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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: richyguy on September 13, 2009, 05:53:12 AM
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ok im like a noob and need well maybe a lot of advice lol. heres 1 i called iceman. im fine if ya dnt like it but yer tell me wat u think.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/bkfx74gx/iceman.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/zf1v3sgh/screenshot_2.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
the icepicks come out inwards. hammer comes down. so yer. ill post ,pre and ill post this again wit ur advice.
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Hmmm. Well, for starters, its unrealistic, Probably underpowered, Ur using the regular eteks for drive, which doesnt work to well, Fat boys suck, use better wheels ( vlads, tornados, hypnos ) bit of empty space
Also, what armour does it have?
Not bad though, cuz
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ok got sum adjustments
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/f6f1g1xj/screenshot_4.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/31miqay/screenshot_6.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
how bout now ppl
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Better ( as in more realistic, and better drive )
But what is the use of the piston on the Back? its just a waste of weight.
How much does it weigh, and what armour does it use. Still has empty space, try to make ur chassis fit snugly around ur components.
Still underpowered, and could do with a wedge,
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Rich, please browse other showcases, to give u some ideas :)
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Do the side hammers go trough each other? If they do, then make them not go trough each other.
Rear plow is useless.
Too large chassis, it could be very much smaller.
And remember, always show the weight when showcasing a bot.
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Fatboys do NOT suck.
Add front armor, a wedge and your side hammers would be better with less extenders and more weapon weight (DSL bars are better than steel extenders, plus they do damage)
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SSG used Fatboys on BigBadBrother in Clash Cubes 1 and that bot was good (just unlucky) it did win the losers rumble, still one of my favorites
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Fatboys = 1.3 grip, not that bad...
They're just slightly less efficient that the commonly used wheels, but bigger.
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look at the amps of the all the spin motors and add them up, now divide by 2 and that is the most batt power u should have for the spin motors. i dont know about burst, though.
also use the intercooled battlepacks, the have the best power to weight ratio of any batt in dsl.
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look at the amps of the all the spin motors and add them up, now divide by 2 and that is the most batt power u should have for the spin motors. i dont know about burst, though.
also use the intercooled battlepacks, the have the best power to weight ratio of any batt in dsl.
Ant batts are better.
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they do?
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Fatboys = 1.3 grip, not that bad...
They're just slightly less efficient that the commonly used wheels, but bigger.
Exactly why I used them on BBB, other wheels were too small and I didnt want to use enormous wheels, like overkill or wheely big cheese.
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Well,In my book you should of.
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no u dont want to
bigger wheels means bigger robot, which mrans easy to hit
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also use the intercooled battlepacks, the have the best power to weight ratio of any batt in dsl.
WROOOONG
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ok ppl watta u think now
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/76dvvamo/screenshot_8.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/q20lytzc/screenshot_10.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
ok pick axes come round side. wheels are vlad. 3rd titanium armour. 3 bats. and the chassis is smaller. and everythin is cozy wat ya think?
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Realism please.
And build to the weight limit.
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Realism please (aka the DSL bars mustn't pass though the wheels and batteries.
And build to the weight limit.
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realistic how. im still new to this. wat wud u suggest
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Don't make your weapons pass through batteries, motors or wheels as this won't work in real life.
Also with the free kg's you can add more weapon weight and front armor.
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Realism just means that if you can build the same bot in real life, it's realistic. But if components intersect, it starts to get a bit complicated:
If anything passes through motors, batteries and other supporting components, it's unrealistic. But if a component passes through the chassis, it's fine.
If weapons intersect, take note of the welding concept. If the weapons can be welded together and don't interfere with the other components, then it can be considered realistic.
So currently, your DSL bars are passing through the motors. Fix the weapon arc and it's fine. However, we would want you to make it invertible (while using wheels of the same diameter) and use ants or battlepacks instead of the odysseys. And a simple rectangular chassis always helps
Hope this helps. :D
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yer that dus help thnks mate. ill remember that
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Fatboys do NOT suck.
Really? I always thought they sucked.
Well, u learn something new everyday :)
rich, listen to the guys advice that they are giving you, thats how i got good.
Except LRA2. Don't listen to him k?
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ok axes aint comin from the side since they go through other bits. how bout now
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/cqai41/screenshot_12.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/4377ks1l/screenshot_13.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
how bout now peeps?
maybe a lil bit to much spare space
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Ballast suck k? dont use them. Unless short of weight and wanting to improve wedge
the long black batts also suck. Bad power to weight ration i was told
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Hmmm... make the chassis lower. Use Mag snappers instead for the height.
Also, by building to the weight limit, we don't mean that you should use ballasts to fill up the space. There are tons of ways to use the extra weight for: more wedges, more batteries, better wheels.
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ahhh see well i didnt know that. since i learned most of this stf from my cuz doomkiller lol. but ok. do i av to make the chassis lower cause that means makin everythin again lol. i ll fill it up wit like spikes pokin out everywhere
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ok filled up. met its weight. got maces on the side. are maces a gud choice of weapon
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/34r9fbq5/screenshot_16.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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browse the other showcases and if you find a design you like try to copy it
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to me that aint right. id never copy any1's work. y wud i. ill av a look and see how they make there bots but i wudnt copy it jeez
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Only suggestion I have is to speak english, it IS the language we use here on the forum.
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I gotta agree with Inf on this one. Typing properly doesn't eat up that much time anyway. :P
Anyway, I think your bot is a bit underpowered. You can find the adequate amount of batteries you should have by checking the descriptions of the motors and the batteries. The power supplied should be more or less the power used.
Also, you don't need to clone bots from other showcases. Just build whatever those bots inspired you with. :D
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You can find the adequate amount of batteries you should have by checking the descriptions of the motors and the batteries.
Except the Duble perm. It only needs 100 amps, At least that's what I heard ( well, what I saw )
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I'll show you how it's done !
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4224newbhelp.png)
10mm plastic, 6 ant batteries in total, NPC fasts. Built that in maybe 10 minutes.
It's decent to my standards, nothing more.
Also Rich for attaching the discs to the baseplate i used multi extenders. They're a pain to work with when you're new, but very good because very small and light, and they can get out of the chassis.
@DK: Alll spinners work easily with the third of their theorical power needed, but when you have burst motors you don't want to UNDERpower your bot.
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sorry about that. im to used to using msn. kinda annoying switchin back and forth. ill try and yer get proper speakin here i aint being no smart arse if you were wondering. but yer
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sh** man that bot looks awesome as. sorry for double postin if thats bad here. but damn thats awesome. ive also started another bot. ill show you guys soon. umm yer my first bot i guess aint the best. but yer.
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Did yer find yer way in yer game across yer parts to finds what yer parts are better for yer bot buildin' and yer what not?
In other words...If you can SPEAK ENGLISH, and know how to USE A COMPUTER, you should be able TYPE IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE VERNACULAR as well.
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and you though i was bad...
or shall i say...
and yer thort i wa badd
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SHUT UP, PLEASE
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I bet you he speaks with perfect grammer over a chatroom...
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no, not really.
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roboman, you do realize that you are posting like hydro used to and LRA2 does now by posting in EVERY SINGLE DAMN THREAD. No one gives a sh** about post counts so think before you just post 'lol' in a thread.
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Stop thrashing his thread guys, he doesn't deserves such a thing.
But it is true that stock English is appreciated, with correct spelling, grammar (*AHEM AT ME*) and punctuation *looks at rm2444 and dm543*.
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ok you guys go all psycho bout spelling. i mean come on seriously. so wat i talk witout addin a few more letters. just faster. id rather this then avin to sit here for ages tryin to spell sh**. its just who i am and if u look at all my mates they do the same thing. but anyways aint finished that bot yet. still got a bit to do. nealy finished my ner bot too. looks alright. never made 1 that uses this kind of weapon and motors either.
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ok you guys go all psycho bout spelling. i mean come on seriously. so wat i talk witout addin a few more letters. just faster. id rather this then avin to sit here for ages tryin to spell sh**. its just who i am and if u look at all my mates they do the same thing. but anyways aint finished that bot yet. still got a bit to do. nealy finished my ner bot too. looks alright. never made 1 that uses this kind of weapon and motors either.
You're forgetting something mate. I'm you're mate
Can't wait for the new bot though.
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ok heres me new bot. probs not the best but i found a use for that perm motor all by myself
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/a0n1zswo/screenshot_18.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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ok you guys go all psycho bout spelling. i mean come on seriously. so wat i talk witout addin a few more letters. just faster. id rather this then avin to sit here for ages tryin to spell sh**. its just who i am and if u look at all my mates they do the same thing. but anyways aint finished that bot yet. still got a bit to do. nealy finished my ner bot too. looks alright. never made 1 that uses this kind of weapon and motors either.
This is not a chat room.
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A single sawblade... that's not even enough for a MW.
The thing doesn't looks invertible as well, and the rear KD plow is worthless.
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i tried puttin too but like wudnt let me too heavy or sumtin. and the plow is just protection. nuthin more. wata u suggest i do
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More weapons.
And your bot will take 90% of the damage at the front, not the rear, so you don't need 150kg of armor at the rear.
Always put your armor at the front unless you're doing a lot of rumbles.
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ahh see thats true. well thkns for that. ill see wat i can do
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ok got rid of the plow now yer u tell me.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/3d38thee/screenshot_20.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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Yeah its better - i think you can lighten your extender work however, and try to make the thing invertible. Really important.
Somewhat overpowered as well - 7 ant batteries would be good for that.
And try to get your bot symmetrical (left weapon extender work isn't), better for stability.
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invertable? soz av to ask. still new. ill get to work on switchin bats and stf
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Invertible = able to run upside down.
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Invertible means a robot desing that can work just as well upside down as it would normally.
This is not possible for some desings, like Hammers and Vertical spinners due to the weapon type, but they have Scrimech systems that bring them right back up. Vertical spinners usually use the reapon to spin themselfs up and Hammers have some extenders furter back of their weapon to help flipping.
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ahh well ill keep that in mind nxt time. heres the bot now. its kinda smaller and less bats. cause yer. and more weaponary too
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/utbwhdw2/screenshot_22.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
also im goin. so ill ttyl. cya guys thnks for the help. illl be bak 2moz
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As stated, long batts suck. Use 2-3 battlepacks or 7 ants and you'll be fine. And you don't need rear weapons as you're using a rammer, which concentrates all of its weapons at the front. You can use the extra weight on better wheels (Technos). :D
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cause yer
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Use 2-3 battlepacks
If he uses 3 battlepacks the batteries will be empty at the end of the match.
Definitely 7 ants.
And yeah - the rear of the bot shouldn't bear any weapon unless you are building a sit and spinner.
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I think one big thing is to use multi extenders rather then the baseplates (the small black and red things) they may seem harder to use at first but they dont take long to get the hang of and at 2kg each that will shave at least 16kg off your last bot :-D
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^^ SO TRUE... but they are 3kg and do save 1kg over baseplate anchors.
Also check the different components in "extenders", especially the number of attachment points, and especially their hitpoints/weight ratio.
Everyone should do that anyways.
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Not to mention the huge amount of required chassis space you would save, which not only frees up extra kg, also reduces the size of your hitbox.
Sometimes I wonder if the blue control board is really worth using. If you can save 1 kg off of chassis size by using a mini, it should technically mean that a mini is more beneficial. Although I find myself using blue anyway because it is easier than trying to squeeze out that 1 kg off the chassis.
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I usually squeeze my blue CB in between NPCFs anyway, not like you can put anything else there. XD
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Sometimes I wonder if the blue control board is really worth using. If you can save 1 kg off of chassis size by using a mini, it should technically mean that a mini is more beneficial. Although I find myself using blue anyway because it is easier than trying to squeeze out that 1 kg off the chassis.
The blue CB IS better, because if you save 1kg off of chassis size for being able to put a mini on it, you lose a few chassis hitpoints.
However, by using a blue CB over a mini, you gain 1kg without losing anything...maybe you would need a larger chassis when you use really tiny ones, but then you will gain chassis health.
And that is one of the reasons i must update Gearhead.
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ahh well ill keep that in mind nxt time. heres the bot now. its kinda smaller and less bats. cause yer. and more weaponary too
also im goin. so ill ttyl. cya guys thnks for the help. illl be bak 2moz
This needs to be translated before being posted.
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The blue CB IS better, because if you save 1kg off of chassis size for being able to put a mini on it, you lose a few chassis hitpoints.
However, by using a blue CB over a mini, you gain 1kg without losing anything...maybe you would need a larger chassis when you use really tiny ones, but then you will gain chassis health.
And that is one of the reasons i must update Gearhead.
Is that 1kg worth of chassis HP > 1kg worth of chassis size (hitbox)?
then we have to compare the tiny amount of HP gain over the tiny amount of average damage prevented due to increase chance of miss......
Or maybe I can just use a blue when it fits, and use a mini when I can't fit a blue. I wouldn't rebuild the whole bot in favor of one over the other.
As for baseplate vs milti extender, for me the bad thing about baseplate has always been their enormous size. The 1 kg gain for using a multi extender is just a bonus.
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ok you guys go all psycho bout spelling. i mean come on seriously. so wat i talk witout addin a few more letters. just faster. id rather this then avin to sit here for ages tryin to spell sh**. its just who i am and if u look at all my mates they do the same thing. but anyways aint finished that bot yet. still got a bit to do. nealy finished my ner bot too. looks alright. never made 1 that uses this kind of weapon and motors either.
What ****ing backwards place do you ****ing come from? London? Glasgow?
Dude, all your freinds type like morons because they are probably underqualified for Burger King, Let alone any decent ****ing job.
Ey fi. Read that? It means ENGLISH YOU ****ING IDIOT!
P.S: I wrote this on a PS3.
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Better if you had wrote it on a wii.Those things are HARD!!!
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Richyguy I like the latest version of your rammer. Get rid of the rear weapons and change the wheels to more grippy ones, Also make it invertible to:-D.
S32 thats was uncalled for :(, you could of said it in a better way.
And for the rest of you Circus Clowns, You people B*tch about LRA2 spamming threads look at what you idiots are doing to this kids showcase who is just trying to learn(I'm not talking about the people who are giving him tips and Help). Like Nary said he dosent deserve this, but a couple of you do deserve it.
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I used to post here with my ipod.
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And for the rest of you Circus Clowns, You people B*tch about LRA2 spamming threads look at what you idiots are doing to this kids showcase who is just trying to learn(I'm not talking about the people who are giving him tips and Help). Like Nary said he dosent deserve this, but a couple of you do deserve it.
My new anti-II quote :biggrin:
But yeah, richyguy does need to get used to how we communicate on this forum. Maybe you can help him DK?
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I told him to write in proper english, So I will try again, Drill it into his head if I have to
As for you S32, Yell like that at my cousin, ( who lives 3 hrs away from me ) and your gona hear about it
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lol i only type like that cause its me. saves time. like instead of sayin see ya i say cya. c-ya. just easier for me. no big deal. its like how i speak too. kinda foriegn and i like it. thats me. not angry or nuthin just tellin u all a lil bit about me. anyways screw that ppl ok. now i guess ur right. rear weapons aint rly nesesary. just more ways to fight. usin ant bats tho gives it a lot of room but i cnt lower the chassis cause of the perm motor. bigger wheels i cud use. oh makin it wateva u called it able to use ubside down. cud use those wheels that look like motorbike wheels right?
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Richyguy I like the latest version of your rammer. Get rid of the rear weapons and change the wheels to more grippy ones, Also make it invertible to:-D.
S32 thats was uncalled for :(, you could of said it in a better way.
And for the rest of you Circus Clowns, You people B*tch about LRA2 spamming threads look at what you idiots are doing to this kids showcase who is just trying to learn(I'm not talking about the people who are giving him tips and Help). Like Nary said he dosent deserve this, but a couple of you do deserve it.
hey mate i aint no kid lol. i mean yer im 14 but im the size of a 30 year old. and im like very bored here and i got interested in this game. thnks for bakin me up tho i appreciate it lol
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ok here it is. it can drive upside down(hopefully) the wheels are high enuf. might av a lot of room. but yer it shud be fine
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/1sh8fkhw/screenshot_25.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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All of you guys, STOP.
This is becoming stupid, this showcase is NOT some battlefield for you to vent.
I have not a lot of authority so Kill please do something.
@Rich: The previous one was better in battery and extender work (the drive is good on that one though)
...I really need to update my DSL basic tips wiki page and get a link to it every time a newbie posts a showcase, ra2techs.htm style.
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wat the 3 long or the 7 ants.
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I told you that 7 ants are good for that bot... the 20kg black batts suck.
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ok just makin sure. ima gunna put like another in just in case yer. k. well i like that bot how it is so im dun. ill fix the bats and yer
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your bots are looking pretty sweet but space management is something you will need to work on
this is one of the best pieces of advice I got when I first started out and it really did help (thanks JD)
In real life... a square bot with a ton of plating to protect the innards would be suitable for battle. With this game, its kinda the opposite. Anything you can put outside the basic structure of the bot will keep the precious chassis and even more so precious contents safe.
As an exercise, try to make the smallest chassis you can make to fit a battery/control board/and maybe a snapper or two, then see what you can attach to the snappers to make the bot mobile/damaging/and protected. This will teach you to congest things to a smaller chassis.
Because, remember, in battle... if a bot does a ton of damage to your chassis you are done for pretty quick... if the opponent nips away at exterior parts first before getting to the core, your bot has a better chance at surviving longer and winning the bout.
its a great help, try it out with Stock and then jump over to DSL as stock can be as unrealistic as you want
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yer thats where i av problems lol. i need to work on that. never get it right
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ok need a question for a bot in progress. im usin like this a helicopter look alike. the black 3 extender. wit hammers on the edge. wat kind of motor wud u use. im usin the piglet right now but it aint rly that gud.
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depends on which hammers You are using, But 4 mag, 6 mag and the double perm would be good. The single perms would also be good, Depending on the shape of the chassis and the weight of the hammers
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DK is right there, 4 Mag or 6 Mag (one of them is called a tornado gearbox or something) would be best or if your slinging serious weight then a duel perm
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Pic please.
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here it is
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/7b8uve2n/screenshot_27.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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try running the Whyachi Tribar straight off the motor and extenders on the ends of the tribar is also not a good thing, the second one of those is broken your bot will do a dance of the mauler variety
Mauler Dancing = Likely Quick Death
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ahh ok thnks
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ok how bout now
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/hh450clu/screenshot_29.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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the angle extenders are very weak, And heavy.....
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that's better, maybe use the smallest mutli extenders rather then angled ones as they will be harder to hit and use hypno wheels to bring the hammers closer to the ground
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Those extenders holding the sledges are quite brittle. It would be better if your motor is attached straight to the baseplate. If the tribar intersects the wheels, (which most likely will happen) use Hypnos instead. They might be a tad heavier, but your bot will be more controllable with those on. Did you know that the NPC motors have an uncanny way of being able to be placed halfway outside the chassis? That helps a lot for extreme space management. Just lower the chassis and place the batteries where the drive used to be. :D
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ok i cudnt use hypnos they cudnt reach the ground so i used dsl2 they lower it and yer here u go
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/9ickzff/screenshot_31.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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ummm, Arnt the hypno wheels the same size as the dsl1 wheels?
Much better bot though, Richy
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woohoo im progressing. wudnt say im the best. but kool. least ppl say there ok and gettin better right lol
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Hypnos WILL touch the ground when the drive is attached straight to the baseplate. Don't believe most things your eyes see when you're playing RA2. Flaws are always present in any game. XD
Also, the weapon is still too high. Put the motor straight to the baseplate and you won't need those weak extenders anymore. And you can make put your weapon motor lower by having your drive stick out like this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53203bft2.PNG)
As you can see, the bulk of the motor is outside the chassis, yet it still allowed me to attach the motors directly to the baseplate. And yep, it's as fast as heck.
Try making the chassis bigger, but shorter. A wide stance always helps with bots that have serious kinetic energy on the weapons. :D
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ahh see i didnt know has u cud of seen lol. alright then. so lower spinny thingy and hypno wheels and motors on the outsideish ok then
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ok got it all. tho wud it be best if the motor wasnt exposed
or is it that i didnt av to do that
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/9ickzff/screenshot_31.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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oh crumbs wrong 1 ooops
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(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/wscq29i/screenshot_33.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
here it is
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Unless you're using more than one weapon on each end of the tribar,
NO. EXTENDERS. ON. THE. TRIBAR.
Not only you are wasting weight but they can get your hammers ripped off quickly if you get a hit on them.
Edit: Last one is much better.
Edit2: Nice quad post
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4 posts in a row, guys around here really apreiciated that, expescially seeming you can edit your own posts....
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sos forgot. cuda bin nice and just said. try not to post so much. u can edit it. wudnt of bin so hard. oh and there aint no extenders on the second 1. 1st 1 was put on accidentally lol. forgot to get the new pic
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I wish I was a moderator because I would suspend you right now for not speaking a understandable language.
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id ban u too. u forgot to put an "an" in front of understandable. get used to how i type. i aint gunna change. if i was writin an essay or such then yer id type normally but since im talkin among other ppl i type like dis
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AND HERE WE GO AGAIN.
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I wounld't fight with inf Cuz, he is one of the more respected people on this forum. Unless you want to be like S32 XD
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soz narya. just cnt beleive he wud go on bout it still wen ive bin typin like this for ages lol. i mean come on. aint he got anythin better to do then yell at me for the way i type i mean jeezus
if u dnt like it dnt post here
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Inf is like that.
Now, as you can do it, please write in normal English, either you'll still be criticized and Inf isn't the only one to do it...
Believe me, we already had cases like that (some newbie not typing properly), and 90% of the time it doesn't ends well at all.
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yer probs. soz mate just hard. ill see wat i can do tho. but i still find it funny that some1 would like ban me cause i dnt type properly. seriously how lame.
well im off to bed anywayz. ttyl fellows. and for those who dont know what that means it means talk to you later. mmk? night all
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well its a case of this isnt an instant messenger its a forum, basically people respect others who take the time out and write out posts properly.
also we have members on here who have English as a second language so it will help them out a great deal using correct spelling
im not criticizing or anything (im actually a friend of Doomkillers from WA) just letting you know why people may get annoyed over the chat speak
:-D
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Dude... I use IM speak more than alot, but I still take the time(20 seconds extra) to type properly!
And I'd say you are screved after what you said to Inf.
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LiNcK does more than us, even if we were here longer.
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Inf is like that.
Now, as you can do it, please write in normal English, either you'll still be criticized and Inf isn't the only one to do it...
Believe me, we already had cases like that (some newbie not typing properly), and 90% of the time it doesn't ends well at all.
^^^lol were you talking about me:smiley:. That Grammer Nazi Frezal used to be at throat 24/7 if I misspelled a word or didn't use the right punctuation.
@richyguy I didn't mean to call you kid I really didn't know how old you were so I just took a wild guest. I like the latest version of your HS:approve:. What size hammers are you using also?
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LiNcK does more than us, even if we were here longer.
Im kinda dead right now :P (You guys noticed i think)
Ive been playing other games, Ill try to make some new bots though
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Hey a**dick -
Learn to speak english because
A) No one will ever give a f-ck about what you have to say
B) You will be ignored by 85% of the people on this forum
C) You will ultimately be reprehended by an actual moderator/administrator.
I highly doubt that the way you speak on this forum currently is the way you think and speak with a language in real life.
every1 on here wnt b actn like itsk to talk like u do cz you wnt talk in a undrstndble language. nt every1 is gnna strt speaking in a madeup language jst cuz itz "lame" to type properly.
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So that is why you hate me.
Would it be OK if we used some shortcuts like u(you) and lol(laugh out loud).
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No.
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Which one?
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lol mm ur 1 2 talk
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what?
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lol mm ur 1 2 talk
I can't talk about grammer? Why not? I think I have improved dramatically in the last 2 years.
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I can't talk about grammer? Why not? I think I have improved dramitically in the last 2 years.
You should be a veteran
:gawe:
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You should be a veteran
:gawe:
Thank you! =D
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So that is why you hate me.
Would it be OK if we used some shortcuts like u(you) and lol(laugh out loud).
No you're generally just a moron and total newb.
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No you're generally just a moron and total newb.
*Doesnt wanna comment to not get flamed*
I had to read one of Richguy's post 3 times to understand... Annoying >_>
Reading his posts are like Reading an Encyclopedia, You dont wanna read coz you wont understand, You just wanna look at the pics xD
(Yush, I use coz instead of because :P)
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No you're generally just a moron and total newb.
total noob? why? i can actually make ok bots! of course the are not as good as yours are, but they are waaaay better than lra2's.
plus i am not a moron.
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total noob? why? i can actually make ok bots! of course the are not as good as yours are, but they are waaaay better than lra2's.
plus i am not a moron.
LRA2 is not a noob, Hes a totally unrevertible failure...
Hes beyond repair dude :P
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well im waaaaay better than richguy(no offense)
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The Circus is FU***** back^^^^^^. STOP SPAMMING HIS FU***** THREAD. I agree with INf with posting better english not the swearing part though but it's inf so who cares;). Richyguy it's very hard to understand your posts even for me, so just take a little time when you post and make sure it's good english and the clowns will take there act somewhere else. Robo your really getting on my nerves to, You want to know why people can't stand you?, Because your just like LRA2 except you have better building skills thats the only Fu***** difference between the both of you Big-OHH, you do the same dum sh*t he does and just as annoying.
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wooooow. i never knew a bunch of nerds like all you guys could get so hyped up about spelling. i honestly swear how can it be so bad. and besides if 85% of the people dont talk theres the other 15% plus since this is a big site im guessin theres alot of people right. tho if you think this typing is so f***ing bad why the f*** are u reading and posting here. if you dont like it bugger off. and besides im not worried about my spelling here. im just here for the advice about my bots and nothing more. now im gunna start another bot but since im about to leave for school it wont be dun till tonight. so cya then matties
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Ok. As much as I try to not bash on the new guys much, I need to write one post.
First off, LRA2 is eight years old. Thats 2nd grade. Maybe 3rd. Even so, he swears more than I do now. He is an unruly child that doesn't want to learn. We should set an age limit of at least 12 for these forums. IMO LRA2 should be banned, at least from posting.
Richguy is not hard to understand. I actually enjoy reading his comments because it sounds like he has a cool accent.
Roboman, I hate you as much as LRA2. You know why? Because you know what you are saying, and still make a newb of yourself. Stop posting unless you have a need to.
Viper, don't title your posts. It looks bad. Don't use more than one smiley per paragraph. Don't make your smilies larger. Get rid of your sig and make a new one that isn't annoying and red.
Richguy- sorry to post this in your thread. Keep posting bots and you will get better if you want.
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We're just here to talk about a single game and sometimes an actual sport, so settle your social differences elsewhere.
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I just new this would get bad, But not this bad.
Thanks for spamming my cousins thread dudes......
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omg. sage thnks for bakin me up here. and doom, lol i like it how u just called them all camel's d$%^'s lol. i aint got no new bot yet will later
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alright heres me latist bot. i tried to keep it small and all. dnt know a name for it yet either.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/nogd7qev/screenshot_35.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
also are the mower blades a gud choice of weapon or not
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Mower blades are somewhat below average. Don't use them. And don't use a weapon as a rear stabilizer. A sheet or a half-sheet stuck outside your underside would be better. Add wedges to the front as they help a lot in the HW class. You could use skirt hinges or metal hinges. But good job on the chassis height and space management.
As for the weapon however, it's totally your choice. You could have a circular shell plate with weapons on it.
Oh, and don't forget to post your armor. We could also help you with that. :D
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the tail is just for show. usin wedges how wud u put them on just there or use a snapper or sumtin. and ill get a pic of armour. cause it was light i used the heighest titanium armour. is that gud or bad.
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Titanium is the best armor choice, but putting on 10mm is excessive. Maybe 5mm or 3mm would be nice (putting on external armor is better).
For skirts, just attach the hinges directly to the chassis. The lower the wedge, the better. Then attach sheets to the skirts. If they won't attach, rotate them a bit. Metal hinges are a bit heavier, but they always get the job done. Simply attach it to the chassis and attach a sheet to it. No need for additional tweaks. Skirts and snapper wedges need some careful tweaking to get them to work. :D
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wat wedge as in small wedge that u use to flip em. can ya like quickly make that part and show me im avin trouble understandin that.
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Here are some examples:
(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/1/1b/Hazardous_Contraption_Pic_2.jpg)
Here's Hazardous Contraption. This is Nary's old bot and it won BBEANS 4. As you can see here, HazCon uses 2 skirt hinges. One for getting under a bot, and another for feeding the bot into the weapons.
(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/f/f8/BatmobileAI_Pic_2.jpg)
And this is BatmobileAI. Not the best of its type, but I didn't have enough time to look for better examples. These are probably the easiest wedges you could use. Although heavy, they are almost on par with snapper wedges. Just attach, attach, and there you go. :D
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hey are the wedge things supposed to go up. like a wedge wud do lol
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hey are the wedge things supposed to go up. like a wedge wud do lol
That sound like a flipper, Which would need a burst motor. However, for wedges, a skirt hinge would be fine for a wedge, as their only made to get under other bots, not to flip them over
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I agree with EVERY SINGLE WORD in Sage's post.
Also Rich - please check other's showcases (the good builder's ones) for ideas and advice.
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thnks naryar. ill av a look 2moz tho. im nearly dun tonight.
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no building after 9pm aye ? haha
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nah its just i got tired lol but right now im on my wii postin this lol this is mad as but damn hard
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I guess that explains a few things. I guess that is a big step forward, since your building around the components, but your new HW is not a full potental, plus the weight of the wedges you have around 20 Kgs left over.
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As you can see here, HazCon uses 2 skirt hinges. One for getting under a bot, and another for feeding the bot into the weapons.
I tried making wedges with Skirt Hinges... But its IMPOSSIBLE... (See Canadian Wedge) Even a Wedgeless bot could get under that
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I got under HazCon with the hinge thing.
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Skirt hinges and snapper wedges need to be set slightly into the ground to add pressure to the motor. Be careful however, as too much or too little pressure can ruin the otherwise good wedge. If you're absolutely lazy, metal hinges usually pwn. XD
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Skirt hinges and snapper wedges need to be set slightly into the ground to add pressure to the motor. Be careful however, as too much or too little pressure can ruin the otherwise good wedge. If you're absolutely lazy, metal hinges usually pwn. XD
That means that Skirt Wedges can be better than Hinge wedges if setted up correctly? :O
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Yes. Hazcon pulled this out a few times.
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so sumtin like this yer?
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/2hmigmk0/screenshot_37.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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That looks decent actually. try getting a more powerful weapon on there, like a disc with some weapons on it. Saw blades are pretty weak. good choice on the wheels, but that thing in the back is going to make your wedges worse because it adds weight to the back of the bot.
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ok well ill get rid of that also i put on bigger wheels so it works upside down i used fatbo cnt post a pic tho
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Raise the motors 1 notch and use Vlads.
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hey actually i want a vote on which is better. vlad or fatboy. cause ppl are both sayin fatboy are sumtimes gud and so are vlad so just tell me which u think is better to use.
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Vlads are by far better.
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Unless you need a wheel to be a specific size or weight, the 3 wheels of choice are Vlad, Hypno, and Techno.
I usually use Techno on my HWs.
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^^ True. Technos are useless in any other thing than heavies. Also, wide ant wheels are useful as well.
Vlads are superior if you have a lower chassis.
Also get something tougher than saws, like replica spinning weapon... weapons on a disc are nice, but the disc's weight is lost weapon weight.
But all replica discs have normals, so i don't know if it's better to have more weapon weight with normals or less without normals?
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I use chewblades. More durable than saws, without normals. And you can stack them to make drums.
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^^ True. Technos are useless in any other thing than heavies. Also, wide ant wheels are useful as well.
Vlads are superior if you have a lower chassis.
Also get something tougher than saws, like replica spinning weapon... weapons on a disc are nice, but the disc's weight is lost weapon weight.
But all replica discs have normals, so i don't know if it's better to have more weapon weight with normals or less without normals?
You are right, Wide Ant are also useful for LW.
Whirl Wep Disk and Potter's Wheel doesn't have Normal, although they deal pathetic damage in field test and are generally not that good.
I use chewblades. More durable than saws, without normals. And you can stack them to make drums.
Chewblades have normals.
name = Canine VI ChewBlade
preview = chewblade_preview.bmp
dir = chewblade
model = chewblade1.gmf
type = weapons
base = Weapon
passthru = canine_collision
styles = Canine VI Chewblade, dslmower_blade1.txt, Mower blade
description = More than a sawblade, the Canine VI is machined nearly 5 cm thick. Always wear your safety glasses! It has 5000 HP and 240 DP.
damagesounds = sounds\sawblade_hits_loop.wav
hitpoints = 5000
normal = true 1 0 0 0 1 0
decal = double_slash.tga 0 0 1 0.5 0.5 0
attachsound = sounds\cmp_sawblade.wav
frequency = 5
standard = 1
piercing = 1.09
concussion = .4
Sort = 11
mass = 20
But if you stack them and use them as a drum, the normal doesn't matter that much.
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Chewblades do very low damage as well...
But you say Potters Wheel and WW Disc do not have normals? Technically it means that they'll do more damage... I'll try these with a strong enough motor.
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I don't really understand how the damage calculation work sometimes, but WW disk, even without normals, are totally horrible.
name = Whirl Wep Disc
preview = whirlwhip_preview.bmp
dir = whirlwhip
model = whirldisc.gmf
type = weapons
base = Component
passthru = collision
piercing = .82
concussion = 1
frequency = 5
fracture = 40
hitpoints = 6000
description = Whirl Wep's grinding disc is very tough but not as damaging with 6000 HP and 250 DP.
damagesounds = sounds\snowplow_hit.wav
attachsound = sounds\cmp_generic.wav
standard = 1
mass = 25
Chew Blade does way more damage in field test for some odd reason.
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ok so how bout this. i used these weapons here are they gud or not. i tried them and they seem ok.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/ajgvmf12/screenshot_39.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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nope ripping teeth do have normals.
Try 4 large beater bars on each disc.
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and have them spinning inwards
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so this
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/69vao0hr/screenshot_41.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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much better
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Pretty good, could use a smaller chassis.
With those Ripping teeth it wasnt even realistic, as the teeth went trough the motors and you cant do that in real life.
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no dah mate. funny how ppl point out the obvious
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Here's a simple suggestion:
Try rebuilding the chassis, but instead of making an upside down 'U', make it a 'T' instead, as the chassis weight is calculated using surface area, not volume. On the lower end of the 'T', place your Perms side to side, but rotate the axles outward so the weapons won't intersect (you might also need to increase its motor length to attain its desired reach). And just place your drive and batts at the rear. As for the wedges, you could use a single skirt and attach large angled sheets to it. :D
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i think thats as far as im gunna go. theres not much to do on it witout completly changin the entire bot. so illl be postin me nxt bot l8r
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hey soz i aint posted for ages but i made a new bot. here it is
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/0l6eddfz/screenshot_45.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/8i773asi/screenshot_44.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
wat do ya guys think aye. the dsl bars might not be the best of weapns but i think i used em in another bot i made. so idk. u tell me
actually its light. and wen it drives it keeps flippin wat do i use to keep it level or at least let it stay level
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DSL bars have normals, so they're not good for spinners. Use hammers instead. Also it needs a wedge. A skirt hinge wedge or metal hinge wedge would do just fine. Also, don't waste weight on rear armor. All it needs is good turning. If those are normal NPCs, switch them to NPCFs. If they are NPCFs, just downgrade the wheels to Technos or even Vlads. Don't worry about invertibility if it can selfright. And you need to build to the weight limit, so you should probably add some motor protection.
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alright i cudnt put a that watsit thing on but how bout now wat do u think.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/nxjefwbj/screenshot_47.bmp.png) (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)
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got my thumbs up, mate!
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pretty good!
for the extenders, insted of having 2 universals, have 1 universal and 1 aluminum or plastic