Author Topic: russian roulette's revolvers (Read 30869 times)

russian roulette · « **Reply #120 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:07:24 PM »

And how will I afford 4 Taz Weapons, 4 BSG's, enough battery to power the thing and be left with 800 KG, and still be combat effective, maybe for a SHW but now I'm focusing on the HW.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #121 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:12:49 PM »

Well, a HW flipper can have 8 BSGs easily.

Naryar · « **Reply #122 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:13:53 PM »

Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on June 17, 2011, 02:04:35 PM

BTW 4 BSGs are better that 1 Beta.

Not when you are using taz weapons. They're 60 kg IIRC, how can you expect a BSg to lift 60 kg with enough power to flip well ?

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #123 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:15:36 PM »

Oh, i always remembered it being lighter. Maybe 2 large JXs?

Naryar · « **Reply #124 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:17:16 PM »

Actually 4 BSGs and the battery power needed (12 ants) are lighter and more compound than 1 beta and it's 3+ necessary PC625's...

But this is no design for BSGs.

2 large JX's is also possible but will be better with three.

The Ounce · « **Reply #125 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:26:00 PM »

2 large JXs wouldn't be enough. I think it would be best to use 3 large JXs and 3 weapons (a la Mercurius, but it didn't have the best flipping power IIRC).

Also, Tazbot weapons weigh 50 kilos, so yes S_M is right about them being lighter, but they're still too heavy for a BSG.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #126 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:29:34 PM »

Quote from: The Ounce on June 17, 2011, 02:26:00 PM

Also, Tazbot weapons weigh 50 kilos, so yes S_M is right about them being lighter, but they're still too heavy for a BSG.

At least I'm not going mad.

russian roulette · « **Reply #127 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:40:07 PM »

I tried the Angular wedges and they turned out just how I thought, utter crap. They glitch under the arena floors and have a weirder mesh. ..
Take a look...

They cant even get under the lockers in the test garage.

G.K. · « **Reply #128 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:57:25 PM »

Normally, they are better.

russian roulette · « **Reply #129 on:** June 17, 2011, 04:30:17 PM »

Playing around with X-Press's Chassis... somestrangeguy better be ready if there is ever an Amazing Rage Heavyweight Edition
Delta Delta Delta

Originally had a Saw Saw Saw
Then I changed It It It
Saturday Night Live Live Live?

Now here is a awesome design, I think Pwn made it.
Even with an NPC Fast as a weapon motor, it rocks.
EyE PHELTA THI

More to come along...

Naryar · « **Reply #130 on:** June 17, 2011, 05:32:52 PM »

Angled wedges are better, it's just that AGOD tricked you.

Vertigo · « **Reply #131 on:** June 17, 2011, 05:50:35 PM »

Hai AGOD :P

russian roulette · « **Reply #132 on:** June 17, 2011, 08:50:29 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on June 17, 2011, 05:32:52 PM

Angled wedges are better, it's just that AGOD tricked you.

I'll try again tomorrow, too tired of rebuilding everyone of my good showcased bots.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #133 on:** June 17, 2011, 09:16:40 PM »

Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on June 17, 2011, 02:04:35 PM

BTW 4 BSGs are better that 1 Beta.

WRONG

BSG/R (0 35 60 -24.5) 25kg and 1.717 e/kg, 40.925kg and 1.466 e/kg with ant
Beta Burst Spring (20 11 350 -210) 80kg and 2.117 e/kg, 216.6kg and 1.617 e/kg with ant

Not only do BSG have LESS torque/kg before and after adjusting for ants, 4 BSG only provides 240 torque while 1 beta 350.

So you just have to deal with the fact that Beta is way better at flipping. It's the enormous size and base only connection that make it suck.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #134 on:** June 17, 2011, 11:53:33 PM »

Quote from: 123savethewhales on June 17, 2011, 09:16:40 PM

It's the enormous size and base only connection that make it suck.

The second is debatable.. you can have a burst poke out of the top of the robot that is indestructible..

123savethewhales · « **Reply #135 on:** June 17, 2011, 11:59:33 PM »

Quote from: JoeBlo on June 17, 2011, 11:53:33 PM

Quote from: 123savethewhales on June 17, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
It's the enormous size and base only connection that make it suck.

The second is debatable.. you can have a burst poke out of the top of the robot that is indestructible..

No there's no debate, that thing has 400 HP. Which means it smokes up in 1 hit.

You also cannot stick anything out except for the hinge, which is like every other motor in the game. Alll the other stuff you see sticking out are just graphics. They have no real collision mesh.

G.K. · « **Reply #136 on:** June 18, 2011, 02:23:01 AM »

Which is why they get stuck in the floor?

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #137 on:** June 18, 2011, 03:12:10 AM »

How come in testing, 4 BSGs flip higher and further than 1 beta? Just ask Vertigo, he's made loads of flippers.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #138 on:** June 18, 2011, 03:54:38 AM »

Hey weird stuff happens in this game. And if there's one thing I know it's that numbers can mean nothing. Like literally some numbers does nothing at all.

russian roulette · « **Reply #139 on:** June 18, 2011, 05:36:06 AM »

Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on June 18, 2011, 03:12:10 AM

How come in testing, 4 BSGs flip higher and further than 1 beta? Just ask Vertigo, he's made loads of flippers.

Listen, the reason I don't use BSGs for that bot is because I use taz weapons for it, how many times do I have to say it? I will make one using Large JX's to see if they are any better but if I hear any more talk about BSGs I will stick a gun in my mouth