Author Topic: Shield's dumpster (Read 165870 times)

Shield · « **Reply #280 on:** May 29, 2013, 11:14:34 PM »

Added extender support,

Battleshots:

Ready for Poker Night.

cephalopod · « **Reply #281 on:** May 30, 2013, 02:33:06 AM »

Honestly I'd upgrade those Poly supports to some kind of metal because if that was real, that poly would just snap under the pressure.
Also if you have any weight left work on some motor guards and armour around your leg struts.

Shield · « **Reply #282 on:** May 30, 2013, 03:19:23 AM »

Quote from: Craaig on May 30, 2013, 02:33:06 AM

Honestly I'd upgrade those Poly supports to some kind of metal because if that was real, that poly would just snap under the pressure.
Also if you have any weight left work on some motor guards and armour around your leg struts.

As it stands, it's at 397.5KG. Definitely not enough spare weight to add any of those items.

Badnik96 · « **Reply #283 on:** May 30, 2013, 06:08:15 AM »

Why don't you take a multi extender, mount it on the left side of the hole you've created for a weapon slot, and mount an extender off that? That should give you weight for aluminum at least.

IMO its skin is pretty boring too.

Shield · « **Reply #284 on:** May 30, 2013, 06:10:45 AM »

Quote from: Badnik96 on May 30, 2013, 06:08:15 AM

Why don't you take a multi extender, mount it on the left side of the hole you've created for a weapon slot, and mount an extender off that? That should give you weight for aluminum at least.

IMO its skin is pretty boring too.

That's what i did. I mounted the poly off the left side.

Badnik96 · « **Reply #285 on:** May 30, 2013, 06:33:22 AM »

No, I mean the inner part. Not where you have it now.

cephalopod · « **Reply #286 on:** May 30, 2013, 11:08:13 AM »

Where the

has all your weight gone, lol.
Even if you can't add those bits, I wouldn't call this IRL until some of those flaws are addressed. Scale back some of the other stuff you have to upgrade the axle support at least.
With IRL building it should never be about creating the most deadly machine, it should be about making something effective but also FULLY possible in real life, not possible-if-you-changed-this-and-this.
Aesthetics 1st
Effectiveness 2nd.

Shield · « **Reply #287 on:** May 30, 2013, 12:29:15 PM »

Quote from: Craaig on May 30, 2013, 11:08:13 AM

Where the has all your weight gone, lol.
Even if you can't add those bits, I wouldn't call this IRL until some of those flaws are addressed. Scale back some of the other stuff you have to upgrade the axle support at least.
With IRL building it should never be about creating the most deadly machine, it should be about making something effective but also FULLY possible in real life, not possible-if-you-changed-this-and-this.
Aesthetics 1st
Effectiveness 2nd.

Nary told me to nerf down the axles.

And all the weight has gone to the back of the bot where around a dozen ants are there. I can't remove even one of them because If I do the front end of the bot will be too heavy and it'll just flip itself right from the beginning.

martymidget · « **Reply #288 on:** May 30, 2013, 12:40:13 PM »

The current VS Lord has spoken.

Imo people should learn to build DSL standard first, not to amazing levels but in doing so it will improve your IRL building by a great deal. Even more so if you balance the two fairly well.

With a good grasp on both you can make really good stuff- it's why Scrap and his 2nd account (ancient pun incoming) VB are pretty much the IRL gods at the moment.

Naryar · « **Reply #289 on:** May 30, 2013, 12:42:16 PM »

Quote from: martymidget on May 30, 2013, 12:40:13 PM

The current VS Lord has spoken.

Imo people should learn to build DSL standard first, not to amazing levels but in doing so it will improve your IRL building by a great deal. Even more so if you balance the two fairly well.

Very much this.

cephalopod · « **Reply #290 on:** May 30, 2013, 02:13:55 PM »

If it tips forward it needs stabilization further forward - move the wheels well beyond the disc axle. This is where knowing good Standard protocol helps.

Kossokei · « **Reply #291 on:** May 30, 2013, 02:15:58 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on May 30, 2013, 12:42:16 PM

Quote from: martymidget on May 30, 2013, 12:40:13 PM
The current VS Lord has spoken.

Imo people should learn to build DSL standard first, not to amazing levels but in doing so it will improve your IRL building by a great deal. Even more so if you balance the two fairly well.

Very much this.

I disagree with this, and I'll put two examples out.

Myself being one example. I'm no IRL god in any aspect, I get good feedback on my IRL works and yet I've barely delved into DSLS. And before anyone says "son u know nothin about dsls", yes I know that but I have enough of an understanding not to put S3's on piglets.

Domanating is the second example. And yes, I know, IRL isn't his main building point (though it's worth pointing out when he does do IRL it's pretty sweet) but he's barely delved into DSLS and he builds some incredibly wicked sick bots and clearly has an understanding of the game.

090901 · « **Reply #292 on:** May 30, 2013, 02:52:09 PM »

Quote from: Kossokei on May 30, 2013, 02:15:58 PM

Quote from: Naryar on May 30, 2013, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: martymidget on May 30, 2013, 12:40:13 PM
The current VS Lord has spoken.

Imo people should learn to build DSL standard first, not to amazing levels but in doing so it will improve your IRL building by a great deal. Even more so if you balance the two fairly well.

Very much this.
I disagree with this, and I'll put two examples out.

Myself being one example. I'm no IRL god in any aspect, I get good feedback on my IRL works and yet I've barely delved into DSLS. And before anyone says "son u know nothin about dsls", yes I know that but I have enough of an understanding not to put S3's on piglets.

Domanating is the second example. And yes, I know, IRL isn't his main building point (though it's worth pointing out when he does do IRL it's pretty sweet) but he's barely delved into DSLS and he builds some incredibly wicked sick bots and clearly has an understanding of the game.

Not everybody is the same though, you have to remember this. Some people may learn better from building normal DSL 2.1 first, since it helps with learning chassis space management, extender work, getting a better understanding of the parts and with giving bots just the right amount of power.
I doubt people like ty4er, myself, massimov, tweedy, marty, conraaaaaaaaa, etc. would be as good as they are now with building IRL stuff if then had not started DSL 2.1 first.

MassimoV · « **Reply #293 on:** May 30, 2013, 03:28:21 PM »

Scrap and Click too. But Kossokei, let's see your IRL record shall we...

Naryar · « **Reply #294 on:** May 30, 2013, 03:42:11 PM »

Koss you have no significant experience in DSL realistic whatsoever, and yet you judge...

Shield · « **Reply #295 on:** May 30, 2013, 08:47:33 PM »

Alright, ATM I have three versions of SoH. And I'm having trouble deciding which would be best to keep.

This is the original version:

It has trouble self righting. But it is much more stable than version two.

The second version:

Better motor? I really can't see the pros in choosing this one.

The latest version:

This version also comes with reinforced axles, a feature the previous to versions lacked.

Motor speed is slightly faster than the perm.

Shield · « **Reply #296 on:** May 30, 2013, 10:59:03 PM »

Settled on the original and made this:

It also has axle supports as well as a little flipper maker to make it stable.

Insides:

helloface · « **Reply #297 on:** May 31, 2013, 10:35:13 AM »

I like the newest one. Stick with that.

Shield · « **Reply #298 on:** May 31, 2013, 10:46:43 AM »

Quote from: heckoface199 on May 31, 2013, 10:35:13 AM

I like the newest one. Stick with that.

It's the only version that DOESN'T tilt forward and fly around at the beginning of the fight, and it has a little wedge as a bonus too.

Naryar · « **Reply #299 on:** May 31, 2013, 10:49:35 AM »

dude your extender work is still doing it wrong