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Off-Topic => Games => Existing Games => Topic started by: System32 on June 24, 2010, 05:28:04 PM
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http://www.roboforge.net/ (http://www.roboforge.net/)
It's a game in similer vein to RA2, but it's AI bots instead. It's abandonware, like RA2, and fun, but keeps crashing...
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Like RA2
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Cool, I'll check it out after dinner, tonight is taco night :P
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Like RA2
It's about robots fighting.
NOTE: BE CAREFUL WHEN DELETING, IT CRASHES!
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I was merely continuing your post : "but keeps crashing... like RA2"
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I was merely continuing your post : "but keeps crashing... like RA2"
You should have put an ellipsis:
"Keeps crashing...
...Like RA2."
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Lol, it uses .bot files like RA2...
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Hmm, I wanna see if they are corrupted lol.
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The game crashed when I clicked "Shielding".
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Set you graphics to low quality, or play with them a bit.
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Cool, I'll check it out after dinner, tonight is taco night :P
TACOS!
anyway cool this game is cool but it crashes A LOT!
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I've played it a few times... In fact, one day I was thinking that I could make a converter for getting custom AI routines in Roboforge to work for RA2. I doubt that I will do it though because Roboforge over simplifies strategies.
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And RA2 doesn't?
Well, FBS is a little complex...
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I used to play this but never really got anywhere...Maybe it's time to dust it off again...
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bump but I found something huge:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75652ACEUPLINK ROBOFORGE.PNG)
ACEUPLINK HAD A ROBOFORGE TOURNEY!
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Its lame that as soon as I get to the botbuild area the game goes into complete freeze mode. There propably is some fixes for that but I cant be bothered right now, I might try this game later on again.
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Had a go, screws up my computers graphics.
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is ths free?
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I downloaded this some years ago. I didn`t get how to make anything an deleted it later.
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Hi,
I'm from Roboforge.
We received a few visits from RA2 people, that 's nice! :claping
Just to help someone here about Roboforge: take a look to: www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org)
You will find basic explantions, tips, demo video AND download (the game is for free).
Pls do not install version 1.34 but just 1.34-02 (according to instruction included into DOWNLOAD section).
For any additional question You can contact RF forum.
On my side I would give a look to RA2 (in my next free 5 minute) as some RF people played it. It looks interesting....
It would be nice to have a challenge between RF and RA2 community..
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Wow! :mrgreen:
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Hey Fred :D
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Hey bud.
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OK, thanks Sparkey98 I noticed and fixed some download problem.
Now www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org) -->download should work fine.
I remark again: please note that probably You are running RF installation over a MultiCore CPU (as Single Core are crap) so during installation select the correct
checkbox.
On my side I successfully downloaded files of RA2... OK I'll start to have a look tomorrow...(time for bed now)
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Pls do not install version 1.34 but just 1.34-02 (according to instruction included into DOWNLOAD section).
So thats why my game failed! I downloaded the 1.34 version
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OK, who here entered the Featherweight Trials (scheduled to start tomorrow)? There are 11 entries and I know the usual entry number is around 5 or 6. I entered twice, with a revised Turbo Ninja and a new hammer bot I made, called the Maniacal Surgeon. Who else entered?
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I haven't yet, so far I only made 2 failbots, 1 Hammer wich I couldn't figure out how to make it work so I scrapped it before I realized the Moves tab and 1 Spinner wich could only defeat the testbot #0 and in 9 seconds too.
Imma practice abit more before entering anywhere.
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@Badnik: Yeah, I knew of Roboforge a long while before this thread, and there's a tourney history which I believed included such tournies.
I'd play and compete in that RF tourney but the game returns to desktop when I run it. Mysterious.
Fixed that but it crashes so much. Has none of the reliability I remembered.
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@badnik: I entered two bot :evilsmile:
@Redline: post me if You need help
@You all: damns! I made my first RA2 bot and kicked out @ 2nd round rookie tournament!!
I modified Smasher and made a crap spinner which spin sooo slooow (red bird spin motor)..
I need a lot of training.... :frown:
BTW:
1) No crash at all up to know with RA2
2) is ther any way to rotate parts after connected?
3) is there any way to save a complete limb (more part in connection) and then recall it.?
hhmmm .. sorry for out of topics
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2 - Not in the bot lab but you can do it if you tinker with the bot file
3 - Roughly same thing
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@badnik: I entered two bot :evilsmile:
@You all: damns! I made my first RA2 bot and kicked out @ 2nd round rookie tournament!!
I modified Smasher and made a crap spinner which spin sooo slooow (red bird spin motor)..
Smasher? You mean Atom Smasher? Yeah, Redbirds don't spin that fast. Use a Z-Tek.
and at my @- NOEZ now I' gonna lose. Your bots (in Roboforge) pwn.
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@Redline: post me if You need help
Thanks for the offer.
My game freezes totally while right clicking in the (RF) bot lab. If it doesn't it lasts about 20 or so before freezing, forcing me to end Java.exe itself to close the game.
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Hey BadNick, You re-created completly (or a significative part) of a stick-bot (body, chassis, mod. AI) !!! Are You really a new bie :eek:?
Anyway congrats :claping for last 30k tourney and thanks for RA2 tip (yeah, it was ATOM smasher).
@Naryar: thanks for explanation. I'll try to go trough this
@Redline: sorry but I have to place here a list of stupid questions (to be checked in sequence):
1. Did You select Multicore CPU check box during installation? (As I suppose you are using a Dual Core or higher). If not uninstall Roboforge through:
START->Programs --> Roboforge -->Uninstall
and then reinstall "roboforge_setup_1-34-02.exe" selecting correct check box.
2. Are You running the program through the shortcut created during installation? I recommend to don't run the program through double click on "roboforge.exe"
3. When RF start is it in windows mode or full screen?
4. Could you post:
- Your operating system (pls specify 32 or 64bit)
- CPU architecture
- a print screen
- output.txt file (it's inside "..\Roboforge" folder)
5. RF has been set to run OpenGL dll as default. Could You try to run RF (in some way) and select:
"Options-->DirectX" then "Save and Exit". Close the program and run it again.
If You can't get any benefits from DirectX settings restore OpenGL.
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Hey BadNick, You re-created completly (or a significative part) of a stick-bot (body, chassis, mod. AI) !!! Are You really a new bie :eek: ?
Nah, I found a hammer bot download on the Roboforge site and edited it a little.
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Bad Bad guy :gunz:
BTW that's what I hate in old web site. There's a lot of powerful bot there and most of newbie just download a bot, enter it in next tounrament and then leave
New installation package and new web site should stop this. All new demo bot are "self-protected" and will explode if entered into a tournament. :evilsmile:
Anyway, good choice :mrgreen:
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Yeah, but my other bot (Turbo Ninja) lost to a Nednil. (I'm not kidding)
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Made a new bot, Planning to win.
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How'd you do in today's tourney, S32?
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My opponent was so scared he ran away.
I lost due to points. (He scored by attacking my legs, and the rest of the match was my bot chasing him around the arena edge.)
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What was the bot and builder you lost to? Was it an Aspo?
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Twas the winner.
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@Redline: sorry but I have to place here a list of stupid questions (to be checked in sequence):
1. Did You select Multicore CPU check box during installation? (As I suppose you are using a Dual Core or higher). If not uninstall Roboforge through:
START->Programs --> Roboforge -->Uninstall
and then reinstall "roboforge_setup_1-34-02.exe" selecting correct check box.
2. Are You running the program through the shortcut created during installation? I recommend to don't run the program through double click on "roboforge.exe"
3. When RF start is it in windows mode or full screen?
4. Could you post:
- Your operating system (pls specify 32 or 64bit)
- CPU architecture
- a print screen
- output.txt file (it's inside "..\Roboforge" folder)
5. RF has been set to run OpenGL dll as default. Could You try to run RF (in some way) and select:
"Options-->DirectX" then "Save and Exit". Close the program and run it again.
If You can't get any benefits from DirectX settings restore OpenGL.
OK...
1. You can do that? I'll reinstall. *Wait for results*
2. Not anymore. That EXE doesn't even work.
3. Windowed. It still seems to have some of my previous data (2 failed bot designs)
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- XP 32-bit
- Hmm.. you just mean my CPU then.. I guess it's an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+
- Just a frozen workshop. Nothing special.
- There's nothing special in the output. Apparently I was going through the available parts, then it just suddenly ends (When I right click on the workspace)
UPDATE: Don't have and can't find this version "1.34-02" you're speaking of. Can only find 1.34 on the Demo page. No visible multi-core option.
UPDATE 2: Reinstalled 1.34 anyway, everything has changed - the DLLs for DirectX and OpenGL do not work (Something about the splash being an unrecognized option) , but the EXE does. However the workshop is now off limits.
B3dShapeManager.getScene. ERROR LOADING VRML FILE InputStream does not contain a serialized object
java.lang.NullPointerException
at roboforge.BComponent.loadShape(BComponent.java:461)
at roboforge.BComponent.init(BComponent.java:316)
at roboforge.BChassis.init(BChassis.java:1854)
at roboforge.BBot.init(BBot.java:659)
at roboforge.BBot.init(BBot.java:614)
at roboforge.BBot.<init>(BBot.java:252)
at roboforge.BBot.<init>(BBot.java:233)
at roboforge.ui.BGarageScreen$NewLayer.getBot(BGarageScreen.java:697)
at roboforge.ui.BGarageScreen$OptionLayer$OpenAction.threadedAction(BGarageScreen.java:396)
at roboforge.ui.action.BThreadedAction$ActionProcessor.processObject(BThreadedAction.java:68)
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He scored by attacking my legs, and the rest of the match was my bot chasing him around the arena edge.
now THAT Nayar is Ghey Wining in robot combat, nobody likes a sandbagger... should take up R/C racing instead of combat
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Twas the winner.
I lost to him in Round 2 with my new hammer bot.
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@Redline
Well, it's a doubleface:
- nice side: I'm happy because You probably will fix all your problem after download package 1-34-02 from DOWNLOAD section: http://www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org) (I checked right now: seems to work well)
- bad side: how many other people download "old" version 1.34 from "old" web site and quit the game because it crash?
@Badnick: everyone loose vs nednill at least one time. Poor Ned is always greatful..... Don't worry about it :mrgreen:
@system32: hhhmmm .... Aspo 2035 (winner) met:
1st round: Tankazoid (I didn't touch him at all. It just crash towards a wall)
2nd round: Maniac Surgeon (Badnick). Do You know guy? That bot could even win the tourney. Sometimes it still beat me!!
3rd round : myself (Alter 1289)
4th round: Greenmeanielight (Phantom2000)
So, who are You? perhaps myself :mrgreen:
OK,I'll go back to RA2...
BTW: I'll open a Roboforge Challenge Room this night. If someone want some kick...
:evilsmile:
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Hmm, I was using Hykonetos.
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@Badnick: everyone loose vs nednill at least one time. Poor Ned is always greatful..... Don't worry about it :mrgreen:
Exept me, I never lost against him, just failed to destroy him a few times.
Also, whenever Im deleting a bot I dont want it just asks me Do I want to? And I answer Yes, then It just says instantly Bot deleting failed, Cancelling Deletion...
After that I cant see the bot in Open Bot, but sometimes I can see the supposedly deleted ones when I choose an opponent...
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@system32: hhhmmm .... Aspo 2035 (winner) met:
1st round: Tankazoid (I didn't touch him at all. It just crash towards a wall)
2nd round: Maniac Surgeon (Badnick). Do You know guy? That bot could even win the tourney. Sometimes it still beat me!!
3rd round : myself (Alter 1289)
4th round: Greenmeanielight (Phantom2000
BTW: I'll open a Roboforge Challenge Room this night. If someone want some kick...
:evilsmile:
I'd fight you if my computer were'nt so darn laggy right now.
And maybe S32 was talking about the Alter? you have so many killers I lost track :P
And who made Tankazoid? (Just curious)
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Hey BadNick, You re-created completly (or a significative part) of a stick-bot (body, chassis, mod. AI) !!! Are You really a new bie :eek: ?
Nah, I found a hammer bot download on the Roboforge site and edited it a little.
You are now sentenced to death by the Rooty Tooty Aim and Shooty.
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Thank you for stealing my joke and misspelling it.
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Misspelling?
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It's the Rooty Tooty Aim AND Shooty.
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This game sounds interesting.
*Downloads*
*Tries it out*
D;
...Any way to go fullscreen?
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@Redline
Well, it's a doubleface:
- nice side: I'm happy because You probably will fix all your problem after download package 1-34-02 from DOWNLOAD section: http://www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org) (I checked right now: seems to work well)
- bad side: how many other people download "old" version 1.34 from "old" web site and quit the game because it crash?
That's great! I'll get to downloading it and see how it goes.
The problem with people going for 1.34 is that the old Roboforge site is still technically the official one - the Robot Arena 2 one may be active yet dead, but atleast it links people to Gametechmods through the Forum link. Something needs to be done to the old website to bring a link to the new one. I don't know.
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@System32
So You met Alter and not Aspo ... and You haven't leg in your bot (it's an hoover chassis) ... and Alter wasn't scared by Hyconetos, just controlled the situation
hhhmmm... let's count:
1) Alter and not Aspo
2) no legs
3) no scares
Total 3 lies... hhmmm.... Prince of Lies.... I can do much better:
1) I had 10000 girlfried
2) I drive a Ferrari
3) I'm a Genius
:mrgreen:
no seriously... :claping Congrats because You made your own bot in a short time and it has a wondeful RA2 look.
I'm trying to do the opposite: Creating a RA2 Aspo (not so far from 1st crappy version)
@Somestrangeguy
Congrats! You detected a well known RF bug. :claping
Anyway if You want to delete a bot:
- Workshop
- click on open bot
- select bot
- click on Delete (confirm Yes) (.... and up to here there's nothing strange)
- Ignore the message "Could not delete bot" (OK)
- Click on "X" Right (even the hourglass is still "running") --> You will leave Workshop, but the bot will be cancelled
@Badnick
Yeah Tankazoid
I avoided to write the name because the name is (not kidding): "JustinBeiberWishesHeHadMy...."
@Hydro
You could but RF guros says that windowed mode looks much more stable (I use fullscreen in my old Pentium4, I can't see any difference).
Anyway if You want to have a try:
- open an empty txt file (let's say Fullmode.txt") inside the Roboforge installation folder
- write the following: procaff /run 2 roboforge.exe (as I assume You are using a multicore CPU)
- save the file and rename it as Fullmode.cmd
- double click on cmd file
@Redline
Yes, I "arranged" the new web site and I'm in contact with the old web site admnistrator to replace it with new one (I mailed him yestarday all files)
I also purposed a "fast" redirect to new site, but He said it's not possible. Really don't know why.
@You all.
1. This community is much more "vital" then "sleeping" RF community (and I stop this thing here because I really don't want to be offensive)
2. Now I remind Why I like so much RF: because I'm toooo bad with any kind of controller (keyboard included)
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I'm trying to do the opposite: Creating a RA2 Aspo (not so far from 1st crappy version)
I tried to in DSL, failed because of weapon instability
@Badnick
Yeah Tankazoid
I avoided to write the name because the name is (not kidding): "JustinBeiberWishesHeHadMy...."
Really? lol
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DP
Entered a FlyWeight tourney with my new bot, called Malignant Virus.
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(as I assume You are using a multicore CPU)
No I am not. I'm using a Pentium 4.
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Yay! I have now learned how to create good AI so Turbo Ninja won't lose to Nednil again!
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@Hydro: well, with a P4 theoretically You just need to double click on roboforge.exe to get a fullscreen run. I do this with my old P4 (even RF fullscreeen mode is a little bit invasive)
Ok, I've made my RA2 Aspo (picture attached) but ...
... I'm a nut .Even I tried to read some tutorial I didn't find replies to my question, so I'm a a nut and I place here (out of topics, sorry) some questions:
1. I put all my efforts to stay in Middleweight but I feel that some bot in Event Schedul are not Middleweight. Where can I see the class of the opponents in Event Schedul?
2. Now some of You know what AI means for RF. Is possible to do something similar with RA2?
3. How can I battle someone online? Do I really need to install Hamachi or GameSpy is still active?
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@Hydro: well, with a P4 theoretically You just need to double click on roboforge.exe to get a fullscreen run. I do this with my old P4 (even RF fullscreeen mode is a little bit invasive)
Alright.
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I just downloaded Roboforge again and it won't run.
I installed it correctly, chose all of the correct options and when I double click on the shortcut it comes up with a small black box. Then it closes the black box and it won't run.
Help?
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(https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4206.0;attach=1853;image)
This is cool.
In order to improve it, download the DSL Total Conversion Mod. It is the commonly used mod and has lots more components to work with.
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S_M? wrong thread? :D
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S_M? wrong thread? :D
Nope, see previous page.
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ah ok :)
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1. I put all my efforts to stay in Middleweight but I feel that some bot in Event Schedul are not Middleweight. Where can I see the class of the opponents in Event Schedul?
You can see the bot's weightclass in Exhibition mode, actually Ripblade is a HW not a MW.
2. Now some of You know what AI means for RF. Is possible to do something similar with RA2?
Yes, but it's a lot more simplified unless you know Python. I don't know where the tutorial for AI'ing is but I know Starcore made one.
3. How can I battle someone online? Do I really need to install Hamachi or GameSpy is still active?
You can use Gamespy if you want, but it's harder to set up battles. Hamachi is the used online gaming program around here.
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@Gazea2
It's correct You got a Dos "black" window, it's not correct that it close automatically.
So, sorry, but You won my list of stupid questions (You already gave me some informations but I just want to be sure there's no misunderstanding):
1. Did You download "roboforge_setup_1-34-02.exe" from "Download" section in www.roboforge.altervista.org? (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org?) Please note IT'S NOT the official web site.
2. Did You select Multicore CPU check box during installation? (As I suppose you are using a Dual Core or higher). If not uninstall Roboforge through:
START->Programs --> Roboforge -->Uninstall
and then reinstall "roboforge_setup_1-34-02.exe" selecting correct check box.
3. Are You running the program through the shortcut "START->Programs-> Roboforge ->Roboforge" created by installation? I recommend to don't run the program through double click on "roboforge.exe"
4. Could you post:
- Your operating system (pls specify 32 or 64bit)
- CPU architecture
- a print screen of the black window (I hope it stay eough to catch it)
- output.txt file (it's inside "..\Roboforge" folder)
@ Squirrel_monkey: Hey, thanks for "this is cool" (I know it's a small lie ;)) and for tips
@Badnik: Thanks for new tips
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Fredd, is there any tutorial for AI'ing Roboforge bots?
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Well, You can start with RoboManual2.pdf.
You just need to download "RF_documentation" from www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org) and unzip the file.
BTW: If You already downloaded the game from the web site indicated above and installed it, You can open RoboManual2.pdf through the shortcut:
Start (windows) ->Programs-> Roboforge->User Guide
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Cheers.
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@ Squirrel_monkey: Hey, thanks for "this is cool" (I know it's a small lie ;) ) and for tips
No really, it looks cool.
It's just everything on the internet can be read sarcastically.
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@Badnik
Hey You reach your fist final, and frankly speaking I was soooo lucky vs your bot. Congrats :claping
@Squirrel_Monkey: Never though You were sarcastic, just too kind. :mrgreen:
BTW:
1.what do you mean for "DSL Total Conversion Mod"? I downloaded DSL TC 2.0 and 2.1 patch for downloaded Game. Is this?
2. I can see a lot of components pack available. What I can't understand is what happen if two players try to battle online and one of them hasn't installed in his
PC all components used by the opponent. Is the bot file so fully self-descriptive including all definitions of parts used?
3. I can see a lot of nice shapes in your chassis. I can just create box or cylinder. How can I create better shapes?
4. I've seen some bot editor available. Can I use them to edit chassis shape without creating my bot form the beginning everytime?
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1.DSL TC is DSL Total Conversion
2.It crashes, both need all components used by all the bots.
3.Don't click "Rectangle" or "Circle". Then just made it point by point. Click to the next screen and move about the points.
4. don't believe so, I'm no expert.
5. This thread is for Roboforge really.
6. There is no 6th point.
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yay for me making the final! 027 actually had a go at building a bot (he made it and I programmed it) but he lost to Boomer in Round 1. oh well.
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How on earth do you ai!
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In Roboforge? Fredd posted a link I think.
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It just leads to the roboforge website
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heemm.. it links to RF documentation, not only to web site
Well, You can start with RoboManual2.pdf.
You just need to download "RF_documentation" from www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org) and unzip the file.
BTW: If You already downloaded the game from the web site indicated above and installed it, You can open RoboManual2.pdf through the shortcut:
Start (windows) ->Programs-> Roboforge->User Guide
hhhmmm... effectively I forgot to mention that everything to be downloaded is inside DOWNLOAD section of the web site indicated above.
Anyway: here attached:
1. A super basic concentrated Guideline about RF AIing (I made it in 1/2 hour so pls be patient if it's not so clear)
2. a Stupid bot with the basic AI described in the document (You need to insert into "..\Roboforge\bot" folder)
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I can't figure out how to play this game. It just freeze when I test battle. Also no idea of what any of the parts do either, they all look the same.
So how do I make a VS in this game?
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I can't figure out how to play this game. It just freeze when I test battle. Also no idea of what any of the parts do either, they all look the same.
So how do I make a VS in this game?
^QFT^
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I can't figure out how to play this game. It just freeze when I test battle. Also no idea of what any of the parts do either, they all look the same.
So how do I make a VS in this game?
Did You download latest version (v 1.34-02) from
http://www.roboforge.altervista.org (http://www.roboforge.altervista.org) - look for DOWNLOAD section.
Do not use version 1.34 as it crash.
About parts:
The components to be connected together are (the order list is not relevant):
0. chassis
1. controller
2. engine
3. sensor
4. mobile joints
5. shields
6. weapons
7. generic components
- Controller MUST be included in layout otherwise the bot explode as soon as You run a test/battle
- if Engine is missing, the bot will not move.
- if sensor is missing You can't detect the enemy
- you can imagine what happens without mobile joint, shields and weapons
About generic componts. They are useful to create your own layout. They are different in shape, connection points, cost, health.
So You can choose the best component according to yr needings.
I like to choose cheapest components, to maximize number of weapons but it's just an approach.
Edit:
About "vs"
You can challenge someone in Challenge room for an Online battle. I suggest to post a message in forum about this because there's not much player.
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Thanks.
BTW, VS means Vertical Spinner in GTM.
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ops :embarr :baby_smily:
Included in Roboforge 1.34-02 is included a bot:
z_alpha_decimator.bot
It is a powerful "Vertical spinner"
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big bump
Anyone still play this? I'm getting back into it once I get my comp back.