rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap

[rnifnuf]

the latter doesn't have enough reach to do anything as an sns

I decided to scrap the design of the SnS as it really doesn't work with the current setup.

But hey, at least I know how to Heavyweight Shell Spinner.

...right? Armor is Plastic 5.

Contrary to its brother, Sine Strategy, Razor Wall... is exactly what it sounds like. A spinning wall of razors.

Well, they said "moar razors," so I added moar razors to it.

Razor Wall was a slightly more difficult build than Sine Strategy because of all of the flails. Other than that, it was fairly smooth sailing for building it.

SUMMARY

Name: Razor Wall
Weight class: Heavyweight
Bot type: Shell Spinner
Armor: 5mm plastic
Weapon: 24 Razors on flails
Battery: 4 ants
Drive: 2WD NPCF+Hypnos
Weapon power: Dual Perm

ADVANTAGES:

+FSS with razors. 'Nuff said.

DISADVANTAGES:

-Sluggish drive
-Popup food

Thoughts?

[Enigm@]

it's really generic for a shell

[Naryar]

If it's his first non-suck shell spinner, it's fine.

[rnifnuf]

Bubble my boiler and call me a grumpy puffball, I say that flippers aren't dead! Not with DSL3, at least.


Armor is Steel 3 (DSL3), there are 4 longs and 1 ant battery hiding behind the springy beta (the entire bot setup is symmetrical). Also those are TWM3R2 Drives.

Meet Botapult, the flipper that is actually not bad. This is all you need to see, combined with the knowledge that the bot is symmetrical (see above statement), to know the whole setup of the bot. The only thing that isn't clear is the control board... its a small board hidden behind the springy beta.

I wanted to build a heavyweight flipper that can actually put up a fight. I think I have succeeded. It either flips the opponent out of the arena or destroys/immobilizes it beforehand.

SUMMARY:

Name: Botapult
Weight class: Heavyweight
Bot type: Flipper with weapons
Armor: 3mm Steel
Weapon: 5 Spike strips on a flipper
Battery: 8 longs and 4 ants
Drive: 2WD TWM3R2 Drive + Technos
Weapon power: Spring loaded Beta motor

ADVANTAGES:
+Good weapons
+Powerful flipper
+Can self-right
+Also invertible (not that it helps, but okay)
+Pretty fast
+Wedgy
+Gets up with the get down

DISADVANTAGES:
-Weak armor
-Sometimes, bots have trouble getting on the flipper
-Vulnerable to attacks from HS

Thoughts?

[Naryar]

I like the design a lot but the concept is executed rather poorly. Here's what you need to make it better.
-Make it wider
-Put your motors next to the batteries & make a simpler chassis, and save weight
-Less pointless wheelguards, and more front armor
-You need a much stronger front weapon. Hide it under the front armor if needed.
-Use big, high-amp batteries when you have betas in your bot.

Not so sure that you need a drive that fast but then again fast weaponed flippers are good.

[rnifnuf]

Like this? Armor is Titanium 5.

This is a complete rebuild of Botavator. I am calling it "Botavator" instead of "Botapult" now because I have a better idea for a bot named "Botapult".

I beefed up the battery power quite a bit. Now it is powered by 3 oranges and 2 reds. The drive is the same, the weapon is the same, the wedge is the same, the wheel guards are not the same. I made the wheel guards out of 60x60 and 60x100 plates instead of two 40x80 plates like before.

Now it takes hits from other bots much better than before. I'll likely add armor directly under the flipper on the front of the chassis at a later point, though. When the flipper is up, the front is vulnerable to attacks.

SUMMARY CHANGES:
Armor: 5mm Titanium
Battery: 3 oranges (PC545) and 2 reds (Battlepacks)

NEW ADVANTAGES:
+Good wheel guards
+Better armor

NEW DISADVANTAGES:
-Exposed front when flipper is fired

Thoughts?

[Naryar]

Better, still you didn't improved the flipper's toughness.

Also I would just use 5mm Plastic or something and put armor plates on the front. Also, you must either strengthen your flipper or hide it under a layer of armor.

Because atm 2-3 hits from any solid bots are enough to severely weaken or even completely destroy the functionality of your flipper.

[rnifnuf]

Better, still you didn't improved the flipper's toughness.

Also I would just use 5mm Plastic or something and put armor plates on the front. Also, you must either strengthen your flipper or hide it under a layer of armor.

Because atm 2-3 hits from any solid bots are enough to severely weaken or even completely destroy the functionality of your flipper.

Done. Armor is Plastic 3.

Its kinda hard to see, but I added a 60x120 lexan plate in front of the chassis. The flipper is now an 80x80 steel plate with some spike strips in it. I actually eFFed the spike strips on before adding the steel plate. That sixth spike strip is partially there to help with self-righting.


SUMMARY CHANGES:
Armor: 3mm Plastic
Weapon: 6 Spike strips on a flipper.

ADVANTAGES:
+Really good at self-righting
+Sturdy flipper
+Protected flipper

DISADVANTAGES:
-Meager armor

On a scale of 1-10, how right am I doing it? 1 means that I should calmly and quietly ragequit, while 10 means that I am Naryar's long lost twin brother.

[MassimoV]

Flipper seems awfully steep.

[rnifnuf]

Time toe duste offe ye olde showcase.


Armor is Plastic 5.
I was playing DSL3 when I made this BW rammer. It is currently nameless and stuff. And stuff.

SUMMARY:

Name: ???
Weight class: Beetleweight
Bot Type: Rammer
Armor: Plastic 5
Weapon: 6 Light Double-Sided Teeth and 2 Cutting Teeth
Battery: 2 ants
Drive: 2WD TWM3R with Hypnos
Weapon power: Drive

ADVANTAGES:
+Good weapons
+Fast
+Pretty good armor

DISADVANTAGES:
-Poor battery life
-The unwedgiest unwedge that ever unwedged

Thoughts?

[Schrikvis]

It looks underpowered to me, not sure how you could fix that though.

[Naryar]

It would benefit from 1 extra ant for sure. It has enough amps, but electotal is lacking...

[rnifnuf]

It would benefit from 1 extra ant for sure. It has enough amps, but electotal is lacking...

You know what it would benefit from even more?

A battlepack. Armor is Titanium 3

I completely redid the chassis to make this possible. Here are some calculations to show that this was a good idea:

3 Ants (DSL3) x 5523 Electoral/ant=16569 electoral for 18kgs
1 Battlepack (DSL3) x 17042 Electoral/battlepack=17042 electoral for 15kgs

103% of the power for 83% of the weight. And since the game stops caring about amps when the requirements are fulfilled, this is great. 'Nuff said. 'Nifnuf said.

The only bad thing brought about by this change is that the mags are exposed. Botherations. Also the baseplate anchors are at the same height inside of the chassis, they just don't look like it.

Thoughts?

[Naryar]

why is this post coming back into my recent unread topics the third time ? Is it you deleting and reposting things to get attention ? rnifnufmode.jpg

on that matter change these cutting teeth to something without normals, and these exposed motors... yeah. Get a blue control board as well.

[helloface]

why is this post coming back into my recent unread topics the third time ? Is it you deleting and reposting things to get attention ? rnifnufmode.jpg

on that matter change these cutting teeth to something without normals, and these exposed motors... yeah. Get a blue control board as well.

Heh, it was driving me crazy. I kept asking myself "didn't I click that already?" every time I saw it 

Also everything has normals except for maces in DSL3.

[Naryar]

=
Also everything has normals except for maces in DSL3.

I am aware.

[rnifnuf]

Obligatory minibump.

Fixed. Armor is still Titanium 3.

I sacrificed a bit of drive speed for the side armor plates. Originally the cutting teeth were there to protect the extenders like how ice picks do for Stock rammers, but then I figured out that the armor plates did that job just fine and protects the motors at the same time.

Thoughts?

And no, this isn't the third time that this was deleted and reposted.

rnifnufmode.jpg

[Badnik96]

How much HP do those plates have? Also are mags still 400 hp in DSL3?

[Jet-speed]

The small plates have 1.5k or so off the top of my head. Pretty sure all the small Mags are somewhere around 2k though.

[rnifnuf]

How much HP do those plates have? Also are mags still 400 hp in DSL3?

The small plates have 1.5k or so off the top of my head. Pretty sure all the small Mags are somewhere around 2k though.

I used 40x60 plates, which have 2400HP and 100 fracture. As for mag drives, they have 2045HP.

Also, I got the wheels on there through snapper loading. If I wanted to, I could change the minis to growlers or hypnos, but they might not touch the arena floor properly, resulting in RA2-trademark nOnSeNsE (copyright 2491 RA2 & Comrades GmbH SA inc. Ltd, do not steal)