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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #360 on: June 10, 2013, 02:32:14 PM »
drop down to 4 npc fasts with technos or 2 eteks with technos and get more weapons.
How you make Alarm Clock Pizza is:
Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
Step 2: Fold the sauce in 5 slices and put it in the dough.
Step 3: Paint the eggs with a pitcher of a clock showing what time you want to wake up and eat pizza for breakfast.
Step 4: Put the eggs in the dough.
Step 5: Make it flat into a round shape and draw the time you want on it.
Step 6: Put some old steel to prevent other peple from stealing it.
Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #361 on: June 10, 2013, 02:46:15 PM »
I agree, Astroflights are weak.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #362 on: June 10, 2013, 10:57:10 PM »
no no no no no. Get rid of all the invincible halfsheets on the bottom. The slot housing the srimech looks ugly, as does the rest of the skin and the motor supports. Your wheels are too big for that design, the skirt wedge on the back doesn't fit, and it overall just looks ugly.

But is it IRL?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #363 on: June 10, 2013, 11:00:18 PM »
Updated. Removed the invincible sheets. And gave it more powerful motors. Can't make it any faster or else the bot will fly when it turns.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #364 on: June 11, 2013, 05:16:08 AM »
get rid of the astroflights, put in 2 more npcf and make it wider, that should prevent it from gyro-ing
How you make Alarm Clock Pizza is:
Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
Step 2: Fold the sauce in 5 slices and put it in the dough.
Step 3: Paint the eggs with a pitcher of a clock showing what time you want to wake up and eat pizza for breakfast.
Step 4: Put the eggs in the dough.
Step 5: Make it flat into a round shape and draw the time you want on it.
Step 6: Put some old steel to prevent other peple from stealing it.
Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #365 on: June 11, 2013, 06:22:49 AM »
get rid of the astroflights, put in 2 more npcf and make it wider, that should prevent it from gyro-ing

Even so, the AI won't be able to drive bots that are too fast. Well for me at least.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #366 on: June 11, 2013, 06:56:35 AM »
get rid of the astroflights, put in 2 more npcf and make it wider, that should prevent it from gyro-ing

Even so, the AI won't be able to drive bots that are too fast. Well for me at least.

That just requires some modifying of values in the bindings line, turnspeed, topspeed, throttle etc.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #367 on: June 11, 2013, 07:02:53 AM »
Then what's the point of having faster motors if it can't go as fast as it can?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #368 on: June 11, 2013, 07:13:09 AM »
Then what's the point of having faster motors if it can't go as fast as it can?
What's the point of having slow motors if it can go faster? This is why it's commonly accepted to use a reasonably overpowered motor (something like a 6-Mag on a MW HS) for a certain weight class but it's a bad idea to use evidently slower ones like a piglet.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #369 on: June 11, 2013, 07:26:05 AM »
Then what's the point of having faster motors if it can't go as fast as it can?
What's the point of having slow motors if it can go faster? This is why it's commonly accepted to use a reasonably overpowered motor (something like a 6-Mag on a MW HS) for a certain weight class but it's a bad idea to use evidently slower ones like a piglet.

Because if it goes any faster the AI will have difficulty controlling it, sure it can be AI'd to use maybe only half of the power, but that's wasted weight.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #370 on: June 11, 2013, 07:27:52 AM »
...which is why you have to rebuild to maximize the potential.


But yeah, I was just making a point. Best-case-scenario, your motors are adequate for your purpose. A bit worse off is when your motors are a tad too powerful but can be moderated. Worst case is when your motors are too weak even the AI can't do anything about it.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #371 on: June 11, 2013, 07:37:03 AM »
...which is why you have to rebuild to maximize the potential.


But yeah, I was just making a point. Best-case-scenario, your motors are adequate for your purpose. A bit worse off is when your motors are a tad too powerful but can be moderated. Worst case is when your motors are too weak even the AI can't do anything about it.

I'm happy with the way it is. Speed is just right, turn speed is okay, in terms of mobility, it's perfect (For me that is), the only problem is that the weapons aren't damaging enough.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #372 on: June 11, 2013, 07:45:11 AM »
Mobility is fine but you've wasted so much weight in it. An Astro is a bad motor for a Techno, and you've just used 4 of them. You're better off with 4WD NPCF (or 2 NPC and 2 NPCF) and you'll still have weight to spare for more weapons.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #373 on: June 11, 2013, 08:19:32 AM »
Mobility is fine but you've wasted so much weight in it. An Astro is a bad motor for a Techno, and you've just used 4 of them. You're better off with 4WD NPCF (or 2 NPC and 2 NPCF) and you'll still have weight to spare for more weapons.

If I do that, there'll be too much weight will be in the front, then it'll lean forward, the steel skirts will prop it up, but when it srimechs, the front will IMMEDIATELY dive down while it's self righting and it'll be upside down again.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #374 on: June 11, 2013, 08:33:13 AM »
...which is why you have to rebuild to maximize the potential.
If you keep insisting on using that setup, you'll go nowhere. You rely so much on the steel skirts and srimech, you're much much better off making it invertible instead. It's not that hard. Just make the front wheels larger and raise them a bit, then use smaller stabilizers on the edges rather than on the front.

That would get rid of some of the ugly extender work, and should make it a bit more unique as well.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #375 on: June 11, 2013, 08:44:11 AM »
The discs supports won't allow me to stick anything larger than Tornado's on there.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #376 on: June 11, 2013, 09:58:39 AM »
Dude are you even listening

He's telling you to completely rebuild the bot. From scratch. And I agree with him in that it would solve a lot of problems.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #377 on: June 11, 2013, 01:11:08 PM »
>makes extender work tutorial for newbie
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #378 on: June 11, 2013, 09:08:55 PM »
Entry for Two To Tango 2.

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Just wanna know if this is following standard DSL realistic rules (Not IRL)
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #379 on: June 11, 2013, 10:15:29 PM »
So I should start thinking of a rammer?
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