Hypnos or tornados?
Honestly not liking this; defeats the point of IRL on many levels; it's also unrealistic in that sense due to a skirt passing through a DSL bar.
Dude seriously put some effort into making it look realistic. Big chassis + slightly less than normal weapons does not equal realistic. Loose the big skirts and try to blend the design better, work on the "flow" of the components. Not just the "it's more effective here..."
Quote from: madman3 on February 05, 2012, 05:04:32 PMHonestly not liking this; defeats the point of IRL on many levels; it's also unrealistic in that sense due to a skirt passing through a DSL bar.Where did I say I was an IRL builder ?Also, if this tiny thing makes it unrealistic, then why are ring spinners allowed when they are so BLATANTLY unrealistic in DSL ? I know the counter-argument to this, and I sure as can use the exact same argument to defend the realism of my bot.You could perfectly cut out the skirt hinge at the middle twice and since it's inside the chassis it is not like it's gonna fall. Hell IRL the sheets would be welded to the chassis frame and no need for skirt hinge, so technically the skirt hinge shouldn't even exist. But I can't BFE these two 40mm Ti's to the chassis, right ?
Uuh lazy ? Not really cause I had to snapper load the thing. And it's the best use of weight I can do with this setup.Put the skirt hinge higher ? Not possible, messes with other collision meshes. I meant the angleChange the DSL bars to shell panels, and attach the motor armor to the top of the shell panels ? Sheck panels doesn't fit, and it would make the bot more fragile overall. Or how about you screw the exterior armour and just give it better chassis armour? Hate to say it but IRL isn't about "whoamygosh effeciency", more on aesthetics. Your bot is an unsatisfying and ugly compromise between two building styles and TBH it sucks.Use 2 multi's to attach the motor protections ? More weight wasted, and difficult to orient. Hardly an issue with the skirt wedges which can be downgraded to less ugly Tit 80cm sheetsAttach the motor protections via multiextenders to the baseplates ? Nope. Provide a reason rather than establishing yourself a state of pointless denialOnly thing I see that is possibly better than this is using plastic 20cm's and ME's to attach the 4 pieces of armor, actually saving 3kgs but I don't see it helping. Plus it might make it more fragile, and I doubt it gives me the flexibility to put the armor sheets in the right position. Though I might try that last one.
Quote from: Naryar on February 05, 2012, 05:34:56 PMUuh lazy ? Not really cause I had to snapper load the thing. And it's the best use of weight I can do with this setup.Put the skirt hinge higher ? Not possible, messes with other collision meshes. I meant the angle Well if I get a higher angle it would NOT protect the piglets. Point of the whole skirt hinge = protecting the piglets.Change the DSL bars to shell panels, and attach the motor armor to the top of the shell panels ? Sheck panels doesn't fit, and it would make the bot more fragile overall. Or how about you screw the exterior armour and just give it better chassis armour? Hate to say it but IRL isn't about "whoamygosh effeciency", more on aesthetics. Your bot is an unsatisfying and ugly compromise between two building styles and TBH it sucks. Yeah nice way to insult my bot and not give any developed reason why.Use 2 multi's to attach the motor protections ? More weight wasted, and difficult to orient. Hardly an issue with the skirt wedges which can be downgraded to less ugly Tit 80cm sheets I use angled 80cm's for a reason. Most notably, less wedgelock, more keeping the enemy bot on the wedge.Attach the motor protections via multiextenders to the baseplates ? Nope. Provide a reason rather than establishing yourself a state of pointless denial Isn't it obvious that with only multi-extenders I cannot position the sheets in a good way without using even more kg's, due to their attachment points ?I'm sorry, but you have made a bad general design with a bunch of stupid features that do not belong in the building style. Scrap it and go find actual decent IRL bots (Scrap's showcase, obviously). Either that or take SKBT's advice because TBH he is much better at IRL than you, and still makes decent performing bots.Or just build standard DSL because you're actually good at it.
Uuh lazy ? Not really cause I had to snapper load the thing. And it's the best use of weight I can do with this setup.Put the skirt hinge higher ? Not possible, messes with other collision meshes. I meant the angle Well if I get a higher angle it would NOT protect the piglets. Point of the whole skirt hinge = protecting the piglets.Change the DSL bars to shell panels, and attach the motor armor to the top of the shell panels ? Sheck panels doesn't fit, and it would make the bot more fragile overall. Or how about you screw the exterior armour and just give it better chassis armour? Hate to say it but IRL isn't about "whoamygosh effeciency", more on aesthetics. Your bot is an unsatisfying and ugly compromise between two building styles and TBH it sucks. Yeah nice way to insult my bot and not give any developed reason why.Use 2 multi's to attach the motor protections ? More weight wasted, and difficult to orient. Hardly an issue with the skirt wedges which can be downgraded to less ugly Tit 80cm sheets I use angled 80cm's for a reason. Most notably, less wedgelock, more keeping the enemy bot on the wedge.Attach the motor protections via multiextenders to the baseplates ? Nope. Provide a reason rather than establishing yourself a state of pointless denial Isn't it obvious that with only multi-extenders I cannot position the sheets in a good way without using even more kg's, due to their attachment points ?
Quote from: madman3 on February 05, 2012, 05:04:32 PMHonestly not liking this; defeats the point of IRL on many levels; it's also unrealistic in that sense due to a skirt passing through a DSL bar.Where did I say I was an IRL builder ?Also, if this tiny thing makes it unrealistic, then why are ring spinners allowed when they are so BLATANTLY unrealistic in DSL ? I know the counter-argument to this, and I sure as can use the exact same argument to defend the realism of my bot.
Don't wanna swap the positions of the drive and batteries?