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Title: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 20, 2016, 04:32:23 PM
Welp, by the suggestion of Craaig, I have made a showcase thread.  This will basically show the "experience" of my RA2 Building skills.  But first, here is a little background:

I found this game because of Redditbots.  It is basicly any tournament here, however it includes the whole Battlebots Reddit community.  I wanted to join, so I downloaded the game, and started making it.  I made a good bit of process through the first day, from downloading, it finding out how to even place parts, to finding out how to wire stuff.  Soon I made my first working bot, Derpy, who will be shown a little latter.  Now, as the deadline got closer, I made Whacker, which ranked #32 in Redditbots (and lost).  I still had almost no idea what I was doing, apparent in the design of Whacker.  After the deadlines finished, I made another bot called HAMMATIME. Here I learned that you do NOT need steering motors to turn, and you can change the attach points of items.  It was a really good bot, winning a lot of matches against the AI.  However, the original design got lost, and I am digging through stuff to find the original.  I wanted to show the whole community about this bot, so when I saw on the reddit the GTM Robot Wars tournament, I signed up, made a bot with the original idea of HAMMATIME, and joined, and was one of the ones who made it in.  Now, many people say it is not good, but I say that it is really good for my experience.  I am just now finding out how to make a good flipper, and I feel like I could make some really good robots.

Now, enough introduction, here is my first bot, Derpy:

(http://i.imgur.com/VKAnn54.png)

Now, when I got back to this, my bot did not even have STEERING.  Probably because I forgot XD
I did not know about attach points
JUST LOOK AT THE WHEELS.
It fell down a lot
It also did a move I call the head spin.
I could just go on and on about how bad it is.

Anyways, This was my first WORKING bot, and I will show the timeline of progressiveness as I go on.

-Baconus

Edit: Pic wasn't Working  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 20, 2016, 04:40:46 PM
Anyways, Here is my Redditbot, Whacker:

(http://i.imgur.com/PiLDTN0.png)

As you can see, Steering motors, a lot more battery than needed, and weird attach points.
But, an Improvement from Derpy, I can say for sure.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on October 20, 2016, 04:47:40 PM
That weapon looks like something from another Scrapheap Challenge tournament...
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: FaceBagman on October 20, 2016, 08:23:22 PM
Beaters or hammers, maybe? Even extendes & Nightmare teeth? Love the idea, just play around with weaponry & chassis shapes until you refine it! :)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: FaceBagman on October 20, 2016, 08:24:54 PM
Additionally, swap the etek with a shorter motor that can fit above the drive?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Naryar on October 21, 2016, 04:23:52 AM
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 04:30:51 AM
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
You know that was my first tech that could actually work (without being crazy), right?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Naryar on October 21, 2016, 04:35:48 AM
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
You know that was my first tech that could actually work (without being crazy), right?
actually, no. you didn't stated it.

other points on your bot...

Car steering is generally seen as barely controllable, especially when you are AI'ing a bot. use standard motors : you'll see an improvement in speed, turning and general control of your bot.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: jdg37 on October 21, 2016, 05:32:50 AM
Dual car steering does give me the idea that you could make a mini monster truck on here.  Hmmmm...
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 05:54:04 AM
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
You know that was my first tech that could actually work (without being crazy), right?
actually, no. you didn't stated it.

other points on your bot...

Car steering is generally seen as barely controllable, especially when you are AI'ing a bot. use standard motors : you'll see an improvement in speed, turning and general control of your bot.
Yeah, I realized that.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on October 21, 2016, 06:28:03 AM
I'd like to see some of your most recent bots, not only so we can see how much you've improved since Derpy and Whacker, but also so you can get some meaningful feedback. At the moment, most of the mistakes people are pointing out are things you already seem to have realized yourself, in which case it'd be good to see how you've learned from them.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 02:18:04 PM
Welp, Here comes the big one, Hammatime.  After searching for a bit, I found it.

(http://i.imgur.com/zeSnu0b.png)

Here, I still did not know about the attack points, however, my steering has improved a lot, and my building has been improved.

I also had a bit of fun with it.

(http://i.imgur.com/zA41391.png)

So yeah.  It Powerful.

-Baconus

Edit:  I will start showing outsides of bots once I get to Spiky (The Next one) because at this point they are boring to look at.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on October 21, 2016, 02:20:46 PM
I'm just gonna wait until Avalanche comes along and berates him for using Piglets for drive.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 02:21:55 PM
Recommendations:
-The motors you're using for drive there are Weapon motors. Drive motors are usually Copals, Astroflights, TWM3R's, NPC's and the Drive Etek. Change the piglets out for even TWM's and you'll have a massive upgrade.
-iirc the HP on angle extenders is really not good - consider an alternative attachment method with higher HP :)
-Only 1 ant battery? You need a lot more than that!

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 02:26:34 PM
Recommendations:
-The motors you're using for drive there are Weapon motors. Drive motors are usually Copals, Astroflights, TWM3R's, NPC's and the Drive Etek. Change the piglets out for even TWM's and you'll have a massive upgrade.
-iirc the HP on angle extenders is really not good - consider an alternative attachment method with higher HP :)
-Only 1 ant battery? You need a lot more than that!

Hope this helps!

For Motors, I will edit that.
For Extenders, Ill see about that.
For Power:  OF COURSE I HAVE MORE THAT THAT.  I also have 2 20KG Batteries on the other side.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
I have made some improvements to it:

(http://i.imgur.com/oAxFyYE.png)

It has drive motors, slightly worse wheels, and better "Angle Extenders"
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
What armour is it running? Astros aren't really up to scratch for a heavyweight, might want to downgrade armour a bit to up the drive. also smaller wheels would probably help :)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on October 21, 2016, 03:29:44 PM
You don't need to attach the dual perm like that, there's an attach point under the motor so you can mount it to the chassis.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 03:37:05 PM
You don't need to attach the dual perm like that, there's an attach point under the motor so you can mount it to the chassis.
I know, this is not making any changes to the original design

What armour is it running? Astros aren't really up to scratch for a heavyweight, might want to downgrade armour a bit to up the drive. also smaller wheels would probably help :)
I think Aluminium 5mm.
I also think that armor would stay, I would rather have armor that is a bit stronger than have slightly better drive.  My bot is meant to be destructive, not fast.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 21, 2016, 03:42:38 PM
Here is Spiky.

(http://i.imgur.com/hDumWCj.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/5QnBtG8.png)
As you can see, quite a bit of improvement.  I still used a piglet for back wheels, but I used it just because I needed a wheel for if I land weirdly.
It is quite good.

(http://i.imgur.com/BKkogrX.png)
(It also likes hugs)

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on October 21, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
Astroflights are lighter than piglets and can be used for the exact same purpose as the piglets you have there. Why exactly do you need that polycarb skirt?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on October 21, 2016, 03:48:45 PM
I think he used it for invertible reasons
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 03:56:59 PM
Hope you don't take this the wrong way but I thought I'd try cloning Hammatime the way I'd personally do it, just to show you what you could do if you wanted.

I retained the 5mm alu armour you mentioned, and I'm not saying this is how you should build but hopefully should help you along the way :)

(http://i.imgur.com/Bll6MBp.png)

It weighs 799kg so it's super tight and not necessarily super achievable but just to put what my suggestions into perspective :)

(http://i.imgur.com/gzxPOyj.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 22, 2016, 08:37:49 PM
Well, after messing around a bit, I made a good Middleweight Flipper.  It is called Bacon Flipz
(http://i.imgur.com/JOoof7i.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Mzc9fuF.png)
That inside picture has the steel skirt used for the flipper removed just so the inside can be seen better.
It has Plastic 10MM Armor
It is also quite effective.
(http://i.imgur.com/hhjQwpe.png)

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 02:31:58 PM
Hey, I have a lot of terrible test bots that do absolutely nothing!  Should I show them?

(Also, is there a way to make a circle chassis?)

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on October 23, 2016, 02:35:03 PM
(Also, is there a way to make a circle chassis?)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45481screenshot_9.jpg)

no
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
(Also, is there a way to make a circle chassis?)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45481screenshot_9.jpg)

no

How do you move that circle slide?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Thyrus on October 23, 2016, 02:40:11 PM
(Also, is there a way to make a circle chassis?)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45481screenshot_9.jpg)

no

How do you move that circle slide?

Seriously?
click on the circle option by moving your mouse with your hand over it and press the left button. then move your mouse to the slider and left click it again. now move your hand to the left and right to move the slider.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on October 23, 2016, 02:40:30 PM
(Also, is there a way to make a circle chassis?)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45481screenshot_9.jpg)

no

How do you move that circle slide?
Click and drag.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 02:47:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vR0ojXl.png)
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 04:30:16 PM
Ok.  Time to play a small game.  I have 15 Bots (This is to show derpyness, not an actual showcase of building abilities).  Each will be shown, and you will have to match a name to each one.  The Winner gets to choose one bot that they can "steal". DO NOT post it

(To reduce post size, this will be posted as an Imgur Gallery Link.)

http://imgur.com/gallery/SG3nH

Name List (HAS NO ORDER, OTHER THAN RNG):
WedgeFaceSpin
Vamp
MidFlip
Blackness
Crane
Circles
ReachHaxs
Leminion (Loooooong Story)
DUEH
DrumHamma
3-Eyed
Spinz
Tempest
WarHog
HAMMAREACH

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on October 23, 2016, 04:34:40 PM
lolwhat

#5 looks pretty interesting.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2016, 04:40:33 PM
I can't tell if this is a really good or a really bad idea to get people to view your bots
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on October 23, 2016, 04:44:56 PM
If this isn't really part of your showcase, then I dunno whether it belongs in a separate thread, but whatever.

Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Thrackerzod on October 23, 2016, 04:48:46 PM
What a goofy idea.

Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 05:12:46 PM
Oh, i forgot to tell you, ends in 24 hours
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 06:53:26 PM
For anyone else planning on guessing:
Nobody has gotten Dueh yet.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
And now, A IRL CW Bot.  I call it Baconator
(http://i.imgur.com/RcEWoFR.png)
And the Insides:
(http://i.imgur.com/3TIxdmm.png)
Very Compact XD
Absolutely DESTROYS Flippers.
However, against Beta, it's hammer (somehow) got between the disk and the bot, and then Beta kinda just died after that.
(10MM Steel Armor)

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on October 23, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
Not quite IRL yet, lad

Needs a supporter for that floating top axle
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 07:58:33 PM
Not quite IRL yet, lad

Needs a supporter for that floating top axle
You mean for the Weapon?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on October 23, 2016, 08:00:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DwlMLZB.png)

For this part, yeah
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 08:05:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DwlMLZB.png)

For this part, yeah
I seem to have a hard time finding out how to do this
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: ty4er on October 23, 2016, 08:08:06 PM
look at other people's showcases, you'll get some ideas you can use for your own bots
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 08:20:42 PM
Would this fix it? Or would it be even less IRL?
(http://i.imgur.com/cbWGm77.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on October 23, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
It's still not touching the axle, and even if it was, it'd be horrifically weak. Not IRL in any situation.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on October 23, 2016, 08:26:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/25EViy6.png)
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/battlebots/images/a/a3/Tombstone_BB2015.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150814220236)
(http://boilerbots.com/wp-content/uploads/DSC02850.jpg)


Axles on belts don't just 'float' in real life

Beginners Guide To Building Styles (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17443.0)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 23, 2016, 08:28:30 PM
Ahhhh.
Ok.  However, the game is being picky about placement.
I'll be making edits tommorow.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 25, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
Ok. A bit late, but here are the results!

Badger:

F1Krazy:

Thrackerzod:

Real Answers:

Congrats F1Krazy!  If you want one of those bots, just message me.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 27, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Welp, I have made my first Swiss Army Bot.  It is called Bacon Master.

(http://i.imgur.com/NFbchV0.png)
Here is the flipper.  It is good against everything without a wedge.  And reasonable against the ones with wedges.

(http://i.imgur.com/UFY5VMz.png)
Horizontal Spinner.  More around a catch and destroy though.

(http://i.imgur.com/zwulDSN.png)
This is not all that IRL, the axle is close to just hanging there, and the motor is outside the bot (Yes thats a Mechavore Disc).

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Avalanche on October 28, 2016, 07:00:17 AM
The flipper: The skirt hinges on the BSG's ram right through the NPC motors. Completely unrealistic. Also, you should use skirt hinges instead of extender anchors and angled extenders to hold your skirts, as that will give you a better wedge.

The HS: Too little weaponry on the sides of the disk, and Jugglers are more DSL-S, not IRL. I'd say remove the shell panels, and get some heavier, more powerful weaponry on there. TBH, a HS is not advisable with only a TWMR2, so get a lighter weapon system than the disc and stick a DSL bar and 2 hammers/axes on it to see if you can make it more powerful. (Don't take that as absolute fact though, still not sure on the meta other than mechavore disc = OP)

The VS: Your axle support looks way too easy to snap. Use a couple of extenders and some angled 45 degree extenders to make a bar between the base of the tit extender, and theend of the long alu extender. This should make the set up more believable. Also, use some flippermakers to make a sort of cage/protective ring around the perm, as it looks very unsupported. Also, the mechavore disc is way too big and looks kinda ugly. It also is undoubtably OP, so your use of it is not really in the spirit of IRL. Try to use a different disc.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on October 28, 2016, 07:02:35 AM
So we have an unrealistic flipper, a DSL-standard Juggler and an IRL VS. Interesting interchangeable options :L
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 28, 2016, 04:08:20 PM
I made some edits to the Flipper and the VS.
(http://i.imgur.com/CtSzgWz.png)
(Looking at it more, it still might be unrealistic :()
(http://i.imgur.com/RnADd9z.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Avalanche on October 28, 2016, 05:55:59 PM
Th flipper isn't still unrealistic. You are not allowed to have intersecting parts on your bot for any reason unless you could feasibly work around it by cutting slots in parts, but this is not possible with motors or batteries. Use some flipper segments to build a flipper arm that goes over the wep motor.
The VS looks odd. Try and just ram the extender through that skirt wedge and into the chassis (but not into any motors :dumb)) at a 45 degree angle, that should make it look realistic enough.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 29, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
Welp, This happened.  I had Free components before, but I removed it, so it is not the cause of this:
(http://i.imgur.com/dKIafO2.png)

I have no idea....
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on October 29, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
congratulations, you learned that components can be attached to mad's smart zones
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Naryar on October 30, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
is someone entering a juggler into an IRL tournament ? oh boy.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 30, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
is someone entering a juggler into an IRL tournament ? oh boy.
No.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Avalanche on October 30, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
Well, if you enter that juggler you call a horizontal spinner into anything IRL, that is you entering a juggler. Jugglers don't work in real life, so don't try to send one in please.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 30, 2016, 04:43:26 PM
Well, if you enter that juggler you call a horizontal spinner into anything IRL, that is you entering a juggler. Jugglers don't work in real life, so don't try to send one in please.
I did make some edits, but they have not been shown yet.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on October 30, 2016, 06:19:23 PM
Ok, Some edits to the Bacon Master Swiss Army Bot.

(http://i.imgur.com/GOhxuu2.png)
No longer goes through motor

(http://i.imgur.com/5oYhnUK.png)
No longer a juggler

(http://i.imgur.com/r9yZifR.png)
More Supports. Not sure if enough XD
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: -iKa- on October 31, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/r9yZifR.png)
More Supports. Not sure if enough XD

You do know that adding more supports doesn't make it more realistic right?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on November 10, 2016, 08:04:11 PM
Welp, I have a WAY better IRL now.  I call it The Ingot.
(http://i.imgur.com/z8AuFpd.png)
Cruiser Weight, 10mm Steel.  Dropping armor doesn't really reduce weight, low battery life.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2016, 08:40:08 PM
Hey look a tombstone klone, never seen one of them before. And that axle is floating.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on November 10, 2016, 08:52:19 PM
Hey look a tombstone klone, never seen one of them before. And that axle is floating.
Ehh, getting closer.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: WeN on November 10, 2016, 08:55:39 PM
How many battery in there?

EDIT:
Ant battery is useless in DSL 2.2
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2016, 09:00:34 PM
oh yeah ants are terrible in 2.2 and one of the ants is inside the slim motor. Make the chassis a bit bigger and get rid of the useless steel10
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on November 11, 2016, 06:43:58 AM
I'll be amazed if that bar doesn't slice through a bunch of internals too. Great progress though!
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on November 24, 2016, 05:08:41 PM
Made A Shell Spinner.  599 KG, Plastic 5 Armor.
It is Called Cyclone

Here it is from the top:
(http://i.imgur.com/GvS4quf.png)

And Here is the Insides (Excluding the blade):
(http://i.imgur.com/b5lXwiS.png)

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on November 24, 2016, 05:15:37 PM
You could possibly afford better weaponry or drive if you weaken the armour a bit. With a shell spinner, if anything is hitting your chassis then the shell isn't working oh so well. If you get what I mean.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on November 24, 2016, 05:21:16 PM
You could possibly afford better weaponry or drive if you weaken the armour a bit. With a shell spinner, if anything is hitting your chassis then the shell isn't working oh so well. If you get what I mean.
Yeah.  Also my bot is a bit prone to flipping.  First version soooo...
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Sylandro on November 24, 2016, 05:34:07 PM
>astroflights on a cruiserweight

(https://i.gyazo.com/0a201365fe02f2f8c9c0baa96c244d5b.png)

you should atleast upgrade up to slimbodies
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on November 24, 2016, 05:37:33 PM
I would recommend some sort of 'flag' on the machine that either comes through the centre of the shell or is mounted to the top of the shell. Preferably the first, using CF you could put an anchor where the mag axle is and then mount a static 'flag' to the top. This can be used to both point in the direction of travel (useful if you're driving it) and as a self righting aid.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on November 24, 2016, 06:10:32 PM
I would recommend some sort of 'flag' on the machine that either comes through the centre of the shell or is mounted to the top of the shell. Preferably the first, using CF you could put an anchor where the mag axle is and then mount a static 'flag' to the top. This can be used to both point in the direction of travel (useful if you're driving it) and as a self righting aid.
I do have that Aluminium Skirt showing the way at the front, but maybe a flag would be better.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on November 24, 2016, 10:04:34 PM
you should atleast upgrade up to slimbodies
slimbodies a sh**, just use 2wd with NPCFs
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Naryar on November 25, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
>astroflights on a cruiserweight

(https://i.gyazo.com/0a201365fe02f2f8c9c0baa96c244d5b.png)

you should atleast upgrade up to slimbodies

>slimbodies on a cruiserweight

and yes. 2WD NPCF + wide ant wheels is just fine.  i guess you can go normal npc's too if you need the weight.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 08, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
Hey, just a question.
How do you skin Components?
I am trying to make a Steel Skirt have a Bacon Skin.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 08, 2016, 06:09:40 PM
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2358.0

From the tutorial index.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 08, 2016, 06:19:07 PM
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2358.0

From the tutorial index.
And if you send a skinned component to a tournament, how do you do that?
Edit How do you turn a BMP into a GMF?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 08, 2016, 07:01:16 PM
Ok, sorry for double post, but I have NO IDEA how to convert a picture of Bacon to a texture for a skirt.  I have no way of converting files to BMF, and I have no BMF Editor.  Can anybody help me?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 08, 2016, 07:14:02 PM
what is a bmf?
the picture needs to be a bmp of the correct resolution.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 08, 2016, 07:33:23 PM
Ok, I have a problem:

It keeps saying Bad file name or Number

File is s120a

Edit: I'll continue tomorrow.  Not like that tourney is ending signups any time soon.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: kix on December 09, 2016, 12:17:29 AM
What component you need to skin? I can do that for you(or at least try)
Edit: NVM i have seen what to skin.. PM me better..
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 09, 2016, 04:42:50 AM
What component you need to skin? I can do that for you(or at least try)
Edit: NVM i have seen what to skin.. PM me better..
All I need to do is figure out why it keeps crashing when I compile the file.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: kix on December 09, 2016, 06:04:17 AM
What component you need to skin? I can do that for you(or at least try)
Edit: NVM i have seen what to skin.. PM me better..
All I need to do is figure out why it keeps crashing when I compile the file.
What compiler are you using?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 09, 2016, 06:05:57 AM
What component you need to skin? I can do that for you(or at least try)
Edit: NVM i have seen what to skin.. PM me better..
All I need to do is figure out why it keeps crashing when I compile the file.
What compiler are you using?
Can't pull up specs ATM, but it is Windows 10.
Edit: I also tried to just decompile then compile just the pack w/o changes and it crashed.  Others worked perfectly.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on December 09, 2016, 07:21:45 AM
from the beetlebros site:

"If you don't have the CD in the drive, Dummy's GMF Compiler will give you "Run-time error '52': Bad file name or number." Either put the CD in or download a different version of the compiler."

download serge's compiler/decompiler, they are much more up to date
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: kix on December 09, 2016, 08:33:53 AM
Yes.. i too suggest serge's.. they work a treat
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 09, 2016, 01:49:46 PM
Yes.. i too suggest serge's.. they work a treat
Ok, which one is serge's?
Is it the c++ one?
Edit: hello?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 09, 2016, 03:25:02 PM
Sorry for double post, but I have fixed the breaking error.  New robot coming soon.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: kix on December 09, 2016, 04:18:02 PM
Would like to see it..
Serge' comp/decomp is c++ one
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 09, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
(hopefully don't get banned for posting a skinned component here.)
You remember that Swiss Army Bot?
I made some changes to the flipper:
(http://i.imgur.com/HScCb2D.png)
Some Notable Changes and stats:
Skinned Skits.  This took me an hour.
It is 710 LBS, but Alum 10.  If I reduce the armor, and take off some of the extra armor, I could make it a good CW.  Depends on what you think.
The Skirt that used to go through the motor doesn't anymore.
The Skirts are attached to Hinges.
Skin of Bot is the Bacon skin on the skirts.

Beware the Master of Bacon.

-Baconus

(If I get around to it, I might also edit the armor and change it a bit, especially the skin.)

Edit: tried to enter into Cybernetic, got rejected b/c it looked ugly.

Edit: Anybody know what to put if you want a Mechavore disc to be able to pass through the chassis?  I am going to make a custom part that just does this.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 09090901 on December 09, 2016, 06:54:02 PM
just download ra2cf?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 09, 2016, 06:58:15 PM
just download ra2cf?
A bit ago, why?
OOOOOH, ok.
I did it.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: TheRoboteer on December 09, 2016, 07:25:03 PM
Edit: tried to enter into Cybernetic, got rejected b/c it looked ugly.

Also probably because it's not IRL.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 10, 2016, 07:41:42 AM
Welp, I tried to make another bot for Cybernetic, ended up making a CW Hellachopper.  598 LBS, Alu 3.

(http://i.imgur.com/CrriLG8.png)

3 Reasons why it probably will not be accepted:
1. It is Hellachopper.
2. It could look better
3. That whyachi support beams don't line up.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 10, 2016, 07:45:52 AM
stop using that bacon texture, looks awful.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 10, 2016, 07:47:36 AM
stop using that bacon texture, looks awful.
Oh.
Ok.

I need a new texture then...
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: FOTEPX on December 10, 2016, 08:03:45 AM
stop using that bacon texture, looks awful.
Oh.
Ok.

I need a new texture then...

How about instead of just using the in-game texture tools, you export the skin and learn how to skin properly? That way, the bacon texture might actually look decent.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on December 10, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
seriously dude it is not that hard to make a decent-looking flipper in ra2

go online, look at pictures of robots. try emulating one in ra2. you can improve, you just need to put in effort.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: doot on December 10, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
I know Craaig already did a revamp of one of your robots (Hammatime), but I decided to do a take on your CW and make it a HW. This was what I ended up getting.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2127hammatime evo.png)

This weighs 796KGs, has 5mm titanium and has a neater setup for the wheels that use TWM3's instead of astros to make it quicker. The wheels are also inside the chassis to prevent damage, seeing as the ant wheels are rather fragile.

I'd get yourself paint.net for skinning as well as it is a lot better than using the botlab to paint your robot. I'm not trying to force you to build robots in my style, but it would be an example of something that would look neater than what you are making currently.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 10, 2016, 12:20:08 PM
Ill look into it.

In other news, here is a MW:
(http://i.imgur.com/0Pdlm12.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: TheRoboteer on December 10, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
Internals?

Not too bad though. An improvement over your previous bots, though I can't say I'm a fan of the skin.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 17, 2016, 08:56:58 PM
So I messed around with CF and such...

(http://i.imgur.com/5MkgkUh.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/FliqB0W.png)

397. Main Chassis is Tit 3

Probably going to change the color of the bot.

Edit: and make the wheels not clip the batteries.

Edit 2: and make the motor not clip the batteries
You know what, I am just going to move the batteries.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 17, 2016, 09:02:22 PM
I don't wanna sound like a dick, but ew...

The motor poking out looks bad, as does the pure banana-yellow colourscheme. And the random edges poking out at the side.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on December 17, 2016, 09:03:32 PM
learn to bfe  chassis height bro
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 17, 2016, 09:05:37 PM
I don't wanna sound like a dick, but ew...

The motor poking out looks bad, as does the pure banana-yellow colourscheme. And the random edges poking out at the side.
First attempt at an out of chassis robot design, I kinda expected it not to be the best.
As stated before, I should probably change the color scheme.  As the random triangle edges I can probably change also.

I think I will try again on this tommorow.

And also, is there a tutorial for BFE?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 17, 2016, 09:06:40 PM
Complete Tutorial Index (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17300.0)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 17, 2016, 09:07:46 PM
Oh and mechavore hs are overdone and boring as hell. Try a MW hammer or something easy and not so overdone
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 17, 2016, 09:30:43 PM
Ok, Tried BFE, and made a MW Hammer

(http://i.imgur.com/MSfxvub.png)

(I promise the wheels do not clip batteries.)

I could reduce the weight be shortening the bot, and making the armor panels from Titanium to Aluminium, but I have had enough editing for one night.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 17, 2016, 09:35:31 PM
Real bots aren't basically 2-d. Make the chassis mire interesting and vertical, like terrorhurtz maybe
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 17, 2016, 09:41:54 PM
Real bots aren't basically 2-d. Make the chassis mire interesting and vertical, like terrorhurtz maybe
It is 10cm tall, thank you.
At least people are saying it is too short, instead of looking really bad.  That's an improvement.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Dreamcast on December 17, 2016, 09:46:22 PM
Real bots aren't basically 2-d. Make the chassis mire interesting and vertical, like terrorhurtz maybe
It is 10cm tall, thank you.
At least people are saying it is too short, instead of looking really bad.  That's an improvement.

That's shorter than Biohazad.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 17, 2016, 09:59:04 PM
Real bots aren't basically 2-d. Make the chassis mire interesting and vertical, like terrorhurtz maybe
It is 10cm tall, thank you.
At least people are saying it is too short, instead of looking really bad.  That's an improvement.

That's shorter than Biohazad.
Ok, tomorrow's edit: making the bot taller.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on December 17, 2016, 11:10:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MSfxvub.png)


Not gonna lie... I kinda like the look of this
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Virus Bomb on December 17, 2016, 11:32:47 PM
chassis looks too plain, spice it up a bit
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: MassimoV on December 17, 2016, 11:53:40 PM
I like it. If you get a killer paint job it'll be great.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Reier on December 18, 2016, 02:29:21 AM
just droppin by to tell you i love the bacon texture

i like the mw hammer just touch it up a bit
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 01:37:39 PM
Made some edits to the MW Hammer.

(http://i.imgur.com/59sn3JZ.png)

Here are the Insides:
(http://i.imgur.com/avINyMQ.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Jammy Dodger on December 18, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
Teach me good one i love it
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 01:40:02 PM
Teach me good one i love it
Learn the powers of CF, RO7 Break, and BFE,

Edit, just realised the armor was DSA, changed it to Tit 3, is now 392 KG
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
(Double post sorry)
I took the concept of Batman and made this HW:
(http://i.imgur.com/5GItRQl.png)

Here are some insides (Some stuff is missing from this pic, this is because I added them later.):
(http://i.imgur.com/xDnvwxS.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 18, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Do robot wars bots have 3 hammers? (hint: no, they don't)

If you want to play for max efficiency, go for DSL-S. IRL isn't for efficiency.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on December 18, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
Do robot wars bots have 3 hammers? (hint: no, they don't)

If you want to play for max efficiency, go for DSL-S. IRL isn't for efficiency.

Besides, a bot with that many hammers and that few batteries is gonna run dry in 30 seconds flat. Looks good, but Badger's right: it's too unrealistic for IRL and too artsy for DSL-S.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 03:21:18 PM
Do robot wars bots have 3 hammers? (hint: no, they don't)

If you want to play for max efficiency, go for DSL-S. IRL isn't for efficiency.

Besides, a bot with that many hammers and that few batteries is gonna run dry in 30 seconds flat. Looks good, but Badger's right: it's too unrealistic for IRL and too artsy for DSL-S.
Ill have to agree with the hammer issue.  HOWEVER there are 2 black batteries in there, as well as the 2 ants, the black ones just blend in too much.  I might convert it to a HS.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 18, 2016, 03:59:41 PM
put a beta in there
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 04:24:09 PM
I turned it into a VS. This was either a really good, or really bad idea.

(http://i.imgur.com/EbUZ6MC.png)

Internals are the same, except no hammer motors, added some mid supports, changed wheels, and moved batteries and control board.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on December 18, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
I-... I don't like it anymore
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 18, 2016, 04:26:14 PM
It's not bad. Weapon motors are weak though and Mechavore discs make me sad like that.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 04:26:47 PM
I-... I don't like it anymore
I knew the mechavore discs will make people mad.
Changing the discs if 2 more say that was a bad idea.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 04:36:10 PM
(double post again, sorry)

Ok, I changed it up a bit...

(http://i.imgur.com/ulDUaul.png)

(Not in pic: I realised that it was now over 800 KG, so I removed those useless beater bars above the wheels.)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: TheRoboteer on December 18, 2016, 04:42:42 PM
If it were me I'd probably make the discs themselves bigger and the teeth a bit smaller/less stick-y out. Looking pretty good though.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on December 18, 2016, 04:55:58 PM
Actually, I didn't like it because it's not the hammer version anymore
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 05:03:15 PM
Actually, I didn't like it because it's not the hammer version anymore
Oh.

Anyways, other news: Apparently my weapon clipped my batteries, which clipped the control board, so that's fixed.  Also edited the weapon.

(http://i.imgur.com/tvOVL1p.png)

Now I am faced with a decision.  Should I do 2 Mechavore discs, or the setup I have now?  VOTE IN THE OFFICIAL BACON BOWL POLL!
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Virus Bomb on December 18, 2016, 05:40:22 PM
how about one disc with a stronger motor?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 05:41:59 PM
how about one disc with a stronger motor?
Added idea to the poll
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: kix on December 18, 2016, 05:47:35 PM
Maybe an Horizontal bar.. like Ironside 3?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 06:16:07 PM
Looks like 1 motor won.  I tried doing this, I have no Mechavore discs.

(http://i.imgur.com/yqAvcXv.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Probably Rob on December 18, 2016, 06:22:57 PM
It's starting to look ugly. Stick to the axe/hammer variant
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 06:25:59 PM
It's starting to look ugly. Stick to the axe/hammer variant

You know what, I agree.

Gonna change the original hammer version later.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 18, 2016, 06:55:52 PM
(I hate all these double posts, but they always have nothing to do with the post before)

I went back to the hammer design, and had some extra weight left over...

(http://i.imgur.com/NmpJQDJ.png)

It is now a mix between a hammer, and a flail SnS.  The axes do not go through anything, so it (should) be IRL.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 18, 2016, 07:19:54 PM
Make your own hammer arm/head? Can give it a nicely shaped arm (see: beta) with a super heavy hammer head and use some counterweights on the other end.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: kix on December 19, 2016, 07:55:58 AM
Experiment a bit! Try the horizontal spinning bar option!
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 20, 2016, 02:30:53 PM
Ok, I am thinking about making this bot a Swiss Army bot. I made a poll about it. Vote your opinion.
Edit: It will be a bar HS.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 20, 2016, 03:54:24 PM
(Sorry for Double Post)
Ok, looking at the 2 people who have voted so far (not including me), a HS was one of the requested features.  So here you go.

(http://i.imgur.com/qTtdwZY.png)

As you can see, instead of using a Mechavore disc (like many others) I used 2 battle axes. Why? Higher DP and HP, but they weigh more, so they are not used as much.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on December 20, 2016, 04:00:22 PM
Higher DP and HP, but they weigh more, so they are not used as much.

Also they usually look terrible on a HS
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on December 20, 2016, 04:10:20 PM
Not gonna lie, that looks hideous.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Jammy Dodger on December 20, 2016, 04:12:05 PM
Not gonna lie, that looks hideous.
Same here get a bar with some typhoon teeth or a disc with typhoon teeth or mechavore disc
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 20, 2016, 04:32:06 PM
Ok, Which looks better?

(http://i.imgur.com/JNNH303.png)

Or

(http://i.imgur.com/2B62kmm.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on December 20, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
The battleaxe spinner was an interesting concept, ngl. Personally, I mostly just dislike how the weapon motor clips right through the top panel, it's not very IRL and it's certainly not well-protected.

The hammer spinner version looks cool though.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 20, 2016, 05:39:22 PM
Small question:
Would changing wheel motors still count a bot as swiss army?

Edit: No.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 20, 2016, 06:26:28 PM
Made some more versions, some not as good as others
A flipper will not be in the final model, it couldn't do anything because it wasn't fast enough.

Sawblade:
(http://i.imgur.com/g4UWGR7.png)

Poker:
(http://i.imgur.com/HT3x4gj.png)

Drum:
(http://i.imgur.com/lo0xMOt.png)

Anyways, out of all 5 I have made, I am keeping the hammer, and I need 2 more. Please vote on which you think are the best. (I also edited the HS to not have the enginer sticking out.)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: doot on December 20, 2016, 06:31:29 PM
The sawblade and drum variations lack any form of motor protection which doesn't make it fully IRL while the sawblade and poker have those bad-looking flail axes that really should not belong there in my opinion. I think you should try to create a new 'bot as the few versions of the same robot really haven't been working out for you (apart from the drum, which looks good if I discount the weapon motor problem).
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 20, 2016, 06:50:48 PM
Ok, I have the 3 I am keeping:

I made some edits to the Hammer.
(http://i.imgur.com/TPiJSam.png)
The Hammer is the only one where I have too much weight left over. I could add a support thing for the motor...

You know what, I will do that.

The HS:
(http://i.imgur.com/hOx7oZQ.png)
As you can see, not a lot of space to work with. At least the motor is better concealed.

And The Drum:
(http://i.imgur.com/TGFrN4J.png)
Added the lowest amount of support able to be called a support. As you can see, not a lot of weight to work with.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on December 21, 2016, 12:23:28 AM
Yeah, gotta agree, the drum looks nice, and the HS looks cool as well now that the weapon motor is properly concealed. Not bad.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 07:48:17 AM
I need a name for this. It is a LW Drum
(http://i.imgur.com/9Tsoe9s.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on December 22, 2016, 07:50:46 AM
wtf is with those wheeeeeeels
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 08:07:29 AM
wtf is with those wheeeeeeels
Yeaaah, just noticed that they look wrong.
(http://i.imgur.com/a9E8WPB.png)
Better?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on December 22, 2016, 08:21:37 AM
drop the ant and get a better looking support for the drum than the poly extender
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 10:44:20 AM
Ok, I need a LW idea.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 22, 2016, 11:21:41 AM
Hammer.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 12:00:37 PM
Jury Duty:

(http://i.imgur.com/AiFgVCA.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 22, 2016, 12:04:41 PM
give us a full view. The lack of support for the hammer arm when resting looks kinda sh**, as do the casters at the front. And the casters just hanging on threads at the back tbh. I think you cols make cool bots if you stopped trying to force them to be so battle efficient.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 12:12:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tq9BEDI.png)

Fixed it up a bit. It does now have a lack of frontal armor though.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 22, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
you're using too mught weight. Switch the frenzy hammer for a self-made one, reduce the extenderwork, maybe move the drive further back so you don't need the casters. A totally flat chassis is really lame too.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 03:13:43 PM
As a few people know, the next Redditbots is LW. I tried making a LW Spinner, ended up making a MW Spinner.
(http://i.imgur.com/f4hTl3a.png)
Not the best, but its a good concept.
If I make the robot itself longer, removing the extra side stuff, and change the weapon and motor, I should be able to make it LW.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 22, 2016, 03:14:48 PM
im gonna throw up
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 03:17:41 PM
im gonna throw up
Yeah. Its a quick half hour bot.

Edit: I am going to take a small break from DSL, kinda on a creative downfall.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on December 22, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
I don't understand how you managed to make a Tombvore robot so badly. The motor has negative protection, the chassis looks dumb, and the weapon support basically isn't there.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 22, 2016, 04:16:37 PM
I don't understand how you managed to make a Tombvore robot so badly.
Redditbots
Well there's your answer
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 22, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
Because I am creatively burned out, I am keeping more entrees on this thread on hold. If I post a tech before this timer runs out you have permission to slap me in forum.

Hi
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on December 23, 2016, 06:04:51 AM
i like jury duty, you could use a bit less battery and light wheels to get a form of frontal protection. i wouldnt swap from a frenzy hammer since making your own from parts weighs around the same and would be less effective and i kinda dig the casters on the back for an oldschool vibe
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: jdg37 on December 23, 2016, 02:06:10 PM
So realism and lack of design aesthetic aside, how do any of these hold up in combat?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 24, 2016, 03:48:55 PM
Someone Slap Me.

Anyways, MakeshiftHelecopterWithNoTail

(http://i.imgur.com/OV1JN7B.png)

248.8 KG, could reduce the weight a bit by changing the actual chassis armor, but actually not at that much lack of weight. The only thing I think is wrong is that the motor sticks out at one end, but I would just have to rotate it a bit to make it fit.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 24, 2016, 03:53:06 PM
Reduce the length of those armour panels, and use the angled panels on the edges. Doesn't look too bad apart from that.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 09090901 on December 24, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
make it so that the battery isn't sticking out the bottom
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 25, 2016, 01:07:26 PM
Made it better.
Not sure if it is now IRL because of ONE part:
(http://i.imgur.com/dIJQfAA.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on December 25, 2016, 01:56:08 PM
Why would you ever do that aaa
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on December 25, 2016, 02:51:12 PM
schoolbus HS with ruler weapom when?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Jammy Dodger on December 25, 2016, 02:59:54 PM
Made it better.
Not sure if it is now IRL because of ONE part:
(http://i.imgur.com/dIJQfAA.png)
why just why is there a ruler on the bar and please please never do that again as my dungeon is hungry for robots that have a ruler so don't put a ruler on a robot and everything else isn't bad
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: FaceBagman on December 25, 2016, 05:46:49 PM
schoolbus HS with ruler weapom when?

I was thinking more like a 3-ring binder chassis with spikes reskinned to look like pencils sticking out of the front while the ruler spins overhead.

Codename: School's Out Completely
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 26, 2016, 07:04:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ksy5KNi.png)
And it's always the one that people don't do as often that are not accepted.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Reier on December 26, 2016, 07:12:23 PM
hammer resting support is a bit weird but i like the idea
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 26, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Please bin that goddamn chassis. It's too wide and flat, it just looks bad.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 26, 2016, 07:33:08 PM
Please bin that goddamn chassis. It's too wide and flat, it just looks bad.
Badger.

I will not lay down this chassis until the Hammer is complete.

And then, and ONLY THEN, I will lay down the chassis.

It is also taller than Biohazard. saying armor plates are 2-5 cm, it is 24-30 cm tall.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 26, 2016, 07:44:12 PM
Please bin that goddamn chassis. It's too wide and flat, it just looks bad.
Badger.

I will not lay down this chassis until the Hammer is complete.

And then, and ONLY THEN, I will lay down the chassis.

It is also taller than Biohazard. saying armor plates are 2-5 cm, it is 24-30 cm tall.
Well then it's too wide. it's just too flat, for any bot really but ESPECIALLY a hammer. Get ****ing rid of it dude, its ghastly.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 26, 2016, 07:52:43 PM
Please bin that goddamn chassis. It's too wide and flat, it just looks bad.
Badger.

I will not lay down this chassis until the Hammer is complete.

And then, and ONLY THEN, I will lay down the chassis.

It is also taller than Biohazard. saying armor plates are 2-5 cm, it is 24-30 cm tall.
Well then it's too wide. it's just too flat, for any bot really but ESPECIALLY a hammer. Get ****ing rid of it dude, its ghastly.
Once it deserves to be thrown out (Which by the looks of it, seems soon.)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on December 26, 2016, 11:25:50 PM
idk the chassis doesnt look that bad i mean i guess you could make it 30cm tall using extenders and badger wont throw another autistic sh**fit then
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Naryar on December 27, 2016, 09:27:01 AM
Badger, calm down.

Flat and wide chassis is ESPECIALLY good for a hammer because it increases stability. Which is extremely important.

The chassis is fine. Granted, the random wheels on the sides aren't very good aesthetics-wise, but that's not the point.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on December 27, 2016, 09:56:43 AM
Badger, calm down.

Flat and wide chassis is ESPECIALLY good for a hammer because it increases stability. Which is extremely important.

The chassis is fine. Granted, the random wheels on the sides aren't very good aesthetics-wise, but that's not the point.
It's an IRL bot. Aesthetics are LITERALLY the point.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 27, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
Badger, calm down.

Flat and wide chassis is ESPECIALLY good for a hammer because it increases stability. Which is extremely important.

The chassis is fine. Granted, the random wheels on the sides aren't very good aesthetics-wise, but that's not the point.
It's an IRL bot. Aesthetics are LITERALLY the point.
Badger.

I think it would please you to hear that after the hammer version is totaly complete, I am not going to add a different version.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Meganerdbomb on December 28, 2016, 08:45:07 AM
ANCAP bot?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 28, 2016, 08:47:01 AM
ANCAP bot?
If you mean this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/ANCAP_logo.png)
Then no.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on December 28, 2016, 12:21:02 PM
I think he meant anarcho-capitalism (I'll post a picture to illustrate when I get home but your bot vaguely resembles the anarcho-capitalist flag)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Avalanche on December 29, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ksy5KNi.png)
And it's always the one that people don't do as often that are not accepted.

hoo boy where to start

it's 1:42 am so quick rundown: the axe support is slim but tall which looks flimsy and bad, plus it basically is only connected to the chassis in a single 10cm area. the back SNS doesn't make any sense: you have a robot that is entirely based on precise strikes to the front, and you make it spin on the spot where it will never hit anything with the axe? wtf why would you do that? also it looks bland and the battleaxe looks strange on the bot. the casters on the side look pointless and terrible for aesthetics. and you have an incredibly flat chassis which is the opposite of what a hammer should be. thecolours look blerg as well.

edit: also your hammer is perpendicular to the long side, meaning your piston has no room. why? redesign the chassis first and build it not as an extenderframe bot but as a regular one so you can work out a rough shape instead of an extender frame one
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on December 29, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ksy5KNi.png)
And it's always the one that people don't do as often that are not accepted.

hoo boy where to start

it's 1:42 am so quick rundown: the axe support is slim but tall which looks flimsy and bad, plus it basically is only connected to the chassis in a single 10cm area. the back SNS doesn't make any sense: you have a robot that is entirely based on precise strikes to the front, and you make it spin on the spot where it will never hit anything with the axe? wtf why would you do that? also it looks bland and the battleaxe looks strange on the bot. the casters on the side look pointless and terrible for aesthetics. and you have an incredibly flat chassis which is the opposite of what a hammer should be. thecolours look blerg as well.

edit: also your hammer is perpendicular to the long side, meaning your piston has no room. why? redesign the chassis first and build it not as an extenderframe bot but as a regular one so you can work out a rough shape instead of an extender frame one
Avalanche...

I am not being mean, but I have to point out a few things:

First: The Axe in the back. Yes, I know it is not the best looking thing, however without it, I have a LOT of extra weight. If I had something to do with the extra weight, I would sure change the Axe out. But I don't. And by something, I do not mean making the chassis taller.

Looking Bland:  :facepalm: it looks beautiful compared to other bots in my showcase. *cough*Pages 1-6*cough*

Casters: They are to help stabilize the bot a bit more, if you want, I will change them to those colored Casters.

Flat Chassis:
Flat and wide chassis is ESPECIALLY good for a hammer because it increases stability. Which is extremely important.

The Colors: So you hate Batman?

Hammer Location: Yeah, I could redesign that. However, I think that would be for an entirely new bot in general.

Extender Bot: To be honest, you cannot say stuff about this. You have not made a single extender bot. Well, not as in your showcase. If anybody can criticize me on extender bots, the most worthy is Badger.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Mr. AS on December 29, 2016, 10:18:35 PM
ANCAP bot?
(https://i.sli.mg/8NHQO6.png)

Casters: They are to help stabilize the bot a bit more, if you want, I will change them to those colored Casters.
I'd personally change the front casters to iron spikes, and maybe shorten the extender holding the battleaxe.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 01, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bnkn7Cg.png)
Righteous Judgement
248.5 KG.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: TheRoboteer on January 01, 2017, 08:34:54 PM
Remove the front and rear casters and either give the axe a support or BFE it to swing 180 degrees and you'd have a very solid looking bot there.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on January 01, 2017, 08:35:54 PM
Hey, thats not bad. The hammer rest looks kinda bad tho, I would delete it. And I'm still not a fan of the casters, but they give the bot some character I guess.

Overall, a very good effort.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 01, 2017, 08:41:18 PM
Hey, thats not bad. The hammer rest looks kinda bad tho, I would delete it. And I'm still not a fan of the casters, but they give the bot some character I guess.

Overall, a very good effort.
The Support is actually a ballast...
But I guess I could make it an actual support.
Also, I used colored casters, so the thumb is not too sore.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Avalanche on January 01, 2017, 08:52:31 PM
BFE the hammer 180 degrees and use alu extenders to build a more fitting support to properly hold it.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 01, 2017, 08:59:01 PM
Ok, How do you BFE a hammer to do 180 Degrees?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on January 01, 2017, 09:32:36 PM
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=16471.msg646794#msg646794
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 01, 2017, 09:34:24 PM
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=16471.msg646794#msg646794
Thx
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: FOTEPX on January 02, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
I like the name, I like the look... Yeah, that's a good bot.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 10, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
So, I made 2 Bots.

First, a MW Flipper:
(http://i.imgur.com/Cb82UoG.png)
The Sky is the Limit.
(http://i.imgur.com/xaFqdn7.png)

I also made a SNS, but something is wrong with it. Other than the "ring" that holds the extenders together, Something seems wrong.
(http://i.imgur.com/16pSsYt.png)
(I expect hate for this one. There is probably something wrong with it.)

Both have Plastic 5

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: TheRoboteer on January 10, 2017, 02:27:53 PM
If you get rid of the sticking out ballast on the flipper you'll have a very solid looking little MW there. Can't say I'm a fan of the SnS though. Looks a bit messy due to the weird irregular shape.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 10, 2017, 02:42:01 PM
If you get rid of the sticking out ballast on the flipper you'll have a very solid looking little MW there. Can't say I'm a fan of the SnS though. Looks a bit messy due to the weird irregular shape.
I agree with the foment on the SnS. I'm gonna have to tinker with that one, but the basic design is good in my opinion. Just gotta get that weird shape in the middle to an actual hexagon.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on January 10, 2017, 02:53:44 PM
If only hexplates were a thing...
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 10, 2017, 03:51:24 PM
If only hexplates were a thing...
Oh yeah.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on January 10, 2017, 06:56:51 PM
that shade of blue is like the most unappealing color possible pls fix it
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: cephalopod on January 10, 2017, 06:58:46 PM
The flipper would be cool if you got rid of the ballasts and made the wedge out of the front out of those long wedge edges that attach to armour panels so it wasn't so disconnected
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 19, 2017, 07:33:43 PM
Remember those Hammer Spinners?

I didn't make one.

(http://i.imgur.com/8lBgtqW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/qSEv92e.png)

795 KG, the things in the back are basicly so I know which way my bot is going.

(BTW, if you say the red battery intersects the motor, you are wrong. The motor is ABOVE the batteries.

Edit: Wrong 2nd pic.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 20, 2017, 10:00:02 AM
Sorry for double post.

I was playing with Judgment, and found this:

(http://i.imgur.com/yLMF9eE.png)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2017, 10:22:08 AM
Whats your obsessions with casters? That bot would look so much nicer without the casters.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 20, 2017, 10:22:39 AM
Whats your obsessions with casters? That bot would look so much nicer without the casters.
I like casters
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 21, 2017, 07:47:53 AM
AND HIS NAME IS GAREN

(http://i.imgur.com/nmwp3dK.png)

598.8 KG

Edit: I just realized that a spinning move is illegal in boxing.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on January 21, 2017, 12:24:53 PM
>names robot garen
>gives it spinning move
>doesn't give it a bigass sword

?????
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on January 21, 2017, 09:30:13 PM
Huntchback
(http://i.imgur.com/f4sOu42.png)

245.7 KG, Steel 3 Armor.

I might edit those arms a bit. Also might skin the bot a bit better.

-Baconus
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: jdg37 on January 21, 2017, 09:52:12 PM
Something about Huntchbsck's face haunts me.  Creepy lil bastard.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 03, 2017, 03:49:13 PM
I have no name for this, but I think it might be Tri-Axis

(http://i.imgur.com/3i4BnDg.png)

(Yes I know the drive isn't the best.)

398.8 KG, 5mm Plastic

BTW it is DSL-S
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Enigm@ on February 03, 2017, 04:01:08 PM
as a piece of abstract art i really appreciate this
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on February 03, 2017, 04:03:03 PM
BTW it is DSL-S
No kidding.

Would be a good idea to send it to me for Masters Of Disaster.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 03, 2017, 04:04:54 PM
BTW it is DSL-S
No kidding.

Would be a good idea to send it to me for Masters Of Disaster.
after skins.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: F1Krazy on February 03, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
You may want to slightly downgrade the weapon so you can fit better drive and batteries in. I reckon a small DSL disc with four Typhoon teeth will hit even harder, should save you some weight, and you can put like a Lightning spike or something on the middle of the disc so it doesn't get stuck on it if it's flipped.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on February 03, 2017, 04:53:46 PM
...how stable is this?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on February 03, 2017, 05:44:01 PM
That's a funny way of leaving GTM

Anyway you should move the drive motors to the back I think, since it needs a longer wheelbase rather than width to be stable. And move the drive motors up a couple ticks too. Can you replace a few of those ants with 1 black?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 05, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
Kinda looks like a face does it?

(http://i.imgur.com/9MI4PCI.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/uGd9i3f.png)

396.6 KG, Alu 5, and I just realised I have some extra batteries.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: TheRoboteer on February 05, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
Kinda looks like a face does it?

(http://i.imgur.com/9MI4PCI.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/uGd9i3f.png)

396.6 KG, Alu 5, and I just realised I have some extra batteries.
The face of a creature that needs to be put out of its misery
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on February 05, 2017, 02:52:28 PM
Where did all the weight go?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2017, 04:21:46 PM
Where did all the weight go?
Alu 5, the drivetrain and the discs I think

Discs are really weight inefficient when you're only using 2 of the attachment points. That drivetrain seems a bit overkill for a MW HS too, you should consider downgrading that and spending the weight on something that will help you against gutrippers. Those extenders and exposed weapon motors probably aren't going to last long. Maybe look at Thrackerzod's Clash Century bot from Ironforge.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 10, 2017, 06:27:43 PM
Hands Down, this might actually be a good bot.

(http://i.imgur.com/ORU7lEI.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/oA0i72y.png)

398 KG, Aluminum 5.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: 090901 on February 10, 2017, 08:39:06 PM
too slow, too make weapons on the bursts, beaters arent good for popups, and ants sux
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Reier on February 11, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
also its thumbs are on the outside  :gawe:
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 25, 2017, 06:13:53 PM
RedditBots HW is done (BTW 03 Won)

LW is starting soon, lets make something (saying rules are the same)

(http://i.imgur.com/dI39o1E.png)

Overhang. Was too lazy to make a skin. 249 KG

(after looking at it again, I might change the name)
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: NeonCalypso on February 26, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Internals? It needs to have a lower ground clearance for that.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on February 27, 2017, 12:33:26 AM
...it's a box. congratulations
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Mecha on February 27, 2017, 01:00:50 AM
i'm sorry but that's kind of horrendous
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Philippa on February 27, 2017, 04:43:44 AM
Isn't this just Lawnmower with a 10% less sh**ty skin?
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2017, 04:47:25 AM
I think it would be a lot nicer if you moved the drive motors up one or two ticks, to reduce the ground clearance. You didn't exactly take a flattering screenshot either :P
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 27, 2017, 04:48:37 AM
Well, everyone is entering Mechadiscs. I am probably gonna scratch this though.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Badnik96 on February 27, 2017, 05:11:07 AM
no

address the issues with this robot and improve on it. you will never get better if you just give up on a design before you can fix it.
Title: Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
Post by: Avalanche on February 27, 2017, 05:25:18 AM
no

address the issues with this robot and improve on it. you will never get better if you just give up on a design before you can fix it.

seriously theres no point in posting a robot if as soon as you get negative feedback you stop working on it, take the criticism and make the bot better.