smashysmashy's DSL crapcase

[smashysmashy]

DSL showcase. First bot I ever made. lol.



Insert Witty Name, I had no idea what to call it, so, yeah. 2WD powered by Slimbodies, Loads of batteries, Double perm,  the heaviest DSL hammers on a DSL bar.... and the armour is 5MM steel.

How badly have I failed?

[ty4er]

Not too bad for a first DSL bot.

However:
Those wheels don't have great grip, try using wheels like vlads, technos or hypnos.
For heavyweights we usually use 2wd npc normal/fast with technos.
Use 3 ants instead of all those battlepacks.
Might want a stabilizer on top and perhaps a few more weapons.
Try to shrink the chassis as circular ones waste a bit of weight, you can even mount the perm externally and have bottom armour (half sheets have a middle ap which attaches to the bottom)

[Scorpion]

You haven't failed that badly, but well done on not actually leaving. (plus, DSL is more my area, so, i am pleased...)

Anyway, one thing that you need to know in DSL, for any spin motor, you only need one ant battery to fully power it.
Yep, that's every spin motor, so even that dual perm only needs one ant. As such, this bot only needs 3 ant battery's to fully power it.

This doesn't apply to burst motors though, just for reference, you need: 2.5 ants to power a BSG, 5 for a small JX, 7 for a large JX, and 21 for a spring loaded beta burst motor.

For drive, i'd say slimbodies aren't very usefull all round, for this kind of design, you're probably best of using astroflights here, simply because you don't need much speed, similair to shell spinners.
Also, as far as wheels are concerned, yellow buzzards aren't that good, you're better off using hypnos here.

[madman3]

It's not that bad for ones first DSL bot, but ideally you should cut down to about 5 ant batteries (just so it lasts long enough) and use NPC Fasts (use the left and right versions) with Hypno wheels. You probably want a different chassis shape too since Circular chassis aren't very efficient and hard to use.

Not too bad for a first DSL bot.

However:
Those wheels don't have great grip, try using wheels like vlads, technos or hypnos. Just hypnos, the other two aren't great for this design
For heavyweights we usually use 2wd npc normal/fast with technos. Ignore this since it will either give you a colossal ground clearence or make your chassis too tall.
Use 3 ants instead of all those battlepacks. Your battery will run out fast if you do this, you want a few more
Might want a stabilizer on top and perhaps a few more weapons. This is fine
Try to shrink the chassis as circular ones waste a bit of weight, you can even mount the perm externally and have bottom armour (half sheets have a middle ap which attaches to the bottom) If you feel up to it try this.

[NFX]

It's not too bad. Every spin motor, even the Dual Perm, only needs one ant battery to work at full speed, so you need at most 4 ants instead of 8 battlepacks. You would probably want something like 2WD NPC's with Hypno Wheels for a HW Spinner such as this one, and you could either try to stick another pair of hammers on the end of the ones you have already, or upgrade the armour if the chassis's going to be so exposed, or both.

[smashysmashy]

Not too bad for a first DSL bot.

However:
Those wheels don't have great grip, try using wheels like vlads, technos or hypnos.
For heavyweights we usually use 2wd npc normal/fast with technos.
Use 3 ants instead of all those battlepacks.
Might want a stabilizer on top and perhaps a few more weapons.
Try to shrink the chassis as circular ones waste a bit of weight, you can even mount the perm externally and have bottom armour (half sheets have a middle ap which attaches to the bottom)

1. Ok, I'll use different wheels.
2. Wut?
3. Ok, 3 ants.
4. What sort of stabiliser and what sort of weapons do you have in mind?
5. Got it.

[smashysmashy]

It's not too bad. Every spin motor, even the Dual Perm, only needs one ant battery to work at full speed, so you need at most 4 ants instead of 8 battlepacks. You would probably want something like 2WD NPC's with Hypno Wheels for a HW Spinner such as this one, and you could either try to stick another pair of hammers on the end of the ones you have already, or upgrade the armour if the chassis's going to be so exposed, or both.

Thanks NFX 

[ty4er]

Not too bad for a first DSL bot.

However:
Those wheels don't have great grip, try using wheels like vlads, technos or hypnos. Just hypnos, the other two aren't great for this design i was talking in general :P
For heavyweights we usually use 2wd npc normal/fast with technos. Ignore this since it will either give you a colossal ground clearence or make your chassis too tall. I havent built a ss in a while so i forget things, hypnos are your best choice here.
Use 3 ants instead of all those battlepacks. Your battery will run out fast if you do this, you want a few more 4 ants then :P
Might want a stabilizer on top and perhaps a few more weapons. This is fine
Try to shrink the chassis as circular ones waste a bit of weight, you can even mount the perm externally and have bottom armour (half sheets have a middle ap which attaches to the bottom) If you feel up to it try this.

Not too bad for a first DSL bot.

However:
Those wheels don't have great grip, try using wheels like vlads, technos or hypnos.
For heavyweights we usually use 2wd npc normal/fast with technos.
Use 3 ants instead of all those battlepacks.
Might want a stabilizer on top and perhaps a few more weapons.
Try to shrink the chassis as circular ones waste a bit of weight, you can even mount the perm externally and have bottom armour (half sheets have a middle ap which attaches to the bottom)

1. Ok, I'll use different wheels.
2. Wut? Never mind, just get npc motors and put hypno disk wheels on :P
3. Ok, 3 ants. 4 ants if you want it to last, however 3 ants is enough for quick(ish) matches
4. What sort of stabiliser and what sort of weapons do you have in mind? 120 titanium sheet if you have the weight
5. Got it.

Look through urjak's showcase which is full of SS for ideas on wheels, weapons, armour, etc

[smashysmashy]

Any better?

[Conraaa]

Better, definatly. But I would get rid of the flipper segments, possibly replace with a vertical extender of some sort to help with self righting. I would also invest in some frontal protection.

[Avalanche]

*Claps*
Brilliant, but, remove the flipper makers, and stick a long extender on the bar.A steel one will do.
It keeps it from being stuck right on its back, where its dead meat.
If the spinner keeps on moveing, it slowly can roll about.
Hey, why do you have STOCK ui?

[smashysmashy]

*Claps*
Brilliant, but, remove the flipper makers, and stick a long extender on the bar.A steel one will do.
It keeps it from being stuck right on its back, where its dead meat.
If the spinner keeps on moveing, it slowly can roll about.
Hey, why do you have STOCK ui?

Better, definatly. But I would get rid of the flipper segments, possibly replace with a vertical extender of some sort to help with self righting. I would also invest in some frontal protection.

I don't know why I have stock UI. With mine the vertical extender might not be necessary.

If the bot is on it's back I keep spinning and in about 5 seconds it somehow rights, is it still necessary when the bot can self-right?

Frontal protection. I'll look into that, thanks.

[Avalanche]

*Claps*
Brilliant, but, remove the flipper makers, and stick a long extender on the bar.A steel one will do.
It keeps it from being stuck right on its back, where its dead meat.
If the spinner keeps on moveing, it slowly can roll about.
Hey, why do you have STOCK ui?

Better, definatly. But I would get rid of the flipper segments, possibly replace with a vertical extender of some sort to help with self righting. I would also invest in some frontal protection.

I don't know why I have stock UI. With mine the vertical extender might not be necessary.

If the bot is on it's back I keep spinning and in about 5 seconds it somehow rights, is it still necessary when the bot can self-right?

Frontal protection. I'll look into that, thanks.

Go over to sages sig and theres a download for dsl, fully completed, with dsl ui.

[ashman12]

It's wise to add a vertical extender because it will be harder to get stuck upside down.

Also if you do it will get back on it's wheels much quicker if it does get stuck.

[smashysmashy]

Cheers Ash,

Slightly improved.



Carbon fibre extenders both adding up to 220cm. Heavy snowplow in front of bot, not too far out that the hammer doesn't hit, but provides protection.

[madman3]

You don't need the vertical extender to be that long, I'd recommend an 80 cm Polycarbonate skirt instead, as it's more durable and weighs about the same.
Mount the plough on the side of a extra-small multi extender (which you has no chassis collision mesh and as a result you can mount it so a bit of the extender is poking outside the chassis), saving weight.

[Badnik96]

Next thing to do is shrink the chassis.

[smashysmashy]

Mount the plough on the side of a extra-small multi extender (which you has no chassis collision mesh and as a result you can mount it so a bit of the extender is poking outside the chassis), saving weight.

Being a newbie, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[smashysmashy]

Anyone help?

[MassimoV]

He's talking about the black and red extenders which can be mounted to the base.