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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: philetbabe on October 10, 2008, 07:12:37 AM

Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 10, 2008, 07:12:37 AM: In the purpose of the Elbite tournament, i've build 4 bots and i try to select 'the best one'.
As long as i reject one, i will post it here. this means i didn't succes in making this bot a good challenger. Perhaps one of you will take the idea and improve it.

So this is my first junky bot : Vertical spinner with low profile and a piston. The idea was, for king of the hill or tabletop, to invite foes up its top then eject them or rip them.

Good idea, bad realisation : not effective against poker in tabletop, this bot gives a good fight on king of the hill but it wide structure made it an easy target on the chaos of the hill.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71864ElbiteJunkYard.jpg)

so i say goodbye to this one.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 10, 2008, 08:10:37 AM: Hex plates do damage.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on October 10, 2008, 08:13:26 AM: I think the turtle shell plates do damage.

Wouldn't you transform this thread in one where everybody could post their bots?

I have a poker/wedge hybrid for the tabletop. It owns, but half of the time throws itself OOTA when AIed.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 10, 2008, 08:14:21 AM: I have a drum for all three. Maybe this could be like the RAW Bot Showcase.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 10, 2008, 08:19:37 AM: Quote from: Naryar;16816

Wouldn't you transform this thread in one where everybody could post their bots?.

No problem, as long as it is a junkyard : i think this is kind of fun to discover the real opponents the day the tournament open.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 10, 2008, 08:29:08 AM: Okay than, here is a bot that got replaced as my Elbite bot.
Deathmatch
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32031Lightning Deathmatch.jpg)
Tabletop
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49709Lightning TT.jpg)
KoTH
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75862Lightning KoTH.jpg)
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 10, 2008, 09:44:13 AM: Quote from: Somebody;16823
Okay than, here is a bot that got replaced as my Elbite bot.

Your bot seems over-powered. Moreover, why such a complicated attachement of the extenders in the front ?
finaly, why do you left this bot ? why do you feel it was not good ?
About he AI for the offensive bots , did you want it to work like a pusher or like a whipper ?
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 10, 2008, 10:56:03 AM: This was overpowered, and with its lack of weapons, it was a bad rammer. I was trying to make it like BrasOuvert, but it didn't work out.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 10, 2008, 12:02:50 PM: Quote from: Somebody;16833
I was trying to make it like BrasOuvert, but it didn't work out.

you flatter me, but BrasOuvert is not a good bot.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Reier on October 10, 2008, 02:08:35 PM: Mah bad bot...

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/reier/RA2/DSL/t.png)

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/reier/RA2/DSL/screenshot_37.png)

I decided against it because it wasn't very versitile.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 10, 2008, 02:19:07 PM: Quote from: Reier;16849
Here's a possible candidite:

Be aware Reier that this thread is for the 'bad bots' only. the ones we test and that did not reach our hopes. The 'good ones' will be discovered when the match will be opened.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Reier on October 10, 2008, 02:26:13 PM: Uh...whoops! Edited. Sorry. I'm not even sure if I'm going to enter that one anyway.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 10, 2008, 03:39:19 PM: Bras Ouvert is pretty good, and it has a good design, but it doesn't work on a 4wd bot.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 11, 2008, 06:35:51 AM: here is another failure :
Too fast for tabletop, even with a low speed on its AI,
and the front too heavy (or the wheels too much on the back) for king of the hill : climb too slowly : too bad !

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48613heavy dream.jpg)
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Reier on October 11, 2008, 08:52:43 AM: Yeah, Piglets usually don't work too well for drive motors.

Edit: Cool paintjob.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 11, 2008, 08:58:59 AM: I bet you that if you used better motors, it would get up the hill faster.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 15, 2008, 01:40:55 PM: My last chess :
VS that done good on King of the hill but which are really asshole on tabletop.
1 HS too bad.

But finally, i found a bot that please me and i send it to elbite, you'll discover it when the match will start. But, promised, this is not a slow bot with big hammer on its front !
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53784other bad ones.jpg)
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on October 15, 2008, 02:04:19 PM: Piglets for drive = fail.

Also LOL at your drums.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: infiniteinertia on October 15, 2008, 02:06:23 PM: agreed. your alot better off with even copals for drive.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Reier on October 21, 2008, 03:11:55 PM: I Like this bot, but I decided against it:

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/reier/RA2/DSL/electric.png)

Tabletop:
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/reier/RA2/DSL/electrictt.png)

I'm going to enter a bot that can do WAY more damage.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on October 21, 2008, 03:33:35 PM: You're getting better each time you post a bot!

I know this is a junkyard, but: the flipper is WAAY too fast for a tabletop and for a flipper. Also, i don't see the point of this small caddie wheel on top of the JX's.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: System32 on October 21, 2008, 05:22:46 PM: I don't see what's wrong with a fast flipper. I'm pretty sure that speed could allow for it ti attack side on, and it may also aid the main attack.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on October 21, 2008, 05:28:21 PM: A very fast flipper is generally less efficient, wedge-wise.

And a thing as fast as this on a tabletop gets OOTA easily.

But if you reduce the maxspeed...
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Reier on October 21, 2008, 06:01:43 PM: I actually only used normal t64's on this bot, & it still OOTAs sometimes. Ilike this bot, it just wasn't that destructive.
Edit: I AIed it & it never drives straight because it's front-heavy. :ermm:
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 22, 2008, 04:43:14 AM: Has anybody a vertical spinner as a failure ? does anyone try to make a good vertical spinner on tabletop ?
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2008, 05:40:34 AM: A VS on a tabletop? Wrong choice IMO. In tabletop, pokers, pushers, rammers and flippers own.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Gigafrost on October 22, 2008, 10:40:43 AM: It could depend though! There is a way to edit the bots .py so that it can avoid falling.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on October 22, 2008, 04:18:22 PM: Low Bots=Success on Tabletop because Low Bots= Stability
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Clickbeetle on October 22, 2008, 11:22:58 PM: Quote from: philetbabe;18218
Has anybody a vertical spinner as a failure ? does anyone try to make a good vertical spinner on tabletop ?

I made a VS, but I'm not going to show it because it's probably going to be my entry :mrgreen: Assuming that ELBITE actually happens, which I'm not quite convinced of yet. But I like the idea behind it, so I'm getting ready just in case.

Let's just say I got a little... unorthodox... for the tabletop.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on October 29, 2008, 03:36:50 PM: A promising ELBITE KotH bot, Stormhammer

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8716screenshot_10.JPG)

Yeah, this is my version of Haymaker. 1mm titanium (i love this armor).

I thought a SnS would be the perfect choice for a tabletop because it was fast (getting on the top quickly) and having all-around offense (since it's a rumble) but NO!

That thing's too unstable to be used decently in a hilly arena, especially on top of a hill. A good blow will make it fly.

I still can't find what bot type could be efficient in a tabletop...
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: philetbabe on October 29, 2008, 04:19:53 PM: Quote from: Naryar;19185
A promising ELBITE KotH bot, Stormhammer
That thing's too unstable to be used decently in a hilly arena, .

Did you try with a shorter DSL Bar ?

Here is an old attempt to make a bot available for a 4 fighters arena. It'is heavy, but i did not even try to make it MW : it always finishes with its long legs up. Funny anyway.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Natef on March 07, 2009, 01:39:00 PM: How do you create screenshots?
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Naryar on March 07, 2009, 01:45:41 PM: Read the manual.
Title: PhilEtBabe Elbite JunkYard
Post by: Somebody on March 07, 2009, 03:08:24 PM: And check the last post date too.