Author Topic: Naryar's DSL showcase - Oldschool DSL-S with 2.2  (Read 447438 times)

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1000 on: September 02, 2010, 10:54:36 AM »
What reference ? Memento Mori is some old latin saying that means "Remember... you will die"

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1001 on: September 02, 2010, 11:16:46 AM »
In the opening of Persona 3, those words appear on the screen and the plot is sorta based around those words.


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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1002 on: September 02, 2010, 11:48:22 AM »
I prefer beater bar or skirt hinge over extenders.

Wammers aren't particularly good against other wedge or SnS.  It's advantage is against VS.  With poly extender though you become at risk of losing to VS.  You don't want cash cow to occasionally break your extender right?

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1003 on: September 02, 2010, 12:59:45 PM »
Wammers aren't particularly good against other wedge or SnS.  It's advantage is against VS.

Care to explain ? I do believe and claim boldly that wammers can be good against anything if well-built enough.

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1004 on: September 02, 2010, 01:33:26 PM »
Wammers aren't particularly good against other wedge or SnS.  It's advantage is against VS.

Care to explain ? I do believe and claim boldly that wammers can be good against anything if well-built enough.
I personally avoid the "well-built enough." mentality, because that automatically imply not fighting someone at my skill level.  Besides, how exactly do you out-efficient The Ounce anyway?  Shape advantage and counter is the way to go.

Wammer does not have advantage against other wedges, because win is determine largely by wedge and escape.  Assuming wedges are equal, the result will come down to luck with a slight favor to the bot with higher DPS, leading to less escape chance.  Other factors like self right also help increase that chance, which wammer does not have without using bsg wedges.

For SnS vs wedge, winning is largely dependent on
1.  Rather the wedge gets sweep
2.  How durable is the second wedge
3.  Can the SnS escape after getting pick up

For this wammer, the front is not particularly wide, the second wedge not particularly high in HP, and DPS is not particularly high.  So the only going factor will be how well it traps.  If a SnS escapes the first ram it's pretty much over for the wammer, since it won't have a second chance to pick it up again.  And with low DPS the SnS have an extended time to escape.  This is made worst if all a SnS has to do is flip the wammer to win. Again no advantage here.

Against VS however, a wammer (without extenders) can very easily de-weapon for the win.  Beater bar or skirt hinge allows you to hold on to this advantage without producing any noticeable weakness against Wedge/SnS.

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1005 on: September 02, 2010, 05:53:09 PM »
He's not intending to win his own tournament. :P
Clash Cubes 1 - Grey Matter (Runner-Up)
King of Karnage - Sideshow Freak (Runner-Up, Best Engineered)
Rust In Pieces - Paper Cut 3 (Grand Champion, Most Dangerous Bot)
Wheely Tag Tournament - Ion Thruster (Grand Champion, along with Ounces' DiSemboweLment)
UK vs USA - Dark Striker (Grand Champion)
Rust In Pieces 2 - Claymore (Runner-Up, Favourite Bot)
BBEANS 6 - Infection 4 (Runner-Up)
RA2 Team Championships - Serious Business, Skeksis (Runner-Up, along with Scrappy, S_M, and Badnik)
RA2 Team Championships 2 - The Other Stig (Runner-Up, along with Scrappy, S_M, Badnik, 090901, and R1885)
Replica Wars 3 - Abaddon (Runner-Up, Luckiest Bot)
BroBots - wheebot & yaybot (Runner-Up)
Robo Zone 2 - Dipper (4th place, Survival Champion, & Best Axle Bot)
ARBBC - The Covenant (3rd place, BW Rumble Winner, Most Feared BW)

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1006 on: September 04, 2010, 04:15:56 AM »


3mm Ti, 6 ants - yeah i know 40 razors isn't a lot for a SHW SnS, but i just wanted to see a fast and damaging SHW SnS in NAR AI :P


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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1007 on: September 04, 2010, 04:32:16 AM »
And I thought Hexagram was fast and damaging. XD

Can you make it invertible with Technos?
Clash Cubes 1 - Grey Matter (Runner-Up)
King of Karnage - Sideshow Freak (Runner-Up, Best Engineered)
Rust In Pieces - Paper Cut 3 (Grand Champion, Most Dangerous Bot)
Wheely Tag Tournament - Ion Thruster (Grand Champion, along with Ounces' DiSemboweLment)
UK vs USA - Dark Striker (Grand Champion)
Rust In Pieces 2 - Claymore (Runner-Up, Favourite Bot)
BBEANS 6 - Infection 4 (Runner-Up)
RA2 Team Championships - Serious Business, Skeksis (Runner-Up, along with Scrappy, S_M, and Badnik)
RA2 Team Championships 2 - The Other Stig (Runner-Up, along with Scrappy, S_M, Badnik, 090901, and R1885)
Replica Wars 3 - Abaddon (Runner-Up, Luckiest Bot)
BroBots - wheebot & yaybot (Runner-Up)
Robo Zone 2 - Dipper (4th place, Survival Champion, & Best Axle Bot)
ARBBC - The Covenant (3rd place, BW Rumble Winner, Most Feared BW)

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1008 on: September 04, 2010, 04:54:07 AM »
Hexagram has hammers... RAZORS have more DP.

Invertibility with Technos yes, but either it has to be unrealistic (wheels not touching the ground) either i have to put the discs through the eteks. It can either be done with BFE and i'll get crap, either be done with skirts and the weapon system will wobble.

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1009 on: September 04, 2010, 01:24:16 PM »
Looks very impressive. If the chassis is cubed, you could have entered it inCC2. Good job.

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1010 on: September 05, 2010, 04:37:39 AM »
If the chassis is cubed, you could have entered it inCC2. Good job.

I don't time travel.

Anyways ! The Troll !



4WD NPC fasts, 5mm plastic. Yes, i know, 5mm plastic is fail on such a design but i wanted to keep the SCv3 design... heck, i even imported the whole chassis from SC3 :P

Probably going to make it 2WD and wedgy because of GTGRBAW (Going To Get Raped By A Wedge) sickness

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1011 on: September 05, 2010, 08:29:18 AM »
That looks.... n00by
I built that big robot on that TV show that time


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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1012 on: September 05, 2010, 09:01:32 AM »
its because DSL has tiny little batts instead of ones that are the size of an AW like stock.. there is nothing to fill space :P

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1013 on: September 05, 2010, 09:34:16 AM »
Naryar is the only person who looks at a crawler and tells the builder to add a wedge.
Put this onto your signature if you were part of this crappy fad in '03.

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1014 on: September 05, 2010, 10:02:25 AM »
Naryar is the only person who looks at a crawler and tells the builder to add a wedge.

I'm surprised he doesn't tell people to add wedges to SnS-ers.   :gawe:

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1015 on: September 05, 2010, 10:30:21 AM »
I tried that some time ago.. the wedge 'floated' so was always facing forward while the robot span.. didnt work to well though

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1016 on: September 05, 2010, 11:17:42 AM »
Naryar is the only person who looks at a crawler and tells the builder to add a wedge.
Naryar is the only person who looks at a crawler and tells the builder to add a wedge.

I'm surprised he doesn't tell people to add wedges to SnS-ers.   :gawe:

Are both of you idiots ? That's a DRUM ! Not a crawler, not even a half-crawler !

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1017 on: September 05, 2010, 11:22:05 AM »
That IN STOCK was mainly built to attack the weapons and tops of popups and gut rippers.
Put this onto your signature if you were part of this crappy fad in '03.

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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1018 on: September 05, 2010, 11:24:15 AM »

Are both of you idiots ? That's a DRUM ! Not a crawler, not even a half-crawler !

M-O-O-N.  That spells crawler.



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Re: Naryar's DSL Work
« Reply #1019 on: September 05, 2010, 11:28:27 AM »
Jack are you drunk ? You are making no sense at all !

That IN STOCK was mainly built to attack the weapons and tops of popups and gut rippers.

Hmm. Valid point. I might make it a half-crawler then, but 2WD because 4WD has no defense.