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The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« on: October 20, 2016, 04:32:23 PM »
Welp, by the suggestion of Craaig, I have made a showcase thread.  This will basically show the "experience" of my RA2 Building skills.  But first, here is a little background:

I found this game because of Redditbots.  It is basicly any tournament here, however it includes the whole Battlebots Reddit community.  I wanted to join, so I downloaded the game, and started making it.  I made a good bit of process through the first day, from downloading, it finding out how to even place parts, to finding out how to wire stuff.  Soon I made my first working bot, Derpy, who will be shown a little latter.  Now, as the deadline got closer, I made Whacker, which ranked #32 in Redditbots (and lost).  I still had almost no idea what I was doing, apparent in the design of Whacker.  After the deadlines finished, I made another bot called HAMMATIME. Here I learned that you do NOT need steering motors to turn, and you can change the attach points of items.  It was a really good bot, winning a lot of matches against the AI.  However, the original design got lost, and I am digging through stuff to find the original.  I wanted to show the whole community about this bot, so when I saw on the reddit the GTM Robot Wars tournament, I signed up, made a bot with the original idea of HAMMATIME, and joined, and was one of the ones who made it in.  Now, many people say it is not good, but I say that it is really good for my experience.  I am just now finding out how to make a good flipper, and I feel like I could make some really good robots.

Now, enough introduction, here is my first bot, Derpy:



Now, when I got back to this, my bot did not even have STEERING.  Probably because I forgot XD
I did not know about attach points
JUST LOOK AT THE WHEELS.
It fell down a lot
It also did a move I call the head spin.
I could just go on and on about how bad it is.

Anyways, This was my first WORKING bot, and I will show the timeline of progressiveness as I go on.

-Baconus

Edit: Pic wasn't Working  :facepalm:
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 04:40:46 PM »
Anyways, Here is my Redditbot, Whacker:



As you can see, Steering motors, a lot more battery than needed, and weird attach points.
But, an Improvement from Derpy, I can say for sure.
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 04:47:40 PM »
That weapon looks like something from another Scrapheap Challenge tournament...

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 08:23:22 PM »
Beaters or hammers, maybe? Even extendes & Nightmare teeth? Love the idea, just play around with weaponry & chassis shapes until you refine it! :)
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 08:24:54 PM »
Additionally, swap the etek with a shorter motor that can fit above the drive?
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2016, 04:23:52 AM »
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 04:30:51 AM »
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
You know that was my first tech that could actually work (without being crazy), right?
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 04:35:48 AM »
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
You know that was my first tech that could actually work (without being crazy), right?
actually, no. you didn't stated it.

other points on your bot...

Car steering is generally seen as barely controllable, especially when you are AI'ing a bot. use standard motors : you'll see an improvement in speed, turning and general control of your bot.

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 05:32:50 AM »
Dual car steering does give me the idea that you could make a mini monster truck on here.  Hmmmm...

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 05:54:04 AM »
you know DSL bars only do damage with the sides right ?
You know that was my first tech that could actually work (without being crazy), right?
actually, no. you didn't stated it.

other points on your bot...

Car steering is generally seen as barely controllable, especially when you are AI'ing a bot. use standard motors : you'll see an improvement in speed, turning and general control of your bot.
Yeah, I realized that.
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 06:28:03 AM »
I'd like to see some of your most recent bots, not only so we can see how much you've improved since Derpy and Whacker, but also so you can get some meaningful feedback. At the moment, most of the mistakes people are pointing out are things you already seem to have realized yourself, in which case it'd be good to see how you've learned from them.
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 02:18:04 PM »
Welp, Here comes the big one, Hammatime.  After searching for a bit, I found it.



Here, I still did not know about the attack points, however, my steering has improved a lot, and my building has been improved.

I also had a bit of fun with it.



So yeah.  It Powerful.

-Baconus

Edit:  I will start showing outsides of bots once I get to Spiky (The Next one) because at this point they are boring to look at.
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2016, 02:20:46 PM »
I'm just gonna wait until Avalanche comes along and berates him for using Piglets for drive.

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2016, 02:21:55 PM »
Recommendations:
-The motors you're using for drive there are Weapon motors. Drive motors are usually Copals, Astroflights, TWM3R's, NPC's and the Drive Etek. Change the piglets out for even TWM's and you'll have a massive upgrade.
-iirc the HP on angle extenders is really not good - consider an alternative attachment method with higher HP :)
-Only 1 ant battery? You need a lot more than that!

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2016, 02:26:34 PM »
Recommendations:
-The motors you're using for drive there are Weapon motors. Drive motors are usually Copals, Astroflights, TWM3R's, NPC's and the Drive Etek. Change the piglets out for even TWM's and you'll have a massive upgrade.
-iirc the HP on angle extenders is really not good - consider an alternative attachment method with higher HP :)
-Only 1 ant battery? You need a lot more than that!

Hope this helps!

For Motors, I will edit that.
For Extenders, Ill see about that.
For Power:  OF COURSE I HAVE MORE THAT THAT.  I also have 2 20KG Batteries on the other side.
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2016, 03:02:36 PM »
I have made some improvements to it:



It has drive motors, slightly worse wheels, and better "Angle Extenders"
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2016, 03:14:36 PM »
What armour is it running? Astros aren't really up to scratch for a heavyweight, might want to downgrade armour a bit to up the drive. also smaller wheels would probably help :)
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2016, 03:29:44 PM »
You don't need to attach the dual perm like that, there's an attach point under the motor so you can mount it to the chassis.

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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2016, 03:37:05 PM »
You don't need to attach the dual perm like that, there's an attach point under the motor so you can mount it to the chassis.
I know, this is not making any changes to the original design

What armour is it running? Astros aren't really up to scratch for a heavyweight, might want to downgrade armour a bit to up the drive. also smaller wheels would probably help :)
I think Aluminium 5mm.
I also think that armor would stay, I would rather have armor that is a bit stronger than have slightly better drive.  My bot is meant to be destructive, not fast.
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Re: The Bacon Bowl (DSL)
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2016, 03:42:38 PM »
Here is Spiky.




As you can see, quite a bit of improvement.  I still used a piglet for back wheels, but I used it just because I needed a wheel for if I land weirdly.
It is quite good.


(It also likes hugs)

-Baconus
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