Author Topic: superchu's not so insane dsl showcase (Read 2974 times)

SuperchuFrost · « **on:** March 20, 2012, 03:18:08 PM »

these bots may or may not be in exchange.
stock: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,9914.0.html

Mr. AS · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:21:43 PM »

why are you using weapon motors for drive on deadzone

SuperchuFrost · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:23:00 PM »

I have no idea...... O.o

Team 9 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:29:02 PM »

is hydrogen of any use at all?

smashysmashy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:31:05 PM »

Alright, let's have a good look at these.

For Hydrogen, a novel idea (by which I mean cute =3), but what's its purpose? And if you want it to last the whole battle, you'll need 2-3 ant batteries there. But I doubt you'll be able to, seeing that it looks like you're trying to keep the weight under 50 kg. God knows why.

Dreadzone. Hmmm. First, trying to build even closer to the weight limit will be helpful, and always try to make the chassis as small as possible, fitting around the components. I'm not really sure why you're using a poker, there. It would be more effective to protect the front with a heavy snowplow and invest into some more juicy weapons for your horizontal hammers. Not to mention that using spinning weapons on a burst motor isn't the most effective idea in the world, as the limited contact the spinning weapon will have with the opponent doesn't really cause enough damage.

And some more generic advice, the E-TEK motors you're using for drive there is a bad idea. These motors are used for spinning weapons, hence it has a low torque and top speed, vice versa with drive motors. For this, Fast NPCs should be sufficient. Also, in general, monster truck tyres aren't brilliant. Usually the most effective wheels are WAWs, Hypnos, Vlads, Tornado/Slipperbottoms and Techno Destructos (maybe mini wheels. Sometimes.)

Also, what's the armour? That's a useful thing to tell us.

Oh and I forgot to mention, these are not bad quality for a newbie, keep it up

SuperchuFrost · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:32:46 PM »

target practice

<that's hydrogen

<That's you

Quote from: Team 9 on March 20, 2012, 03:29:02 PM

is hydrogen of any use at all?

Badnik96 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:33:53 PM »

Deadzone actually looks pretty cool, even if it is a pretty bad bot.

SuperchuFrost · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:35:10 PM »

deadzone: plas 5
Hydrogen: plas 1 (what did u expect?)

smashysmashy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:40:02 PM »

Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 20, 2012, 03:35:10 PM

deadzone: plas 5
Hydrogen: plas 1 (what did u expect?)

Alright, thanks.

And don't use sarcastic remarks like that. It's irritating.

SuperchuFrost · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:43:34 PM »

plas 5

Mr. AS · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:47:43 PM »

getting better, definitely improvement, but you may want to use weapons with no normals (aka can do damage all over the weapon instead of only able of doing damage on one side of it), try beater bars

ty4er · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:48:08 PM »

it's not that bad as an idea but if you change the wheels to hypno wheels and get beater bars and razors (perhaps angled towards the ground) instead of the ripping teeth then it will be pretty good. is the chassis at minimum height? because if you do the height just a bit higher then you can get bottom protection (titanium halfsheets) and can angle the beater/razor setup downwards more.
for an example of what i mean look at this:

Quote from: ty4er on February 05, 2012, 05:17:10 AM

Fixed:
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~~not shameless self-promoting~~

and you might want to post the armour and how many batteries it has in your post so we dont have to ask, general rule is 1 ant battery for 1 motor (not servos, bursts or pistons)

smashysmashy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:48:32 PM »

Trying to see what's inside there is hurting my eyes. Could you show a pic of the inside with the disc removed? Or tell us what's in there?

And I think I see a large battery in there. I think. For this bot you only need 3-4 ants.

cephalopod · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:50:32 PM »

Can't see what batteries it's using but in DSL all Spin motors only need 1 ant battery to run for a whole match, so you only need 3 in there. Also, shiny hub wheels aren't as good in DSL as Stock (use grippier wheels, like Hypnos if possible). I trust those are NPC Fasts as well :P
Finally, those teeth have 'normals'. That means they only deal damage on 1 specific point of the component (the tip of the spike), whereas some other weapons (hammers, double sided teeth, beater bars, iron spikes etc) don't have these and deal damage with all parts of the component, making them more effective weapons. Other components with normals include pole spikes, chewblades and cutting teeth (the mini ones of what you have) - but people will alert you of these components as and when.

smashysmashy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:51:34 PM »

Backing up what Craaig said.

SuperchuFrost · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:52:12 PM »

i just thought that the rippers looked epic.

ty4er · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »

they do but are pretty bad :P

they can be used in irl building but thats a different story

smashysmashy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:54:10 PM »

Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 20, 2012, 03:52:12 PM

i just thought that the rippers looked epic.

They do, but in effective building they're not good to use. Although it doesn't quite matter so much in IRL style building.

EDIT: Ninja'd

SuperchuFrost · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:55:41 PM »

Mr. AS · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:57:14 PM »

needs less empty space