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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #300 on: May 31, 2013, 11:02:34 AM »
dude your extender work is still doing it wrong

Was it the angle extenders? The reinforcing of the axles? The flipper maker?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #301 on: May 31, 2013, 11:06:25 AM »
angle extenders, you can save more weight, anchors, and unefficient weightwise.

Send me your next bot, I'll fix the extender work for you so you may get what is proper extender work.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #302 on: May 31, 2013, 11:32:46 AM »
angle extenders, you can save more weight, anchors, and unefficient weightwise.

Send me your next bot, I'll fix the extender work for you so you may get what is proper extender work.

What can I do about the angle extenders? And what about it is unefficient?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #303 on: May 31, 2013, 11:41:28 AM »
angle extenders, you can save more weight, anchors, and unefficient weightwise.

Send me your next bot, I'll fix the extender work for you so you may get what is proper extender work.

What can I do about the angle extenders?

Flipper segments do exactly the same for less kg and more HP, and as they are longer can save you 20cm of extender work.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #304 on: May 31, 2013, 11:46:23 AM »
angle extenders, you can save more weight, anchors, and unefficient weightwise.

Send me your next bot, I'll fix the extender work for you so you may get what is proper extender work.

What can I do about the angle extenders?

Flipper segments do exactly the same for less kg and more HP, and as they are longer can save you 20cm of extender work.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #305 on: May 31, 2013, 12:11:02 PM »
All your wedge is doing is keeping other bots from hitting your weapon...

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #306 on: May 31, 2013, 12:15:02 PM »
All your wedge is doing is keeping other bots from hitting your weapon...

Although I hate to admit that you're right and I would LOVE to just let my opponents run into the discs, that wedge helps keep the bot stable. Without it, it would probably OOTA itself. Also, it provides some defense against flippers, it doesn't exactly win every wedge war, but an advantage is better than no advantage.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #307 on: May 31, 2013, 01:52:24 PM »
You know what? Fine. Let him listen to Nary's advice, let him take it, and let him build a half-standard half-IRL Toriodore piece of crap and when you complain about the quality of IRL bots nowadays I'll just laugh and chant those 4 vile words.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #308 on: May 31, 2013, 02:12:16 PM »
Get rid of the whole wedge stuff entirely and make the supports wider and farther forward, just as Craaig said, which you seemed to have disregarded.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #309 on: May 31, 2013, 02:46:12 PM »
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You know what? Fine. Let him listen to Nary's advice, let him take it, and let him build a half-standard half-IRL Toriodore piece of crap and when you complain about the quality of IRL bots nowadays I'll just laugh and chant those 4 vile words.

You assume falsely that I am trying to brainwash this newbie to build DSL-S, when I merely help him do a better extender work, therefore saving weight and making his building, any building in any style and in any mod, better.

You can't even give advice so you bash on older, more experienced users, especially when the advice is sound and valid.

You blame me, then I explain how you are wrong, you accept defeat and then come at it again with the same bad arguments.

If you actually gave good criticism of my advice I would accept it, but you do NOT.

Besides, I tire of your false, weak, misbegotten attacks. Wanna argue with me ? I'm the mighty Naryar ! I built DSL-S with my very own hands ! I made whole metagames and destroyed them, at my whim ! You are ignorant and you will SHUT UP !

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #310 on: May 31, 2013, 02:56:12 PM »

On topic..

Get rid of the whole wedge stuff entirely and make the supports wider and farther forward, just as Craaig said, which you seemed to have disregarded.


Absolutely this. Get rid of the wedge and move the supports forward. Here is a quick diagram.

When you hit something or even spin the disc up, the front end is pulled down (when you spin up the back end is pulled down too but as you have that supported, the front gets pulled down. If you have support further forward than the axle, as in my diagram, the effects won't be nearly as bad.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #311 on: May 31, 2013, 08:05:55 PM »
Angled the wheels more forward. Adn now you shall see why I did not angle the wheels, not because I didn't want to, but rather because I can't.







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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #312 on: May 31, 2013, 08:23:47 PM »
Angled the wheels more forward. Adn now you shall see why I did not angle the wheels, not because I didn't want to, but rather because I can't.

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Dont angle them that far forward then, angle them so its just off the floor

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #313 on: May 31, 2013, 08:28:12 PM »
having the wheels at the front is a pretty bad idea in all honesty. it would be much better off if you were to put them at the back and get some static supports (skirts or something of the sort)
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #314 on: May 31, 2013, 08:35:10 PM »
Angled the wheels more forward. Adn now you shall see why I did not angle the wheels, not because I didn't want to, but rather because I can't.

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Dont angle them that far forward then, angle them so its just off the floor

If I do so it would be too heavy in the front sending the bot flying. But the problem can be remedied though with a flipper maker to help keep it stable.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #315 on: May 31, 2013, 08:35:53 PM »
having the wheels at the front is a pretty bad idea in all honesty. it would be much better off if you were to put them at the back and get some static supports (skirts or something of the sort)

That's my HW right there.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #316 on: May 31, 2013, 08:48:21 PM »
Angled the wheels more forward. Adn now you shall see why I did not angle the wheels, not because I didn't want to, but rather because I can't.

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Dont angle them that far forward then, angle them so its just off the floor

If I do so it would be too heavy in the front sending the bot flying. But the problem can be remedied though with a flipper maker to help keep it stable.

Hmmm. I honestly dont know. It would be more stable with one disc if you adjust the ride height, but you do lose a lot of hitting power created by the second disc

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #317 on: May 31, 2013, 09:33:53 PM »
Angled the wheels more forward. Adn now you shall see why I did not angle the wheels, not because I didn't want to, but rather because I can't.

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Dont angle them that far forward then, angle them so its just off the floor

If I do so it would be too heavy in the front sending the bot flying. But the problem can be remedied though with a flipper maker to help keep it stable.

Hmmm. I honestly dont know. It would be more stable with one disc if you adjust the ride height, but you do lose a lot of hitting power created by the second disc

If I make it single motor (Like versions two and three) the weight distribution is unbalanced, so the bot keeps veering off to wherever the motor is put.

Plus, I want it to be dual discs.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #318 on: June 01, 2013, 03:55:49 AM »
Then use a smaller disc ?

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #319 on: June 01, 2013, 08:13:25 AM »
Then use a smaller disc ?

Then it can't hit anything
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