Arena question

[Badger]

I'm not totally sure what forum this goes in, so I put it here.

Is there any way to make RA2 Arenas simply, using only free programs?

Thanks for the help, in advance.

(I don't need anything fancy, such as spike, moving parts or anything damaging at all.)

[Stagfish]

You can skin an arena, its fairly simple too.

[G.K.]

What are you looking to make?

[Sparkey98]

Notepad + Python.

[Trovaner]

Your best bet is to use a text editor to create your arena. The only other way to make an arena is by using 3DS Max with a special plugin (much harder than it looks). Having 3DS Max still requires some knowledge of the GMF file (so you would still need to know how to text edit).

There are three basic pieces for every arena:
1. GMF - The tutorial found here covers the basics (everything except for the attachment points are the same for Arenas). The GMF deals with all the objects found within the game (I.E. the floor, walls, ceiling, hazards, zones). It also has the capability to add hinges (doesn't control the movement).
2. Python File - These take the place of the TXT files used for components. There is so much that you can do using python alone but for now, you may want to just change the name line and GMF location line. The python file is generally used for all the special features (I.E. movement of hinges, prismatics, visuals effects, cameras, and much much more).
3. Graphics - RA2 supports TGAs and BMPs as long as they are saved in 24 bit with RGB color and no RLE compression. You can find numberous tutorials online. Modding these is known as skinning but if you plan to release anything be sure to remove any dependencies (by changing the name of every file (requires a bit of python and GMF work))

If you post your arena idea here, we can point you in the right direction and help you if you get stuck. Otherwise, I could show you via PM/IM.

[Serge]

Notepad + Python.

You are mixing two concepts. Editors and languages. The correct version would be either:

"Notepad"
or
"GMF + Python"

Get your facts straight, don't be a smartass.




To OP: Make arenas from scratch? Only if you are hardcore and/or Chuck Norris. Skin arenas? Easily. Edit arena logic? Easily, provided you have a basic understanding of the Python scripting language. Edit geometry? Sure, grab a GMF decompiler, mess around in the decompiled file, recompile.

[Sparkey98]

Notepad + Python.

You are mixing two concepts. Editors and languages. The correct version would be either:

"Notepad"
or
"GMF + Python"

Get your facts straight, don't be a smartass.




To OP: Make arenas from scratch? Only if you are hardcore and/or Chuck Norris. Skin arenas? Easily. Edit arena logic? Easily, provided you have a basic understanding of the Python scripting language. Edit geometry? Sure, grab a GMF decompiler, mess around in the decompiled file, recompile.

I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, just sharing what knowledge I do know. I've seen maps made in notepad and scripted in Python.

[Madiaba]

Nice to see people still interested in creating arenas.

It's always better to listen both more and before talking, S-878.  That's how Serge and Trov (and all others) have earned their Titles. Both of these guys are good didactic sources, if you'll ask.

[Sparkey98]

Ok, Sorry I said anything.
 
>I should ask first.<