. Just kinda have to deal with it unfortunately D:
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: S.T.C. on July 23, 2015, 08:17:45 PM
ughhhh

at least the bot lab works fine i guess
filming a tourney with this is going to be a nightmare though
Wish me luck :P
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 23, 2015, 08:59:35 PM
lol i seriously cannot make it through a match fighting house of stars without it crashing
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Meganerdbomb on July 23, 2015, 09:12:38 PM
Yeah,any hard hit can potentially crash it. It seems to be worst in the Combat Zone.
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Naryar on July 24, 2015, 02:29:52 AM
wiring is prolly because you're in windowed mode, it happens to me all the time
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Domanating on July 24, 2015, 08:03:17 AM
It's seems to happen when 2 bots hit extremely hard in the matches

I noticed that too.
It's really hard to make my videos with these crashes, I have reboot the game 4 or 5 times before having decent footage of 1 battle.

I never posted about this issue because my Ironforge version is filled with DSL3 components so I figured the crashes might come from that. This thread however proves me wrong.
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 24, 2015, 08:08:53 AM
If it's any consolation I've had no problems running and recording Ironforge. Does this only happen when you record? What hardware and OS are you all running?
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 24, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
i haven't recorded anything yet
Windows 7, use some AMD radeon GPU which I assume would go above and beyond the capabilities of RA2
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Domanating on July 24, 2015, 10:30:20 AM
If it's any consolation I've had no problems running and recording Ironforge. Does this only happen when you record? What hardware and OS are you all running?

It happens to me even if I'm not recording.

I noticed however RA2 Stock/DSL/Ironforge while recording, tends to become less stable with every battle I do and ultimately crashes eventually but It's not as annoying as Ironforge's consistent crashes.

Running Win7 and using Fraps

CPU:Intel Pentium E5700 Dual core (Yeah pretty old CPU, looking for a new one)
Motherboard:G41M-P43 Combo
RAM: 4GB
GPU:Nvidia Geforce GT640
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: 090901 on July 24, 2015, 11:16:45 AM
If it's any consolation I've had no problems running and recording Ironforge. Does this only happen when you record? What hardware and OS are you all running?
It really depends on the bots you are using, like none of the Iron Whispers bots really hit hard enough to crash since there wasn't that many crazy-ass spinners.
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 24, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
it does seem a BIT more stable with XP compatibility mode and fullscreen but it still crashes a bunch
especially with HWs because I guess they send parts flying harder
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: 123savethewhales on July 25, 2015, 12:29:19 PM
If I drop the speed of spin motors I can get it more stable, but things will start hitting like kittens.

Let me know if you guys want me to drop the speed.
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 25, 2015, 01:25:49 PM
i think we'll need some more testing before any rebalancing
I'm not even sure high KE hits are what's causing it
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: 123savethewhales on July 25, 2015, 01:45:30 PM
Actually, yeah it is.  Lowering speed definitely makes the game more stable.

Here's a speed reduction patch.  All spin motor slowed by 10%, burst piston max speed reduced.  Game is a lot more stable.  Try it and let me know if it still crash.

https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/1976ironforge1-1.zip (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/1976ironforge1-1.zip)
Title: Re: ironforge friggin crashes 24/7
Post by: Reier on July 25, 2015, 06:57:36 PM
It appears more stable, I'll have to do some more matches before I can be sure though
thanks either way