Suede's DSL Showcase

[Gauche Suede]

Try a Storm burst. VDMA's have crap HP.

And yes, you can ask ACAMS to change your username.

but it sent the bot and the opponent to the void after 4 shots.......

[Gauche Suede]

Here's 2 more bots to finish the NARAI team:
1st is the 2nd LW, Midnight Prayer:

248.8, PL5 Armor, 2 ants. This bot is an attempt to an invertible FG.it fails because the chassis isn't high enough, but hey, i did it!

2nd is the 1st HW, Midnight Storm:

792.0, PL5 Armor, 9 ants. yeah, yeah, it's underweight, but Naryar changed the long-belt perm's weight to be the same as the short one, so i need the weight so that the bot becomes 800.0 when it moves to DSL.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

248.8, PL5 Armor, 2 ants. This bot is an attempt to an invertible FG.it fails because the chassis isn't high enough, but hey, i did it!

And the fact the stabilisers are PLASTIC.

[Gauche Suede]

248.8, PL5 Armor, 2 ants. This bot is an attempt to an invertible FG.it fails because the chassis isn't high enough, but hey, i did it!

And the fact the stabilisers are PLASTIC.

to get Alu stabilisers, i need to downgrade to ti1, which will make it fail against regular popups like DiSemboweLment.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

248.8, PL5 Armor, 2 ants. This bot is an attempt to an invertible FG.it fails because the chassis isn't high enough, but hey, i did it!

And the fact the stabilisers are PLASTIC.

to get Alu stabilisers, i need to downgrade to ti1, which will make it fail against regular popups like DiSemboweLment.

I use Steel Stabilisers, and they are often too weak. I think this design is inherently ineffective.

[Gauche Suede]

Then, what‘s the most effective design for a FG?

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I would say it needs strong frontal stabilisers as a priority.
Drive isn't important but is good to keep out of the way.
I think invertibility is nice but almost too expensive to get, plus you are more likely to fall on your front anyway.
Then weaponry, is whatever you can have. You really want 6+ razors.

[Gauche Suede]

Okay....... what do you think about the FS?

[Gauche Suede]

dp
cause nobody got commentz for the FS, here's a bot and a stabilizer fix for Midnight Prayer:

the bot now have Pl3 armor, and alu stabilizers. The bot falls down to the floor much faster, and it's so stable even when one of the CF extenders holding the drive is ripped off, it still can drive.

And here's the 2nd MW replacing Midnight Frequency 2 in the NAR AI team!:

Midnight St4r is the 4th generation in the Midnight Star lineup. It has 4 ants(but strangely the axles won't spaz out until some of the razors are removed ), Ti1 Armor, and 14 Razors on 14 Axles(yep, i didn't use any hex plates this time )

Now, i just need to make Midnight Sky 8, and then this team is ready to ship to Nary .

[madman3]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

[Gauche Suede]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

i don't want to use hex plates because i wanted this to be original, and i think that Rujak(urjak) said somewhere that less flails= worse at handling sledges.

[madman3]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

i don't want to use hex plates because i wanted this to be original, and i think that Rujak(urjak) said somewhere that less flails= worse at handling sledges.

True, but it makes your bot worse against Gutrippers and bots which can outweapon it, like FS or rammers.
Also, there's no point in detracting the effectiveness of your bot for the sake of originality unless you're building a dedicated artbot/rule of cool bot (like Dom's) or IRL.

[Gauche Suede]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

i don't want to use hex plates because i wanted this to be original, and i think that Rujak(urjak) said somewhere that less flails= worse at handling sledges.

True, but it makes your bot worse against Gutrippers and bots which can outweapon it, like FS or rammers.
Also, there's no point in detracting the effectiveness of your bot for the sake of originality unless you're building a dedicated artbot/rule of cool bot (like Dom's) or IRL.

Nary wanted some original but effective stuff in NAR AI(that's why he rejected the SS i built), and when building this i originally tried to use hex plates, but the bot ended up having too little flails because it makes the bot overweight.

[madman3]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

i don't want to use hex plates because i wanted this to be original, and i think that Rujak(urjak) said somewhere that less flails= worse at handling sledges.

True, but it makes your bot worse against Gutrippers and bots which can outweapon it, like FS or rammers.
Also, there's no point in detracting the effectiveness of your bot for the sake of originality unless you're building a dedicated artbot/rule of cool bot (like Dom's) or IRL.

Nary wanted some original but effective stuff in NAR AI(that's why he rejected the SS i built), and when building this i originally tried to use hex plates, but the bot ended up having too little flails because it makes the bot overweight.

Well, you could get 6 per side (2 flails on each side, plus hex plate with 3 razors) for 12 razors, which would save you 3kg per 3 razors (if hex plates are 5kg, I think they are :P), so you would save 12 kg, then you could add a flail on each side and mount a beater w/ ds teeth instead of the last couple of razors. Might be a little more effective.

[Gauche Suede]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

i don't want to use hex plates because i wanted this to be original, and i think that Rujak(urjak) said somewhere that less flails= worse at handling sledges.

True, but it makes your bot worse against Gutrippers and bots which can outweapon it, like FS or rammers.
Also, there's no point in detracting the effectiveness of your bot for the sake of originality unless you're building a dedicated artbot/rule of cool bot (like Dom's) or IRL.

Nary wanted some original but effective stuff in NAR AI(that's why he rejected the SS i built), and when building this i originally tried to use hex plates, but the bot ended up having too little flails because it makes the bot overweight.

Well, you could get 6 per side (2 flails on each side, plus hex plate with 3 razors) for 12 razors, which would save you 3kg per 3 razors (if hex plates are 5kg, I think they are :P), so you would save 12 kg, then you could add a flail on each side and mount a beater w/ ds teeth instead of the last couple of razors. Might be a little more effective.

so, do you mean i should get 4 flails equiped with 3 razors + hex plate, then add the rest of the flails with BB + DS teeth(or razors, if i can get the weight)?

[madman3]

I'd personally use hex plates because all those flails are a lot of wasted weight.

i don't want to use hex plates because i wanted this to be original, and i think that Rujak(urjak) said somewhere that less flails= worse at handling sledges.

True, but it makes your bot worse against Gutrippers and bots which can outweapon it, like FS or rammers.
Also, there's no point in detracting the effectiveness of your bot for the sake of originality unless you're building a dedicated artbot/rule of cool bot (like Dom's) or IRL.

Nary wanted some original but effective stuff in NAR AI(that's why he rejected the SS i built), and when building this i originally tried to use hex plates, but the bot ended up having too little flails because it makes the bot overweight.

Well, you could get 6 per side (2 flails on each side, plus hex plate with 3 razors) for 12 razors, which would save you 3kg per 3 razors (if hex plates are 5kg, I think they are :P), so you would save 12 kg, then you could add a flail on each side and mount a beater w/ ds teeth instead of the last couple of razors. Might be a little more effective.

so, do you mean i should get 4 flails equiped with 3 razors + hex plate, then add the rest of the flails with BB + DS teeth(or razors, if i can get the weight)?

Yeah.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

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Well, that bot has no hope against all but low weaponed popups, due to low weaponry count.
Whya re you using 3 casters (18kg) when you could use  half sheet which doubles as extender work.

[Gauche Suede]

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Well, that bot has no hope against all but low weaponed popups, due to low weaponry count.
Whya re you using 3 casters (18kg) when you could use  half sheet which doubles as extender work.

ok.

[Gauche Suede]

Double posta

should be sleeping now, but here's the 8th version of Midnight Sky:

Midnight Sky 8 have 12 Razors on 4 BSGs, it haz PL10 armor, and weighs 799.1kgs without smartzone. The bot's wedge is on par with Beautiful Oblivion.

[Somebody]

Looks very good