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Robot Arena => General Support => Topic started by: hal on August 31, 2010, 01:56:00 PM

Title: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
Hey, my game crashes quite regularly when i start or end a battle.


 I'm using the downloaded version of the game from Sage's sig. DSL 2.1 I think it is.
Only alteration I have made is replacing the DSL AI bots with the original game's AI.


Using windows 7


error message is somethink like: Robot Arena 2 has stopped working, windows is checking for a solution to the problem.




Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: cephalopod on August 31, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
It'll more than likely be the AI. Did you change the entire AI folder (including bindings, teams.txt etc)?

Or, it might be the components in the stock AI bots. But definately something AI-related.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 02:03:48 PM
I basically just dragged the AI folder from the original game to the DSL version.
Is it a more complicated procedure than that?
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: cephalopod on August 31, 2010, 02:05:52 PM
No, that sounds like the way you would do it. If you were to do it and it were to work. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but the components of the stock bots you're battling may not be in the DSL mod.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
Do you reckon that could be it?
I bet that's not easy to sort out :|
any ideas how?
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: Naryar on August 31, 2010, 02:17:45 PM
Stock bots work in DSL. Normally.

but you're fighting Stock AI with DSL bots ? *laughs*
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 02:24:28 PM
Yeah, I just wanted to try out all the bots on the old AI before diving into the big DSL pond.
The crashing is preventing me from doing so though :/
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: Badnik96 on August 31, 2010, 02:25:44 PM
Well first of all, welcome back! :) I remember you posting that massive post of RW reps.

Anyway:

1. Has this game worked before with the same AI?
If yes, then just stop playing for a while. It happens on my grandma's computer sometimes.
If no, then I would re-install the game.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 02:31:52 PM
Ha thank you very much!
Wish I still had those bots ha :(


I've just got a new laptop and fancied going back to play the game, i remember it used to crash when I used the disc on my old PC,
So i downloaded the copy in Sage's sig hoping things would be better, sadly not.


I must be doing something wrong surely, but I can#t think what :/
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: G.K. on August 31, 2010, 02:32:44 PM
Must be the AI
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 02:43:06 PM
Any suggested solutions? :)
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: J24 on August 31, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
not really a solution but,...
it happens to me sometimes (about once every two days actually)
i use windows 7 but i havent touched the ai at all so it probably isnt the ai
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: G.K. on August 31, 2010, 02:51:55 PM
Just use the regular DSL AI.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 03:21:01 PM
I'd rather not just yet.


Would it be anything to do with the DSL teams having 6 bot slots and the stock teams only having 3 bot slots?
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: G.K. on August 31, 2010, 03:22:20 PM
no
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 03:24:29 PM
Ok.


Know of any possible solutions G.K. ?
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: G.K. on August 31, 2010, 04:00:26 PM
Unfortunately not.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on August 31, 2010, 04:17:42 PM
Just been running the original copy of the game from Sage's sig, turns out i'm having the same issues with that.
Could windows 7 be the problem?
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: Somebody on August 31, 2010, 07:55:18 PM
It could be. RA2 was obviously not meant for Windows 7.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: SKBT on August 31, 2010, 08:54:48 PM
RA2 runs fine on my Windows 7 computer.

Offtopic: I didn't know Hal9000 ran windows.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: Trovaner on August 31, 2010, 11:22:46 PM
I sometimes get problems like that on my Windows 7. Where do you have it installed? RA2 has the most problems when it is in "Program Files (x86)." Regardless of where you saved it, there are going to be problems. As previously mentioned by Somebody, RA2 was not made with Windows 7 in mind.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: JoeBlo on September 01, 2010, 01:38:09 AM
It could be. RA2 was obviously not meant for Windows 7.

thats silly Infogames should have designed this low budget, unfinished product to suit computers 10 years in the future :P
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: Noodle on September 01, 2010, 03:28:19 AM
It could be. RA2 was obviously not meant for Windows 7.

thats silly Infogames should have designed this low budget, unfinished product to suit computers 10 years in the future :P

Infogrames didn't design it, they just published it.  You can blame Gabriel Entertainment for that (I think). :P

However on a more serious note, RA2 is programmed in a really odd way.  It's one of the most volatile games I've ever played as far as crashing goes.  It also takes control of your mouse and keyboard in a way different to that of other games (I'm not as tech savvy so I'm having a hard time explaining), not to mention a bunch of other  little quirks.

@hal
It does work fine (or as well as it would anywhere else) on my Windows 7 machine, so I don't think the OS is a problem.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: hal on September 03, 2010, 04:12:13 AM
Not the OS then :)


I'm just messing around with the bots in the event mode thing, which is when it usually crashes.
Doesn't really seem to happen if I do it through exhibition.
Title: Re: Crashing before battles and sometimes after :(
Post by: Clickbeetle on September 06, 2010, 11:39:27 PM
I'm just messing around with the bots in the event mode thing, which is when it usually crashes.
Doesn't really seem to happen if I do it through exhibition.


Aha!


The events were always touchy.  It crashes if you lose a wheel in battle, and it also crashes sometimes seemingly at random.  Your game is working, if not fine, then at least normally.  There's nothing to be done about it.