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Few questions about AIing
« on: November 19, 2015, 01:28:59 PM »
Hey everyone,

I used to play this game about 4/5 years ago and recently downloaded it again for another spin.

I was wondering if you could signpost me to some decent tutorials/guides and answer a few questions for me.

Bit of context first: When I first played the game, I made a load of Robot Wars replicas with the aim to make my own AI out of them. However, my young, naive brain at the time couldn't handle/comprehend the complicated looking process - so I gave up and stopped playing/building.

So now I've aged a few years, I've decided to give it another go. I am currently building a selection of bots from Robot Wars series one, using RA2 stock components. (Not accurate replicas as such, but my slightly altered interpretations).

Once I've finished building my bots, I'm hoping to make them in to AI with the objective of battling them in the standard RA2 arenas. - This is where my questions arise.

- Can I create custom AI with the stock version of the game? (I'm using 1.4) - Or do I need DSL/Ironforge?
- If I can create custom AI using the stock version of the game, am I limited to 3 bots per team? (If so, will I need one bot for each weight class slot?

As for the creating AI process, I have printed off the AI-Chart which I hope to have a good read of soon.

Here's my first few bots so you can see what I'm up to....

Roadblock


Nemesis


Recyclops


Killertron


Cunning Plan
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Re: Few questions about AIing
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 01:42:26 PM »
I can tell you right now the most likely kind of .py you need for each robot. Roadblock looks like it would use omni (unless it has the saw on the back), nemesis uses omni or popup, recyclops uses popup or flipper, killertron uses popup, and cunning plan uses omni.

Here's some commonly used .py's to get started.

Nar AI also has some specialty .py files for other types of robots, but the first download should cover 95% of robots.

Remember to label your buttons "Forward" for forward/backward driving, "LeftRight" for steering, "Spin" for spin motors, and "Fire" for piston/burst motors. Specialty .py's may have other controls but those 4 are the ones you'll use the most.

Starcore AI has select_robot_computer(or something like that).gib in the UI/exhibition folder to allow you to put 6 robots on an AI team in stock.
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Re: Few questions about AIing
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 02:16:20 PM »
Thanks for the .py's, much appreciated!

So if I'm creating AI for stock and I want 6 per team, I'll need select_robot_computer(or something like that).gib from Starcaore AI? Will I still need 2 bots for each weight class or can it be 6 bots from the same weight class?

And as for smart zones, does one cover all? Or is there different smartzones for different bot types?
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Re: Few questions about AIing
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 02:47:28 PM »
you made nemisis, poorly but you made him none the less...

you and i are gonna get along jjjjjjjuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssttttttttt fine ;)
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Re: Few questions about AIing
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 03:27:24 PM »
Quote from: hal on November 19, 2015, 02:16:20 PM
So if I'm creating AI for stock and I want 6 per team, I'll need select_robot_computer(or something like that).gib from Starcaore AI?
Yes. I just looked it over again and the exact file location should be UI/exhibition/selectbot_computer.gib

Quote from: hal on November 19, 2015, 02:16:20 PM
Will I still need 2 bots for each weight class or can it be 6 bots from the same weight class?
They can generally be any weight class. The only way that weight class actually matters is in the in-game tournament mode. Bot0 from each team appears when you enter a LW in a given tournament, Bot1 for MW, and Bot2 for HW.
Bot3, 4 and 5 never appear in the in-game tournaments. If you play exhibition mode then having Bot0 thorugh 5 be the same weight won't affect anything.

Quote from: hal on November 19, 2015, 02:16:20 PM
And as for smart zones, does one cover all? Or is there different smartzones for different bot types?
Smartzones are one-component-fits-all. There aren't "hammer smartzones" or "flipper smartzones" out for download. Generally you will need to enter "weapon" as the name for your smartzone. The only differences between different smartzone components are shape and weight. Madiaba's smartzones offer more shapes for smartzones at a minimal weight so that you don't have an extra 3kg on your robot, since that's what the stock smartzones weigh.
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Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
Step 2: Fold the sauce in 5 slices and put it in the dough.
Step 3: Paint the eggs with a pitcher of a clock showing what time you want to wake up and eat pizza for breakfast.
Step 4: Put the eggs in the dough.
Step 5: Make it flat into a round shape and draw the time you want on it.
Step 6: Put some old steel to prevent other peple from stealing it.
Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

hal

Re: Few questions about AIing
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 03:39:05 PM »
Amazing, think you've covered everything there Mr. AS - many thanks!

That's my weekend sorted
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