Suede's DSL Showcase

[Gauche Suede]

Any complicated shape you make, would probably be better off if the shape was made via the chassis instead. The small wedge components still detract it from its purpose. The chassis front should be sloped according to the flippers, and the flippers should be very close to the lip of the chassis.


Basically, everything should be seamless.

there's an angled SS plate hidden by the flippers, and it's very close to the front of the chassis.

[Pwnator]

But how about the space between the flippers and the panels? If it faced something like Hazard, the bar would've hooked to the flipper's edge and away it goes. Just minimize concave spaces.

[Tweedy]

Just minimize concave spaces.

This. You want the bot to look like it is all one piece

[SKBT]

Take a look at some real robots and figure out how to replicate the feel of them in RA2.

IRL it boils down to two styles of flipper. 





illustrated by Phoenix and Explosion respectively.

Take a look at one style and try to emulate it. Flippers like Phoenix are more common in the US and flippers like Explosion are more common in the UK.

[Gauche Suede]

here's how big the gap between the flipper and the SS segment:

here's how big the gap between Hazard's wedge and it's Body for comparison :

and here's a proof that metal hinges are IRL:

@SKBT
you should put GTM's logo at the back of Phoenix for advertisment of GTM

[martymidget]

Nar 2.0

[Gauche Suede]

Nar 2.0

what do you mean?

[madman3]

Take a look at some real robots and figure out how to replicate the feel of them in RA2.

IRL it boils down to two styles of flipper. 

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illustrated by Phoenix and Explosion respectively.

Take a look at one style and try to emulate it. Flippers like Phoenix are more common in the US and flippers like Explosion are more common in the UK.

Pretty much. Pheonix is better at flipping bots over while Explosion is better at launching them over a distance.

[SKBT]

here's how big the gap between the flipper and the SS segment:
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here's how big the gap between Hazard's wedge and it's Body for comparison :
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and here's a proof that metal hinges are IRL:
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You're totally missing the point. IRL building in DSL is all about finding the happy balance between looking like a real life robot and effectiveness. Your flipper failed at one of these things. you asked for advice on how to make it look more IRL and Pwn gave it to you. You then countered it with a pointless argument. Yes metal hinges are realistic (i have them on my 3lb), but how you used them isn't. I provided pictures of two of the best flippers in their respective weight classes. Take a look at them.

[Thyrus]

the metalhinges people use in RA2 are mounted on the baselevel of the robots. IRL the hinges are raised up.

plus what skbt said

[Tweedy]

And also on ra2 metal hinges are ridiculously more effective than they are IRL

[Avalanche]

Haha, i think my beater bars are likely to rip the concave spaces apart.

[Gauche Suede]

here's how big the gap between the flipper and the SS segment:
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here's how big the gap between Hazard's wedge and it's Body for comparison :
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and here's a proof that metal hinges are IRL:
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You're totally missing the point. IRL building in DSL is all about finding the happy balance between looking like a real life robot and effectiveness. Your flipper failed at one of these things. you asked for advice on how to make it look more IRL and Pwn gave it to you. You then countered it with a pointless argument. Yes metal hinges are realistic (i have them on my 3lb), but how you used them isn't. I provided pictures of two of the best flippers in their respective weight classes. Take a look at them.

i didn't use metal hinges for that bot's wedge, i used a skirt hinge like all of the IRL flippers in DSL use.

[Mr. AS]

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notice that those wedges are elevated to the top of the chassis instead of parallel to the ground like you have, raise them higher

Nar 2.0

what do you mean?

basically you suck at irl and should go back to kloning regular dsl

that bot also need some motor protection

[Gauche Suede]

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notice that those metal hinges are elevated to the top of the chassis instead of parallel to the ground like you have

Nar 2.0

what do you mean?

basically you suck at irl and should go back to kloning regular dsl

ok, here's three bahwts for the Hundred Acre Wood team:
1st LW, Piglet:

an Accretion Disk clone. 2 Ants, Pl3, and 248.something.
only MW, Lumpy:

an MW version of Sage's Pulse 2 in DSL. 7 ants, Pl5, 397.9, and the wedge's are as good as Critical Damage.
1st HW, Tigger:

2 ants, a large Puma, Pl5, and 799.6 i think.

Roo will be up tommorow, and Pooh Bear and Christopher Robin will be up the day after that.

[ty4er]

piglet is going to get outweaponed by nearly everything
lumpy's bsgs are really exposed and its going to fail against anything that can hit them
and how many weapons does tigger have?

[Tweedy]

Piglet is also a clone of my MW Illusion of death

[madman3]

Yeah Piglet has about as many weapons as my old LW TRFBD Impaler and that got outweaponed rather easily.

[Gauche Suede]

piglet is going to get outweaponed by nearly everything
lumpy's bsgs are really exposed and its going to fail against anything that can hit them
and how many weapons does tigger have?

tigger have 24 large beater bars.
on lumpy, i think i'll try to either move the BSG back or try to get weight for a SS segment so that i can move the tite sheet forward

Yeah Piglet has about as many weapons as my old LW TRFBD Impaler and that got outweaponed rather easily.

this bot is pretty much the same as accretion disk(does accretion disk gets outweaponed easily)?

[madman3]

piglet is going to get outweaponed by nearly everything
lumpy's bsgs are really exposed and its going to fail against anything that can hit them
and how many weapons does tigger have?

tigger have 24 large beater bars.
on lumpy, i think i'll try to either move the BSG back or try to get weight for a SS segment so that i can move the tite sheet forward

Yeah Piglet has about as many weapons as my old LW TRFBD Impaler and that got outweaponed rather easily.

this bot is pretty much the same as accretion disk(does accretion disk gets outweaponed easily)?

I never build LW these days so I wouldn't know.
Impaler beats popups very easily though.