Author Topic: Naryar's DSL showcase - Oldschool DSL-S with 2.2 (Read 376620 times)

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #1340 on:** November 30, 2011, 02:39:59 PM »

You better make our Tag-Team bot.

smashysmashy · « **Reply #1341 on:** November 30, 2011, 02:41:28 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on November 30, 2011, 02:38:47 PM

Maybe I should post a new bot...

Not yet.

I'll need to get a new pair of boxers ready, first.

Thyrus · « **Reply #1342 on:** November 30, 2011, 02:44:00 PM »

I don`t like them

martymidget · « **Reply #1343 on:** November 30, 2011, 03:57:51 PM »

I would have joined in, but I couldn't expand on your points Nar xD

Maybe a new NAR AI would revitalise normal DSL if you had the time. Team fez could do with an update.

ty4er · « **Reply #1344 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:22:16 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on November 30, 2011, 02:38:47 PM

Maybe I should post a new bot...

Quote from: martymidget on November 30, 2011, 03:57:51 PM

new NAR AI

yesssssssssssssssssss

And DSL realism/effecient is just stock but only stacking weapons slightly and thats it.
Weapons seem pretty much ruled out from the 'realism' rule tbh

Naryar · « **Reply #1345 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:55:33 PM »

New NAR AI ? Hmm... Yeah, alright. I'll do that.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #1346 on:** November 30, 2011, 05:33:07 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on November 30, 2011, 02:38:47 PM

Where do you see a problem ? Exactly as it did for stock between 2003 and a few years ago (where stock stopped evolving a lot), natural building evolution towards more refined, efficient designs in DSL is a given.

The problem is that DSL strived for increased realism upon conception and release. Eventually it became about efficiency at all costs, virtually abandoning the concept of realism all together.

Meganerdbomb · « **Reply #1347 on:** November 30, 2011, 05:36:57 PM »

Tis true that RA2 is inherently unrealistic, and yet DSL has had this realistic rule since creation, based mostly on the idea that it was originally designed to be a more true to life version of RA2. It has peaked in efficiency much faster than stock because even now, DSL bots don't really make use of glitches. New glitches kept being discovered for stock that pushed efficiency just a little farther. Snapper loading/axle loading did not exist back when I left the forums.
Anyway your bots are actually pretty cool, you should like post another one or something.

NFX · « **Reply #1348 on:** November 30, 2011, 05:43:14 PM »

Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on November 30, 2011, 05:33:07 PM

Quote from: Naryar on November 30, 2011, 02:38:47 PM
Where do you see a problem ? Exactly as it did for stock between 2003 and a few years ago (where stock stopped evolving a lot), natural building evolution towards more refined, efficient designs in DSL is a given.

The problem is that DSL strived for increased realism upon conception and release. Eventually it became about efficiency at all costs, virtually abandoning the concept of realism all together.

That problem is never going to be solved by bringing out a new mod, or anything like that. The crux of the problem lies deep within the mechanics of RA2, and as long as the .exe file remains untapped, it's always going to swing more towards the side of efficiency because of the way damage is calculated, and because people will naturally want to win. The recent uptrend of "IRL" building seems to be solving this problem, and bringing DSL back to the way it was intended to be upon release, but there are still a few people who edge towards efficiency a bit much for my liking in that aspect.

martymidget · « **Reply #1349 on:** November 30, 2011, 05:52:26 PM »

The easiest way, for the time being, is to limit the weapon weight and/or number of weapons per weightclass and bot type for IRL as was suggested in the BB5 thread, and leave the efficiency builders the way they are.

Naryar · « **Reply #1350 on:** December 03, 2011, 09:10:28 AM »

MIGHTY NARYAR'S FIERY WRATH. 5mm Steel, 10 ants, 6 large CO2's and you can see the rest.

Was mostly built for the rule of cool, as you can see, and for originality against better wedges. While i probably will be outwedged by damn near everyone with a wedge, i don't fear it. Now it needs a cool skin.

Pwnator · « **Reply #1351 on:** December 03, 2011, 09:29:08 AM »

BEST UNDERSIDE IS TROLL UNDERSIDE

Naryar · « **Reply #1352 on:** December 03, 2011, 09:47:42 AM »

You mean I should add a trollface to the bottom plate skin ?

That's a good idea actually.

Pwnator · « **Reply #1353 on:** December 03, 2011, 10:01:53 AM »

I would really like to see some fragile flipper get owned only by that underside.

Badnik96 · « **Reply #1354 on:** December 03, 2011, 10:03:32 AM »

lol

Blade Ace sees some nice wheels to knock off...

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #1355 on:** December 03, 2011, 10:21:01 AM »

Since you got weight to spare, how about a row on Beater bars along the front lip of the bot to protect the chassis some? if you line it up just right it shouldn't detract from the overall coolness of the bot. Or perhaps a perfectly aligned storm2 skirt?

Naryar · « **Reply #1356 on:** December 03, 2011, 10:24:28 AM »

Well I would add moar weapons, but I think I have enough weapons already for a bot supposed to fight into Battlebots 5.

The problem is that the storm 2 skirt is blue. It'll just ruin the red/black/grey color scheme I intend to give to it.

And yes, the wheels are slightly exposed. Now for the MW...

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #1357 on:** December 03, 2011, 03:34:57 PM »

I don't like the spike strips floating out to the sides. But otherwise looks great.

Naryar · « **Reply #1358 on:** December 11, 2011, 07:31:18 AM »

Why is my showcase in the secon page, and not SHINING as a paragon of what is RIGHT in bot building at first page ? Lemme fix that.

Sooo 6 ants, 5mm plastic, NPC fasts, no need for insides really. Felt like slightly ripping off somebody.

Pwnator · « **Reply #1359 on:** December 11, 2011, 07:34:09 AM »

Is it better than that sawed version? :P